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Seeing DPS Archanists is just....depressing

DigiAngel
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The massive damage they do right now....bleh...make me feel like not even bothering to play any DPS character in group content.
  • DigiAngel
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    Ya what Kite42 said. I have most of my characters duel or tri-purpose so...been tanking and healing more :)
  • Wise_Will
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    Kite42 wrote: »
    I don't want to put words into the OPs mouth, but I think it's the *massive* part of arcanist DPS they're concerned about. Like, their own other-class DPS, which is far weaker in their opinion, makes their character feel worthless by comparison

    Fair enough,

    I cannot play any other class other than Magsorc, Dragonknight Tank and Temp Healer. I have leveled all other classes to 50 and i just dont find them fun to play, i always revert to my standard 3.
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  • DigiAngel
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    Thanks....that's probably it. Next time I go into a trial I'll look for Acanists. That said, I haven't bought Necrom yet. After U35 I wasn't sure I was even going to look at this game again. Maybe I'll get it on sale next time around.
    Edited by DigiAngel on February 8, 2024 4:29PM
  • Pixiepumpkin
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    Arcanists burn through packs of mobs fast, but if you want to really be sick make a Heavy Attack 1 bar oakansoul sorc with two pets.

    I do TONS more damage on him than I do my arcanist.

    Edited by Pixiepumpkin on February 8, 2024 4:46PM
    "𝕰𝖛𝖊𝖓 𝕲𝖔𝖉𝖘 𝖉𝖎𝖘𝖑𝖎𝖐𝖊 𝖙𝖍𝖊 𝖆𝖇𝖘𝖔𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖊, 𝖋𝖔𝖗 𝖎𝖙 𝖘𝖙𝖎𝖓𝖐𝖘 𝖔𝖋 𝖘𝖔𝖒𝖊𝖙𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖌 𝖑𝖆𝖗𝖌𝖊𝖗 𝖙𝖍𝖆𝖓 𝖙𝖍𝖊𝖒𝖘𝖊𝖑𝖛𝖊𝖘." ― Sotha Sil
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  • Pixiepumpkin
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    Quethrosar wrote: »
    Arcanists burn through packs of mobs fast, but if you want to really be sick make a Heavy Attack 1 bar oakansoul sorc with two pets.

    I do TONS more damage on him than I do my arcanist.

    you aren't playing arc right then lol.

    i can parse 113 or something on stam sorc, 90k on heavy attack sorc, 116 on arc.
    a heavy attack sorc will not out dps an arc who knows how to arc.

    I run magicka not stamina, I don't run daggers either. Both are oakensoul builds.

    I can get more done in the world regarding world bosses on my easymode HA sorc than I can on my arcanist. Swapping to heavy armor for tanking kills the arcanist DPS, the sorc pulls ahead.

    Edited by Pixiepumpkin on February 8, 2024 4:55PM
    "𝕰𝖛𝖊𝖓 𝕲𝖔𝖉𝖘 𝖉𝖎𝖘𝖑𝖎𝖐𝖊 𝖙𝖍𝖊 𝖆𝖇𝖘𝖔𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖊, 𝖋𝖔𝖗 𝖎𝖙 𝖘𝖙𝖎𝖓𝖐𝖘 𝖔𝖋 𝖘𝖔𝖒𝖊𝖙𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖌 𝖑𝖆𝖗𝖌𝖊𝖗 𝖙𝖍𝖆𝖓 𝖙𝖍𝖊𝖒𝖘𝖊𝖑𝖛𝖊𝖘." ― Sotha Sil
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  • DigiAngel
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    @Pixiepumpkin I'd love to see a build for that...been looking at an easier time then light attack weaving thanks.
  • Pixiepumpkin
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    DigiAngel wrote: »
    @Pixiepumpkin I'd love to see a build for that...been looking at an easier time then light attack weaving thanks.

    Its pretty simple.
    I think sorcs are best becasue of passives. Not sure, but it works.

    Basically I run
    64 into magicka
    5x Sergeant on the weapons, neck, 1 ring and shoulder (I do this for a reason, but it would be best to run it on chest)
    5x Orders wrath mixed with light and heavy. I bascially run 3 heavy, 3 light, and 1 medium. I do this to "wash" out the negative effects of heavy/light, and for some armor, maintain some penetration/crit. etc.
    1x Oakensoul. I run bloodthirsty, but I think arcane or infused would be fine (I might go back to arcane on all three jewelry)
    1x monster helm to your liking (I use slimecraw)

    I often swap out the body pieces (chest, legs, belt, gloves and boots) for Aetherial Ascension if I am taking on a world boss, I swap out unstable wall for the undaunted inner rage for a taunt. I might swap helms as well (

    The "proper" HA build uses a different set, but when I was testing them I did the best with orders wrath and I like that its craftable so I can mix set weights.

    I then run the volatile familar, twilight matriartch, Daedric Prey, Unstalble wall of Elements, Bound Aegis (you can flex this one, I just like the extra magicka it provides) and I run charged Atronoch. I think you can flex this one as well, I just like keeping sorc abilities on the bar for the extra % to spell damage.

    I run wrathful strikes, fightning finesse, weapons expert, deadly aim for blue CP

    Rotation is Volatile familair, Daedric prey, Wall of Elements HA x 2, Daedric prey, HA x 2 until you refresh wall and monkey (familair). Its pretty easy. I also use the matriarch a lot in trials to off heal, but I dont tell healers, I do it only to take pressure off, but dont want them to slack of.

    I don't think its a perfect, dialed in build. I am sure math experts can tweak it better, but I really enjoy playing it. If I run the pure DPS mode, I generally pull 14 to 15% of the overall DPS in pug trials, even vets. So That is good enough.

    I made an outfit for him I really like. Between that, and his strengh/flexability, I really enjoy playing him.
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/394909/fashion-megathread/p191




    "𝕰𝖛𝖊𝖓 𝕲𝖔𝖉𝖘 𝖉𝖎𝖘𝖑𝖎𝖐𝖊 𝖙𝖍𝖊 𝖆𝖇𝖘𝖔𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖊, 𝖋𝖔𝖗 𝖎𝖙 𝖘𝖙𝖎𝖓𝖐𝖘 𝖔𝖋 𝖘𝖔𝖒𝖊𝖙𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖌 𝖑𝖆𝖗𝖌𝖊𝖗 𝖙𝖍𝖆𝖓 𝖙𝖍𝖊𝖒𝖘𝖊𝖑𝖛𝖊𝖘." ― Sotha Sil
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  • DigiAngel
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    Brilliant...thank you much!
  • Pixiepumpkin
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    DigiAngel wrote: »
    Brilliant...thank you much!

    No issues. PM me if you need a greater breakdown, but its not that complicated and I think has a lot of wiggle room.

    All I know is that when I get 75k crits in a trial, I get a big smile on my face. :D
    "𝕰𝖛𝖊𝖓 𝕲𝖔𝖉𝖘 𝖉𝖎𝖘𝖑𝖎𝖐𝖊 𝖙𝖍𝖊 𝖆𝖇𝖘𝖔𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖊, 𝖋𝖔𝖗 𝖎𝖙 𝖘𝖙𝖎𝖓𝖐𝖘 𝖔𝖋 𝖘𝖔𝖒𝖊𝖙𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖌 𝖑𝖆𝖗𝖌𝖊𝖗 𝖙𝖍𝖆𝖓 𝖙𝖍𝖊𝖒𝖘𝖊𝖑𝖛𝖊𝖘." ― Sotha Sil
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  • Pelanora
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    Yea check out eso logs, the arcanist skills hit MUCH harder than any others, by a lot.
  • ClowdyAllDay
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    aside from the offensive animations which block players paying in first person view, i find them boring. That is i'm playing in a dungeon the other day trying to get my endeavors using weapon skills so i'm spamming my LA and my one weapon skill and then an arcanist comes and lays waste to everything b4 i can hit much. boring! also i had to go find things after dungeon ended to spam my weapon skill on in the wilds to get my endeavor since i couldnt get hardly anything in the dungeon.
  • sarahthes
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    Arcanists burn through packs of mobs fast, but if you want to really be sick make a Heavy Attack 1 bar oakansoul sorc with two pets.

    I do TONS more damage on him than I do my arcanist.

    In my Planesbreaker core the arcanists do 30-90K more aoe damage than the sorc.
  • Pixiepumpkin
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    sarahthes wrote: »
    Arcanists burn through packs of mobs fast, but if you want to really be sick make a Heavy Attack 1 bar oakansoul sorc with two pets.

    I do TONS more damage on him than I do my arcanist.

    In my Planesbreaker core the arcanists do 30-90K more aoe damage than the sorc.

    ya, I did not mean to sugges that sorcs do more, they don't I certainly do not. But I do much harder single target than the arcanist (he is magicka, one bar, oakensoul. same as sorc).
    "𝕰𝖛𝖊𝖓 𝕲𝖔𝖉𝖘 𝖉𝖎𝖘𝖑𝖎𝖐𝖊 𝖙𝖍𝖊 𝖆𝖇𝖘𝖔𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖊, 𝖋𝖔𝖗 𝖎𝖙 𝖘𝖙𝖎𝖓𝖐𝖘 𝖔𝖋 𝖘𝖔𝖒𝖊𝖙𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖌 𝖑𝖆𝖗𝖌𝖊𝖗 𝖙𝖍𝖆𝖓 𝖙𝖍𝖊𝖒𝖘𝖊𝖑𝖛𝖊𝖘." ― Sotha Sil
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