Apocryphal Gate - most useless spell of the Arcanist

Nemethon

Today I tried again to find a use for the Apocryphal Gate. I love the Arcanist class, and most of the spells are good to very good. But Apocryphal Gate? I like the teleport spells of other classes, but the arcanist version is of no use at all.

The range is ridiculous. Every small obstacle prevents the spell from working. Any unevenness on the floor prevents the spell from working. Useless in PvP. Useless in PvE. There are other, better things you can put in the slot.

I would really like to use this ability. I like the graphic effect. But this spell really needs to be reworked.

Soarora

There is a use for it, I’ve seen MTs in SE HM use it to place Yas’ bombs away from group. That said, yeah, the targetting could use some help.

CameraBeardThePirate

The targeting on this makes it almost impossible to use in any sort of PvP. A mobility tool should not have a delay on it - it defeats the purpose of using it in the first place.

People have complained tons about this ability - I'd just give up on ZOS making any changes to it at this point if I were you.

IncultaWolf

The most overhyped ability from the arcanist gameplay trailers! Remember when everyone thought this one ability would completely break Cyrodiil?

Veinblood1965

Agreed, the graphics are superb. There is some limited use for it in Imperial City to get to up on top of buildings and arches.

sharquez

Gosh I wish this skill wasn't so clunky. Why are the rules for teleporting and stuff so difficult to work with? it needs serious QOL work.

OtarTheMad

I’ve used it in PvP to bypass heavy defenses at doors or downed walls or hallways at bridges. I’m kind of surprised I haven’t seen more of this but I don’t play that much lately.

It has uses but is a tad clunky and a little buggy.

CameraBeardThePirate

OtarTheMad wrote: »

I’ve used it in PvP to bypass heavy defenses at doors or downed walls or hallways at bridges. I’m kind of surprised I haven’t seen more of this but I don’t play that much lately.

It has uses but is a tad clunky and a little buggy.

This is probably the only good use for it, but why not just slot Mist Form instead and have an even better mobility tool in every other scenario? Or just slot siege shield and help everyone around you get through a breach?

It definitely has uses (I've used it in IC to help keep up with Sorc teammates in a small man), it's just very mediocre feeling.

OtarTheMad

CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »

OtarTheMad wrote: »

I’ve used it in PvP to bypass heavy defenses at doors or downed walls or hallways at bridges. I’m kind of surprised I haven’t seen more of this but I don’t play that much lately.

It has uses but is a tad clunky and a little buggy.

This is probably the only good use for it, but why not just slot Mist Form instead and have an even better mobility tool in every other scenario? Or just slot siege shield and help everyone around you get through a breach?

It definitely has uses (I've used it in IC to help keep up with Sorc teammates in a small man), it's just very mediocre feeling.

Well I’m not a vamp, unpopular I know and I typically don’t run in huge groups, either a group of 2-5 or solo so don’t use siege shield much.

It definitely could be improved though. If it was faster it’d be so great to use this to dodge and counter people.

Nemethon

CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »

The targeting on this makes it almost impossible to use in any sort of PvP. A mobility tool should not have a delay on it - it defeats the purpose of using it in the first place.

People have complained tons about this ability - I'd just give up on ZOS making any changes to it at this point if I were you.

We have to remind them, and they will read statistics too. If almost no one using it, I'm sure it get some rework. Just hope we can push it a little up the list.

As I said, every other teleport of other classes works fine. But the arcanist version, very bad. In PvP you don't have the time to press the button multiple times in hope it works. If you sprint, you are even faster than using this teleport. And sprint is 100% reliable.

RedFireDisco

It's such a ridiculously useless skill. Mist form is cheaper, instant, gives major evasion as well and a 300 weapon damage bonus.

Gate is clunky, slow, and costs a fortune and there's no class bonus for even slotting it making mist form miles better.

It needs some serious treatment.

MashmalloMan

Nemethon wrote: »

CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »

The targeting on this makes it almost impossible to use in any sort of PvP. A mobility tool should not have a delay on it - it defeats the purpose of using it in the first place.

People have complained tons about this ability - I'd just give up on ZOS making any changes to it at this point if I were you.

We have to remind them, and they will read statistics too. If almost no one using it, I'm sure it get some rework. Just hope we can push it a little up the list.

It took them 10 years to rework Sorc's Encase and Mine morphs. Terribly niche and underused abilities.

Good luck is all I have to say.

moderatelyfatman

Nemethon wrote: »

Today I tried again to find a use for the Apocryphal Gate. I love the Arcanist class, and most of the spells are good to very good. But Apocryphal Gate? I like the teleport spells of other classes, but the arcanist version is of no use at all.

The range is ridiculous. Every small obstacle prevents the spell from working. Any unevenness on the floor prevents the spell from working. Useless in PvP. Useless in PvE. There are other, better things you can put in the slot.

I would really like to use this ability. I like the graphic effect. But this spell really needs to be reworked.

Only one useless skill? Come back when you have at least 5 and you can hang around with the rest of us cool kids!

Bastekk

Nemethon wrote: »

Today I tried again to find a use for the Apocryphal Gate. I love the Arcanist class, and most of the spells are good to very good. But Apocryphal Gate? I like the teleport spells of other classes, but the arcanist version is of no use at all.

The range is ridiculous. Every small obstacle prevents the spell from working. Any unevenness on the floor prevents the spell from working. Useless in PvP. Useless in PvE. There are other, better things you can put in the slot.

I would really like to use this ability. I like the graphic effect. But this spell really needs to be reworked.

ussles? xD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfV6HuYM_rg

AJTC5000

From a PvE perspective it has grown on me. Mostly just use it to run around places faster. Some dungeons it's actually quite nice to use (used it liberally in Oathsworn Pit - secret bosses 2 and 3, and the final boss in particular). Being able to ping in one direction, grab something and ping back within one skill cost is nice.

I agree though, it is very clunky to use compared to something like Streak, or Mist Form.