Al_Ex_Andre wrote: »The Templar got me into ESO.
Solar Knight-cleric type/paladin using a spear spell. Exactly the breed I wanted to play.
What caught my attention too, is that the templar is the nuker in ESO fluff, he is the fire incarnated, finally some devs recognized (and acknowledge) in a game what a shining knight/cleric type class is within.
The Templar was advertised, back then when I decided or not to subscribe, as a good healer and good dps. Good that because paladins type guys are often relegated to only heal in many video games (@ wow classic/Warcraft, for instance), and I definetly wanted to dps with good results too.
Needless to say I subscribed.
Now that his dps has been altered in this game too, I keep him anyway because my life doesn't resolve around ESO. I don't raid, and I play semi-serious so I guess that's okay.
Yeah I can solo fine too with this class, except maybie in the infinite archive where final bosses (Tho'at? sp?) are not HtH friendly
+1 for the Templar
Gratz for your High Warlord rank in WoW!Pixiepumpkin wrote: »Al_Ex_Andre wrote: »The Templar got me into ESO.
Solar Knight-cleric type/paladin using a spear spell. Exactly the breed I wanted to play.
What caught my attention too, is that the templar is the nuker in ESO fluff, he is the fire incarnated, finally some devs recognized (and acknowledge) in a game what a shining knight/cleric type class is within.
The Templar was advertised, back then when I decided or not to subscribe, as a good healer and good dps. Good that because paladins type guys are often relegated to only heal in many video games (@ wow classic/Warcraft, for instance), and I definetly wanted to dps with good results too.
Needless to say I subscribed.
Now that his dps has been altered in this game too, I keep him anyway because my life doesn't resolve around ESO. I don't raid, and I play semi-serious so I guess that's okay.
Yeah I can solo fine too with this class, except maybie in the infinite archive where final bosses (Tho'at? sp?) are not HtH friendly
+1 for the Templar
I found the WoW paladin to embody the spirit of a warrior cleric much more than ESO. All the classes in ESO (save for the Arcanist) feel watered down with little reflection of the class even being a class (probably due to weapon skill lines muddying up the waters).
But outside of that, did you not play Shockadin? Holy/Ret? It NUKED people and as a High Warlord, the ONLY spec that scared me.
Thank you. It was a grind, but I had a good time doing it (except for the last month...the amount I had to play sucked, I am glad they changed the sytem, it was unhealthy).Al_Ex_Andre wrote: »Gratz for your High Warlord rank in WoW!
ya, losing out on the last talent point (the point needed to go 21 in ret) made holy suck at healing.lostineternity wrote: »Nah I wanted to play a shockadin, but the spec sucked at healing dungeons, so I sticked with the healer spec. I also did played in late classic, and wouldn't have the stuff (T2.5) to nuke enough.
Ya, they nuked it. I went holy...funnily enough I levled holy in TBC, fastest class out of all of them to level and it was my first one to 70. Not because it did any good damage, but because I could always find someone to do the work for me if I just heal botted them. LOL.lostineternity wrote: »I tried Shockadin in Burning Crusade, but same thing, I sucked at dungeons with this spec, Blizzard wanted paladins to heal.
But I would definetly have been a shockadin if I could play normally in groups.
It definitely was not in their vision, which sucked because it was so frigging fun.lostineternity wrote: »After that, when double specialization was introduced, Shockadin slowly died a miserable death, apparently this was not a supported spec from Blizzard, except that Holy Shock was all about dps back then, and this was in the Holy tree.
I think they cattered to some kind of players who think that the Holy spec is for healing and that's it.
lostineternity wrote: »More on topic, I advocated in WoW for the spear, that it would definitely suit a paladin (Lancelot in the 5 stars 80's movie Excalibur, used a spear to beat up Arthur, ah ah), and way more than a fat 2handed (how strange), and what I see in ESO?
The templar uses a spear (@ within a spell). Well done ZOS. Right on the spot.
So a +1 for the Templar, in my book.
I totally agree that paladins are sword and board guys^^ I played to AD&D back then too (used AD&D 1st ed, in the 90's), and this was the norm, longsword and shield^^Pixiepumpkin wrote: »Thank you. It was a grind, but I had a good time doing it (except for the last month...the amount I had to play sucked, I am glad they changed the sytem, it was unhealthy).Al_Ex_Andre wrote: »Gratz for your High Warlord rank in WoW!
I still have all the old armor and weapons. Back then we'd even buy the things we dont use like staves (I was a hunter) just because you'd never see it again.ya, losing out on the last talent point (the point needed to go 21 in ret) made holy suck at healing.lostineternity wrote: »Nah I wanted to play a shockadin, but the spec sucked at healing dungeons, so I sticked with the healer spec. I also did played in late classic, and wouldn't have the stuff (T2.5) to nuke enough.Ya, they nuked it. I went holy...funnily enough I levled holy in TBC, fastest class out of all of them to level and it was my first one to 70. Not because it did any good damage, but because I could always find someone to do the work for me if I just heal botted them. LOL.lostineternity wrote: »I tried Shockadin in Burning Crusade, but same thing, I sucked at dungeons with this spec, Blizzard wanted paladins to heal.
But I would definetly have been a shockadin if I could play normally in groups.It definitely was not in their vision, which sucked because it was so frigging fun.lostineternity wrote: »After that, when double specialization was introduced, Shockadin slowly died a miserable death, apparently this was not a supported spec from Blizzard, except that Holy Shock was all about dps back then, and this was in the Holy tree.
I think they cattered to some kind of players who think that the Holy spec is for healing and that's it.
It was not to bad at the beginning of TBC. I had an all shockadin Arena team (5 man). We blew people up so fast it was dumb. We would often hide around a corner, like in ruins of lorderon before they changed the entry (there were corners you could hide around blizz changed it later on).
We'd wait for the opposting team, pop wings (avenging wrath), drop concecrate and watch the enemies drop like flies. It was ridiculous.lostineternity wrote: »More on topic, I advocated in WoW for the spear, that it would definitely suit a paladin (Lancelot in the 5 stars 80's movie Excalibur, used a spear to beat up Arthur, ah ah), and way more than a fat 2handed (how strange), and what I see in ESO?
The templar uses a spear (@ within a spell). Well done ZOS. Right on the spot.
So a +1 for the Templar, in my book.
I always saw the paladins as sword and shield or mace and shield with a tome. Probably from my dungeons and dragons days and foggy memory. So the wow model fit perfectly for me.
Oddly, I felt templars were out of place with spear, but your interpretation makes sense. Lancelot was cool.