How do you feel about classes and other skilllines?

ThelerisTelvanni

Today I’d like to know how you all feel about our class and skillline system.

Please understand that this is not purely about skills and spells alone, but also about lore and immersion in the world. I personally have never played a Nord, Orc or Redguard since I am missing a non magical warrior class.

It is also about exploration! I personally loved to travel the world and collect spells from skillbooks and trainers. It was always nice to visit a mages guild guildhall or a magic shop and see what new spells they might have.

As someone that has played TES 3-5, I personally wish for some more of the old skilllines to return. Like the schools of magic and the speech craft skilllines, as well some new skilllines like a spear/halberd.

Some of the classes also have issues for me. I personally feel the Arcanist might have been some good black book skilllines for everyone. So we have a deadric cultist class for one specific prince. Of cause you can argue that is fine but on the other hand, we have something basic like a warrior class, that is still missing.

For example we had the following classes in TES4 Oblivion:

• Acrobat
• Agent
• Archer
• Assassin
• Barbarian
• Bard
• Battlemage
• Crusader
• Healer
• Knight
• Mage
• Monk
• Nightblade
• Pilgrim
• Rogue
• Scout
• Sorcerer
• Spellsword
• Thief
• Warrior
• Wichthunter

In comparison in TESO we have:

• Dragonknight
• Necromancer
• Nightblade
• Sorcerer
• Templar
• Arcanist
• Warden

Some of the new ones from TESO are rather specific. Also in TES4 whatever your class was, it was a starting point and you always had access to all skill lines and spells, where TESO has a lot of exclusives. The TES4 classes had however the problem with the attributes, so in TES5 Skyrim classes with all the restrictions were gone. That freedom was nice too.

So how do you guys feel about this topic?

Mesite

To me lore implications do not matter and as a MMORPG player it is totally fine as it is! I however enjoy the freedom TESO offers with the additional skilllines.

I played Skyrim a few times but mostly ended up developing the same skills every time. I like classes. More classes would be nice. Fewer nerfs would be better.

Classes mean you just pick one and you're good to go. The Oblivion game (and original Morrowind) had individual skills and it was annoying to level if you wanted high stats.

I don't use loads of non-class skills. In the past I levelled the skills up eg psijic, but didn't use them.

I'm planning to play less so will need to play more efficiently so haven't time for more skill lines.

Katzenzunge

To be honest as a MMORPG player I sometimes miss the good old boundary's of confined classes.

I don't wanna bet locked in too much again like in other games, but I do admit sometimes I miss the "exclusivity" of a class? Like, XY can do Z, and you actually need B from class A etc.

And the little "Oh, Hiiii, another *Class*!" when meeting someone maining the same class.

I do enjoy the flexibility and ability to change my skillsets, loadout and entire "way of playing", but yeah. Maybe it's only rose colored glasses, but I do sometimes miss the confined classes.

chessalavakia_ESO

I think we can improve TESO’s class and skill system however the above mentioned are not exactly what I have in mind. (Please write a comment!)

I think for an MMO you likely need some degree of limitation on what players can do but, I think ESO's classes tend to be a bit too specific in their focus and they also lean a bit too much towards magic.

Magic is so common in ESO that it feels mundane rather than special like in other titles.

I find that the less magical options in ESO tend to end up feeling a bit limited or ineffective.

ItsGlaive

Honestly? I think the game should have been classless, depending instead on your choice of weapons and skill lines to determine your loadout.

ThelerisTelvanni

As an oldschool TES player I miss a lot of the old classes and the skilllines for the schools of magic as well as others. It is about lore but also about player freedom, since I liked how unrestricted the older TES classsystems were. So please give us that freedom! Let us collect spells and skills in the world. Let the skilllines the requirements and passive perks.

@ZOS_Kevin I had an error message when I created this poll and as I just noticed, it seems like it created the poll 2 times. Is there a way to merge them? Having it twice on the forum seems a little unpractical.

Mesite

To me lore implications do not matter and as a MMORPG player it is totally fine as it is! I however enjoy the freedom TESO offers with the additional skilllines.

I was so confused when I found the other poll and thought my post hadn't worked.

Enemy-of-Coldharbour

I personally would like to see classes removed completely, and just have a tree of skill lines to choose from. We could mix-and-match as we see fit for a true custom building experience.

kaushad

I think we can improve TESO’s class and skill system however the above mentioned are not exactly what I have in mind. (Please write a comment!)

ESO's classes are one of most interesting takes TES has had on spellcasting. Other skills and classes could be fine, but I want to see this developed.

LunaFlora

previous Elder Scrolls did not have classes like in ESO, they were just a few proficiencies and skills any character could use.

for the future i really want more skill lines instead of classes.
if we get more classes i do hope we get class change too or another way to use other classes' skills with existing characters.


i would really like a skill line with more combat pets.
extra skills for existing classes would also be awesome like a Spriggan for Warden and a Watcher for Arcanist (which could give a buff like Major Prophecy).

one handed skill line would be awesome as well! it could have magic in the off-hand like the altmer hero from the cinematic trailers!