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CP3600 Craze: Congratulations or Exploit?

Aerin
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In the last 10 to 20 days, I've seen A LOT of players with CP3600. I really don't know if I should say congratulations or ask them about the new EXP bug. Anyway, congratulations for CP3600.
  • Gray_howling_parrot
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    Aerin wrote: »
    In the last 10 to 20 days, I've seen A LOT of players with CP3600. I really don't know if I should say congratulations or ask them about the new EXP bug. Anyway, congratulations for CP3600.

    It's not an exploit. You can use sealed crafting writs with a double xp pot during double xp events and grind a ton of CP OR grind mobs in nBRP. No exp bug lol
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  • Aerin
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    Aerin wrote: »
    In the last 10 to 20 days, I've seen A LOT of players with CP3600. I really don't know if I should say congratulations or ask them about the new EXP bug. Anyway, congratulations for CP3600.

    It's not an exploit. You can use sealed crafting writs with a double xp pot during double xp events and grind a ton of CP OR grind mobs in nBRP. No exp bug lol

    ofc not!
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    I save my alchemy, Provisning and enchant writs to use or sell during 100% xp events and I guess more people do so.

    With an 150% xp scroll you get insane amount of xp for minimum effort.
  • Daoin
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    the thing is past about cp 400 everyone ingame knows most of the time in groups its best to actually not care about cp because it does not really speak to much about anyone anymore thier cp, sometimes 400cp+ will cheese some content while 3000+ wont clear it. too many factors now to care about cp past a certain stage
    Edited by Daoin on March 10, 2024 3:43PM
  • Reginald_leBlem
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    People sell or give XP grinds to newer players during XP events, get loads of XP.

    There's no real point to being more than 1200, 1) there's no reason to "exploit" CP and 2) I wouldn't care if there was
  • ssewallb14_ESO
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    I think nBRP grind is a bit more accessible with Arc in the game. Also substantially less content/niche content compared to previous years.
  • EnerG
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    I don't think there's ever been an exp "exploit" in the game, just ways to get more exp fully intended by the game.
  • Hapexamendios
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    People have been playing for 10 years.
  • valenwood_vegan
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    The game's been around for a long time, it's inevitable that we'll be seeing more 3600's over time.

    Also might specifically be seeing more lately because some long-time players are coming back for the anniversary stuff / u41 / prep for the anniversary event.
  • TaSheen
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    I don't see how it's anywhere close to an exploit.
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  • JanTanhide
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    Playing the game is now an exploit. /s
  • ArchangelIsraphel
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    What you've described is no where near a "craze". It's just people...playing the game, who have happened to reach max level. Of course there are more. There's more people who are lvl 2000+ these days as well, because they've been playing for years. It used to be rarer, and it isn't any more. Leveling isn't especially difficult in this game, honestly.

    Also, there is a thing in human psychology known as the frequency illusion. Paraphrasing in my own words to keep this post short, it is a form of cognitive bias that causes a person to keep noticing certain ideas, concepts, numbers, or patterns repeatedly after initially recognizing them for the first time.

    Once you see a 3,600, you will keep noticing them, because it is a number considered significant in this game.

    Legends never die
    They're written down in eternity
    But you'll never see the price it costs
    The scars collected all their lives
    When everything's lost, they pick up their hearts and avenge defeat
    Before it all starts, they suffer through harm just to touch a dream
    Oh, pick yourself up, 'cause
    Legends never die
  • dcam86b14_ESO
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    Remember CP does not mean you have skill. Some of those high CP players still can't properly play in BC vet
    Edited by dcam86b14_ESO on March 11, 2024 2:17AM
  • TaSheen
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    Funny.... I don't ever pay any attention to character names, user IDs, or CP.....
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  • Daoin
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    honestly though i have never seen a single game where level up to max level any way you can get there has not been a big part of playing which is why i think there should alteast be some kind of achievment and reward for reaching max cp regardless how we get there
    Edited by Daoin on March 11, 2024 2:33AM
  • TaSheen
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    You know what max level is to me?

    C9 160 - the entire reason this is the best mmo EVER. I will never have to chase ariticial levels and gear again (hated wow for that). Works for me!
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  • Daoin
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    max level in conan is just 50 :) i never played WoW though not sure what that is like. the only notable mmo playtime i have are STO ESO Conan, after this Black Desert pops up at 4 and hours game time lol, im looking forward to finally pinging 3600 but i wont grind for it the other 2 just wanted max level asap
    Edited by Daoin on March 11, 2024 2:43AM
  • ElderSmitter
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    I am CP 3100+ and to be honest i play a ton and think the opposite. I do not see many 3600 CP players very often.
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    I have only been playing for only five years and I don't even play much, at least not anymore because new content seems to be made to drive me away.
    Nevertheless I'm at 3263 CP due to doing as many of my master crafting writs as I can during double experience events while also using XP boosts.

    In my two trading guilds there's only one player who has reached 3600 CP already, even at my 32xx, I am an outlier. There are several players in the 2000+ range, but most players have way less CP.

    So I have certainly not seen a lot of 3600 CP players.

  • CameraBeardThePirate
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    What you've described is no where near a "craze". It's just people...playing the game, who have happened to reach max level. Of course there are more. There's more people who are lvl 2000+ these days as well, because they've been playing for years. It used to be rarer, and it isn't any more. Leveling isn't especially difficult in this game, honestly.

    Also, there is a thing in human psychology known as the frequency illusion. Paraphrasing in my own words to keep this post short, it is a form of cognitive bias that causes a person to keep noticing certain ideas, concepts, numbers, or patterns repeatedly after initially recognizing them for the first time.

    Once you see a 3,600, you will keep noticing them, because it is a number considered significant in this game.

    It's called the Baader-Meinhof phenomenon. You notice something for the first time, and your brain cues you into seeing it more often subconsciously. The "things" you're noticing were always present, but your brain has now identified them and continues to do so with more ease.
  • Aerin
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    Of course, they are all very experienced players. Yesterday, once again, I encountered other player CP3600 in vRG. This player claimed to be a healer for the first time, but was unable to effectively heal, which is understandable. Additionally, he struggled with kiting because he lacked the necessary knowledge. He were also unfamiliar with handling curses and inadvertently caused harm to other players by detonating curses within the group. 5Wipes!

    Obviously, the exploit did not address their CP3600 status because... He achieved CP3600 through PvP, right? Of course! Everything makes sense!
    Edited by Aerin on March 11, 2024 5:57PM
  • Naftal
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    Aerin wrote: »
    Of course, they are all very experienced players. Yesterday, once again, I encountered other player CP3600 in vRG. This player claimed to be a healer for the first time, but was unable to effectively heal, which is understandable. Additionally, he struggled with kiting because he lacked the necessary knowledge. He were also unfamiliar with handling curses and inadvertently caused harm to other players by detonating curses within the group. 5Wipes!

    Obviously, the exploit did not address their CP3600 status because... He achieved CP3600 through PvP, right? Of course! Everything makes sense!

    They achieved their cp3600 through xp farming which doesn't include doing trials or the knowledge how to do them.
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    People sell or give XP grinds to newer players during XP events, get loads of XP.

    There's no real point to being more than 1200, 1) there's no reason to "exploit" CP and 2) I wouldn't care if there was

    Green CP stars. I am 2.5k CP and I still can't get all of those I want :)
  • Aerin
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    Naftal wrote: »
    They achieved their cp3600 through xp farming which doesn't include doing trials or the knowledge how to do them.

    I understand completely.
    They stick to PvP, doing writs, EXP events, and so on... and then they only start learning trials after CP3600. It all makes sense to me.
    But yeah, there are A LOT of CP3600 players these days.

    Congratulations to all!
  • ArchangelIsraphel
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    Aerin wrote: »
    Naftal wrote: »
    They achieved their cp3600 through xp farming which doesn't include doing trials or the knowledge how to do them.

    I understand completely.
    They stick to PvP, doing writs, EXP events, and so on... and then they only start learning trials after CP3600. It all makes sense to me.
    But yeah, there are A LOT of CP3600 players these days.

    Congratulations to all!

    The fact of the matter is, there is so much to do in this game, that it is perfectly feasible for a character to reach 3600 without ever having touched trials or shown interest in them. It is absolutely possible to reach high levels without a deep knowledge of mechanics. Given that multiple characters on the account can accumulate exp through questing and various other easy activities, level 3600 is not exactly an expression of skill. More an expression of time played.

    I am sure there are high level players who have played for years on end without touching trials, simply because it doesn't interest them to do so. Level means nothing when it comes to what actually interests someone.

    Simply put, gaining exp in ESO does not require an excessive amount of what people call skill at the game.

    By the way, PVP has a high learning curve as well to actually be good at it. Trials aren't the end all, be all of skill and knowledge in the game.

    I personally do not look down on high level players who have not yet learned certain mechanics- they have their reasons, and some wish to linger in enjoying a certain playstyle before experimenting with other play styles. This results in a higher level matched with a "Lower skill level" at aspects of the game they have never touched before. They aren't "exploiting" anything, they're just enjoying things their way before moving on to learning new content.
    Legends never die
    They're written down in eternity
    But you'll never see the price it costs
    The scars collected all their lives
    When everything's lost, they pick up their hearts and avenge defeat
    Before it all starts, they suffer through harm just to touch a dream
    Oh, pick yourself up, 'cause
    Legends never die
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