Incentive for 3600CP?! Endgame Reward Collections!

King_Jude

3600 Mega Reward Collections!

• Currently there is no incentive for any player to reach 3600, and other than player's being star struck when a player meet's another player who's reached 3600, the game developers have done nothing to reward, and appreciate the player's who have reached 3600. This has to change, would love to see something along the lines of what another MMORPG has done such as Runescape. Player's should be awarded when reaching that huge milestone.
  
• With these incentives, more player's would be more inclined on the attempt for the grind which could help fuel the market for the resources to make it, and ignite the spirit's of the player's who didn't see the worth of meeting such a milestone as a realistic goal.
  
• In addition, there should be high scores implemented into the game to showcase the player's who've reached 3600, and the ones are are close.
  
• The types of rewards the player's who've reached 3600cp should get is a collection of sorts such as what I've listed below exclusively to only the player's who've reached 3600 that stands apart from any reward in the game.

1. 3600CP Notable Home
2. 3600CP Housing Collectable furnishing
3. 3600CP Mount
4. 3600CP None-Combat Pet
5. 3600CP Costume
6. 3600CP Hat
7. 3600CP Skin
8. 3600CP Body/Face Markings
9. 3600CP Custom Companion (Create your own companion as you would your own character.)
10. 3600CP Customized Action
11. 3600CP Emote
12. 3600CP Momento
13. 3600CP Armor/Weapon Style
14. 3600CP Minor/Major Adornments
15. 3600CP Polymorph
16. 3600CP Personality
17. 3600CP Facial Hair (New Glowing Eyes Effect)
18. New Champion Slot-able Slots
19. 3600CP Appearance Slot Cape
    

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Dragonnord

I don't agree. Reaching 3600 CPs means nothing. It can even be achievable by getting shady gold to buy and do writs, and so you can get to 3600 CPs in a short time.

On the opposite, there are players that have played for 10 years and haven't reached 3600 CPs yet, even when they have played several more years and hours than some players that pushed to 3600 CPs. And those 10-years players have received nothing in return.

Reaching 3600 CPs doesn't necesarily means something.

Even some rich streamers pushed from 2kX to 3600 CPs in days.
 

King_Jude

Dragonnord wrote: »

I don't agree. Reaching 3600 CPs means nothing. It can even be achievable by getting shady gold to buy and do writs, and so you can get to 3600 in a short time.

On the opposite, there are players that have played for 10 years and haven't reached 3600 CPs, and still have played several more years and hours than some players that pushed the 3600 CPs.

And those 10-years players have received nothing in return.

Reaching 3600 CPs doesn't necesarily means something.

Even some rich streamers pushed from 2kX to 3600 CPs in days.
 

You're not reaching 3600 from 2000 in day's even if you're going the writ route, not only that, that costs a lot more gold than you think it does. Also doing writs does not give you bonus xp when using experience scrolls or potions. It's understandable that you wouldn't want a reason to do that grind, but a lot of us would like a milestone reward rather than nothing at all.

NoTimeToWait

Dragonnord wrote: »

I don't agree. Reaching 3600 CPs means nothing. It can even be achievable by getting shady gold to buy and do writs, and so you can get to 3600 CPs in a short time.

On the opposite, there are players that have played for 10 years and haven't reached 3600 CPs yet, even when they have played several more years and hours than some players that pushed to 3600 CPs. And those 10-years players have received nothing in return.

Reaching 3600 CPs doesn't necesarily means something.

Even some rich streamers pushed from 2kX to 3600 CPs in days.
 

I wouldn't mind if there was a huge reward for 3600 CP. If anything, I would rather suggest not having a single reward but a system of rewards like for the 1-50 lvls, but for CP, something every 100 CP. So that all that is listed in the OP would be a gradual reward while you are leveling from 0 to 3600 CP

King_Jude

NoTimeToWait wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

I don't agree. Reaching 3600 CPs means nothing. It can even be achievable by getting shady gold to buy and do writs, and so you can get to 3600 CPs in a short time.

On the opposite, there are players that have played for 10 years and haven't reached 3600 CPs yet, even when they have played several more years and hours than some players that pushed to 3600 CPs. And those 10-years players have received nothing in return.

Reaching 3600 CPs doesn't necesarily means something.

Even some rich streamers pushed from 2kX to 3600 CPs in days.
 

I wouldn't mind if there was a huge reward for 3600 CP. If anything, I would rather suggest not having a single reward but a system of rewards like for the 1-50 lvls, but for CP, something every 100 CP. So that all that is listed in the OP would be a gradual reward while you are leveling from 0 to 3600 CP

I would love to see milestone rewards along the way until player's reach the grand milestone.

moo_2021

furnishing: 10 meter tall statue of the player's character who reached 3600CP first.

Dragonnord

King_*** wrote: »

You're not reaching 3600 from 2000 in day's even if you're going the writ route, not only that, that costs a lot more gold than you think it does.

I'm telling you some streamers did it. I was there at those times.


 

Drammanoth

I'd defnitely like to have some form of acknowledgement that one has attained CP 3,6k. It is time-consuming, but one one has done this, there ought to be SOMETHING, a quest, a quest chain to get some of the OP's ideas.

GrizzlyTank

A party hat

Nothing more, nothing less.

King_Jude

Dragonnord wrote: »

King_*** wrote: »

You're not reaching 3600 from 2000 in day's even if you're going the writ route, not only that, that costs a lot more gold than you think it does.

I'm telling you some streamers did it. I was there at those times.


 

You do realized that he farmed in blackrose prison, then finished with the writs to showcase getting 3600 as part of a max level party right? In that video, it even shows him in blackrose prison grinding... Lol I believe you're proving the point by saying 3600 means nothing, which was the entire point of the post, which is we it needs to be incentivized.

So let me break it down for you bro...
CP10-3600 = 2,207,742,663XP
Let's say outside of an event, your xp rate in blackrose prison is 9.5m an hour. That would be 232.39 hours of grinding.
Let's say during an event, your xp is 11.3m xp an hour within blackrose prison, then it would take 195.37 hours of grinding.

These numbers are real, you can look up a video created by The_Forseti on youtube called "nBRP 11.3M+/9M+ XP per hour (post Plaguebreak nerf)" which shows us demonstrating the correct process of how to grind nbrp for CP.

I'll let you calculate the cost of 150% EXP pots on PC to see how much that runs you an hour. These pots only last 30 mins regularly, and perhaps about 1h 5mins with the correct setup. You should be able to find that it's going to cost more than 50m starting from CP10. lol

Also what he did is common on RuneScape, you grind all the way, then finished the grind somewhere else where you don't have to do combat, and finish where you want near a town or place to showcase the milestone.

Dragonnord

King_*** wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

King_*** wrote: »

You're not reaching 3600 from 2000 in day's even if you're going the writ route, not only that, that costs a lot more gold than you think it does.

I'm telling you some streamers did it. I was there at those times.


 

You do realized that he farmed in blackrose prison, then finished with the writs to showcase getting 3600 as part of a max level party right? In that video, it even shows him in blackrose prison grinding... Lol I believe you're proving the point by saying 3600 means nothing, which was the entire point of the post, which is we it needs to be incentivized.

So let me break it down for you bro...
CP10-3600 = 2,207,742,663XP
Let's say outside of an event, your xp rate in blackrose prison is 9.5m an hour. That would be 232.39 hours of grinding.
Let's say during an event, your xp is 11.3m xp an hour within blackrose prison, then it would take 195.37 hours of grinding.

These numbers are real, you can look up a video created by The_Forseti on youtube called "nBRP 11.3M+/9M+ XP per hour (post Plaguebreak nerf)" which shows us demonstrating the correct process of how to grind nbrp for CP.

I'll let you calculate the cost of 150% EXP pots on PC to see how much that runs you an hour. These pots only last 30 mins regularly, and perhaps about 1h 5mins with the correct setup. You should be able to find that it's going to cost more than 50m starting from CP10. lol

So? vBRP, Skyreach, writs, 150% scrolls, whatever. 2300 to 3600 CPs in 10 days. That's the thing.

And that's why reaching 3600 CPs means nothing. A lot more is playing for 10 years.
 

Sarannah

Though I would like to see certain rewards for certain CP amounts, I do not feel 3600 should be the maximum. CP's should go into the 100.000's, maybe even millions, before granting any rewards at certain levels.

CP's stopping at 3600 is a flaw in the game, it needs to feel endless. Because otherwise, why play?!? We always need to be able to improve, and MMO's are about endlessness and grinding.

PS: And ZOS would sell more exp scrolls if CP's weren't capped at 3600.

King_Jude

Dragonnord wrote: »

King_*** wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

King_*** wrote: »

You're not reaching 3600 from 2000 in day's even if you're going the writ route, not only that, that costs a lot more gold than you think it does.

I'm telling you some streamers did it. I was there at those times.


 

You do realized that he farmed in blackrose prison, then finished with the writs to showcase getting 3600 as part of a max level party right? In that video, it even shows him in blackrose prison grinding... Lol I believe you're proving the point by saying 3600 means nothing, which was the entire point of the post, which is we it needs to be incentivized.

So let me break it down for you bro...
CP10-3600 = 2,207,742,663XP
Let's say outside of an event, your xp rate in blackrose prison is 9.5m an hour. That would be 232.39 hours of grinding.
Let's say during an event, your xp is 11.3m xp an hour within blackrose prison, then it would take 195.37 hours of grinding.

These numbers are real, you can look up a video created by The_Forseti on youtube called "nBRP 11.3M+/9M+ XP per hour (post Plaguebreak nerf)" which shows us demonstrating the correct process of how to grind nbrp for CP.

I'll let you calculate the cost of 150% EXP pots on PC to see how much that runs you an hour. These pots only last 30 mins regularly, and perhaps about 1h 5mins with the correct setup. You should be able to find that it's going to cost more than 50m starting from CP10. lol

So? vBRP, Skyreach, writs, 150% scrolls, whatever. 2300 to 3600 CPs in 10 days. That's the thing.

And that's why reaching 3600 CPs means nothing. A lot more is playing for 10 years.
 

What game do you know where a player get's to the max level without grinding consistently for it? No player in any game has ever reached maxed level from casually playing without grinding for it. That in itself is a ridiculous notion...

Necrotech_Master

the only thing i would expect from hitting cp 3600 is being able to max out the entire CP tree, so then you would never have pay to redistribute points

but its already been calculated out that it is mathematically impossible to completely fill out every node in the entire cp tree at 3600 with the current trees the way they are

the current cp requirement to max out every tree:
green: 1473 cp
blue: 2070 cp
red: 1742 cp

you would have to get 5285 cp (technically speaking in order to max it out, since its a rotation on the pts you would need 2070x3 or 6210 cp because blue is the highest cost) in order to completely max out the current cp to not have to redistribute and just be able to hot swap the slottable nodes, a lot of this problem came to be when they added all the "sub nodes" for the red and blue trees, which drastically increased the max cp required to fill out everything

when the cp2.0 first happened, 3600 could actually max everything out and be able to reslot anything without incurring a cost, but since they have actually added more cp nodes over time, the cp requirement to max everything has gone up so significantly that it is functionally impossible to max out the cp trees now

Dragonnord

King_*** wrote: »

What game do you know where a player get's to the max level without grinding consistently for it?

New World, Diablo (any), Wolcen, Last Epoch, and a huge amount of other games that don't have 50 levels plus 3600 extra levels like TESO.

In those games you don't need to push nor grind levels if you don't want, you just get to level 60, 65, 100 in days or weeks, by just playing regularly.
 

EF321

Am CP3600. There is no need in any of that.

King_*** wrote: »

if you're going the writ route, not only that, that costs a lot more gold than you think it does.

I earned a lot of gold in the process, not spent.

King_*** wrote: »

Also doing writs does not give you bonus xp when using experience scrolls or potions.

It does...

Soarora

We have enough grinds in this game. Grinding to 3600 wouldn’t be fun.

WiseSky

It would be good to have a reward at 3600 CP, but make it too good and other will be unhappy, make it not good enough and those who reached it will whine...

As for others they will say its not worth the grind

AcadianPaladin

As players get up in CP, I'd like to see the ability gained to gradually increase the number of green slottable skills from 4 to 8. That would be a nice quality of life reward for high level players without any power creep. Something like increasing to 5 slots at 1800 CP, 6 at 2400, 7 at 3000 and 8 at 3600.

Hapexamendios

Anything cosmetic I don't really care, but new Champion slots? No, just no.

TaSheen

AcadianPaladin wrote: »

As players get up in CP, I'd like to see the ability gained to gradually increase the number of green slottable skills from 4 to 8. That would be a nice quality of life reward for high level players without any power creep. Something like increasing to 5 slots at 1800 CP, 6 at 2400, 7 at 3000 and 8 at 3600.

Now THAT would be a reward!

King_Jude

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

the only thing i would expect from hitting cp 3600 is being able to max out the entire CP tree, so then you would never have pay to redistribute points

but its already been calculated out that it is mathematically impossible to completely fill out every node in the entire cp tree at 3600 with the current trees the way they are

the current cp requirement to max out every tree:
green: 1473 cp
blue: 2070 cp
red: 1742 cp

you would have to get 5285 cp (technically speaking in order to max it out, since its a rotation on the pts you would need 2070x3 or 6210 cp because blue is the highest cost) in order to completely max out the current cp to not have to redistribute and just be able to hot swap the slottable nodes, a lot of this problem came to be when they added all the "sub nodes" for the red and blue trees, which drastically increased the max cp required to fill out everything

when the cp2.0 first happened, 3600 could actually max everything out and be able to reslot anything without incurring a cost, but since they have actually added more cp nodes over time, the cp requirement to max everything has gone up so significantly that it is functionally impossible to max out the cp trees now

Right, me and some of my other 3600 buddies have talked about this. We wish they would raise the cap so that we could max it all out.

King_Jude

Dragonnord wrote: »

King_*** wrote: »

What game do you know where a player get's to the max level without grinding consistently for it?

New World, Diablo (any), Wolcen, Last Epoch, and a huge amount of other games that don't have 50 levels plus 3600 extra levels like TESO.

In those games you don't need to push nor grind levels if you don't want, you just get to level 60, 65, 100 in days or weeks, by just playing regularly.
 

Diablo is literally grinding, you're playing through the game over and over again, and that's how you level in that game. There really isn't too much to it tbh. So that really doesn't prove a point. Give examples of MMORPG's. Like Runescape, DeicideOnline, Tibia, where there's an actual grind factor to it.

King_Jude

EF321 wrote: »

Am CP3600. There is no need in any of that.

King_*** wrote: »

if you're going the writ route, not only that, that costs a lot more gold than you think it does.

I earned a lot of gold in the process, not spent.

King_*** wrote: »

Also doing writs does not give you bonus xp when using experience scrolls or potions.

It does...

It actually doesn't if you read it, it's only factoring xp gained through combat.

King_Jude

Soarora wrote: »

We have enough grinds in this game. Grinding to 3600 wouldn’t be fun.

That's the thing, you don't have to do it, but give a reward to the player's that actually did it, or want to do it.

King_Jude

WiseSky wrote: »

It would be good to have a reward at 3600 CP, but make it too good and other will be unhappy, make it not good enough and those who reached it will whine...

As for others they will say its not worth the grind

That's fine, other games already do it, the player base of this game can handle it.

King_Jude

AcadianPaladin wrote: »

As players get up in CP, I'd like to see the ability gained to gradually increase the number of green slottable skills from 4 to 8. That would be a nice quality of life reward for high level players without any power creep. Something like increasing to 5 slots at 1800 CP, 6 at 2400, 7 at 3000 and 8 at 3600.

I agree with this notion.

bmnoble

Don't know about an incentive, don't think it should be encouraged or feel like it is somehow needed to reach 3600.

Just be nice to have something to use all those hundreds of unused champion points in each of the 3 trees on even before you reach 3600.

And I am not just talking about "oh you have the other options ready to go for you to swap to at any time" but something that is in actual use, either something that is passive or active, doesn't need to be something combat related either, could be something as simple as boosting the drop rates for non mythic leads, or stuff that is just bound to your account etc...

TaSheen

Y'know, you can quote multiple posts into the reply field and consolidate the replies....

King_Jude

bmnoble wrote: »

Don't know about an incentive, don't think it should be encouraged or feel like it is somehow needed to reach 3600.

Just be nice to have something to use all those hundreds of unused champion points in each of the 3 trees on even before you reach 3600.

And I am not just talking about "oh you have the other options ready to go for you to swap to at any time" but something that is in actual use, either something that is passive or active, doesn't need to be something combat related either, could be something as simple as boosting the drop rates for non mythic leads, or stuff that is just bound to your account etc...

I feel like what I listed was fine because it wouldn't be listed as an achievement to where you feel like you have to do it in order to 100% the game, you would just have it as an option if you want those extra cosmetics that would be unique and rare to see.

Kalle_Demos

The reward for reaching max CP was, once upon a time, power. The CP update did away with that. And then promptly slashed even those values in half. For reasons. Something that would give players an incentive is adding more slots to the CP tree and having those slots be unlocked by CP progress. Unfortunately, the Nerf Hammer is the favored tool to solve the game's every problem. Even when uncalled for. I doubt even the illusion of greater power for players will be entertained.