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Should i use start Dark Heart of Skyrim story from the beginning? (Spoilers)
Sewedir
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So I did Markarth prologue and I am doing Markarth story/
Yesterday I learned that Markarth is the end of the Dark Heart of Skyrim storyline.
Should I go and do the beginning of the Dark of Skyrim storyline?
The main reason I started doing Markarth was the reappearance of ESO characters like Count Verandis Ravenwatch.
Is it worth doing the story from the beginning?
Also, ESO has more stories like this that span through multiple updates like Legacy of the Bretons.
Is it worth doing it from the beginning if I already started it?
Edited by ZOS_Icy on January 20, 2024 7:09PM Yesterday I learned that Markarth is the end of the Dark Heart of Skyrim storyline.
Should I go and do the beginning of the Dark of Skyrim storyline?
The main reason I started doing Markarth was the reappearance of ESO characters like Count Verandis Ravenwatch.
Is it worth doing the story from the beginning?
Also, ESO has more stories like this that span through multiple updates like Legacy of the Bretons.
Is it worth doing it from the beginning if I already started it?
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LunaFlora✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭there's extra quests at the end of the Markarth story if you also did the Greymoor story.
and Lyris, who has a side quest in the Reach with Sai Sahan, is also in Greymoor.
yea it's worth doing if you already started Markarth. i dont think there's any characters that appear in both zone stories.
i think you can do Dragonhold before Elsweyr as well.miaow! i'm Luna ( she/her ).
🌸*throws cherry blossom on you*🌸
"Eagles advance, traveler! And may the Green watch and keep you."
🦬🦌🐰
PlayStation and PC EU.
LunaLolaBlossom on psn.
LunaFloraBlossom on pc.0 -
Artim_X✭✭✭✭✭
✭They are technically two connected stories happening at the same time with a epilogue quest that is accessible to those who cleared both. So go at your own pace and complete the quests in whatever order you wish.(AD) Artim X/Xirtām/Måtrix |PC/NA| Casual staff wielding vampire sorcerer/templar/arcanistElectric-Stunhttps://media.giphy.com/media/Av0zcKH3i2BkaY1GXW/giphy.gif/https://c.tenor.com/jQHdFftrgwMAAAAC/tenor.gifElectric-Pets- Roleplay Damage Dealing Build.
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (infused/shock enchant), and Kinras's jewelry (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused/flame/weapon damage enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Lightning Flood, Shocking Soul (Shock damage, Class Mastery Signature Script, and Empower), and Power Overload.
- Ability-Bar 2: Storm Pulsar, Streak, Shock Reach, Unstable Wall of Storms, Shocking Burst (Shock Damage, remove 1 negative effect, and interrupt) and Thunderous Rage.
Solo: Use Kinras's chest, replace Mora with Ring of the Pale Order, and use a heavy Slimcraw piece for max critical.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNHVjemwxZHI2ZmQ2bTg1ZG0xOTZ3b2QwajBzNGxmaHh6OXRpN3p6YSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/eBgWizk5dmZRS/giphy.gifElectric-Heal- Stress free one bar pet build .
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants. No chest piece), 1 medium Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, medium, Max Mag Enchants), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant ring and necklace (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant), Oakensoul ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)
- Ability-Bar: Daedric Prey, Summon Volatile Familiar, Bound Armaments, Unstable Wall of Storms, Summon Twilight Matriarch, and Greater storm Atronach.
https://media.giphy.com/media/5ibGIHneWS6ek/giphy.gifElectric-Ward- My Healer Build.
- Gear: 5 Spell Power Cure (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (Charged/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/restoration staff (Powered with absorb magicka enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Blessing of Restoration, Energy Orb, Twilight Matriarch, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Blockade of Storms, Twilight Matriarch, and Aggressive Horn.
https://media.giphy.com/media/Wa0TGmtDvwW3e/giphy.gifElectric-Vamp- My Meme Tank Build that uses high resistance and variety of wards.
- Gear: 5 Brands of Imperium (All body pieces except Head and Shoulders, with Divine trait, and with Prismatic Defense Enchants), full Iceheart (1 light and 1 medium. Divines and Prismatic Enchant), and Combat Physician jewelry (bloodthirsty with Prismatic Recovery Enchants), Combat Physician restoration staff (Infused with hardening enchant), and combat physician ice staff (Infused with crusher enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Bound Aegis, Deep Thoughts, Boundless Storm, Healing Ward, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Silver Leash (Elemental Drain if healer isn't running it), Bound Aegis, Frost Clench, Blockade of Frost, Empowered Ward, and Temporal Guard.
https://media.giphy.com/media/ukDQiYZzRAxMZKcK86/giphy.gifDawnfang- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (medium chest and body pieces light. All Impenetrable with Prismatic Enchants). Gaze of Sithis and 1 light Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton (light shoulders, and impenetrable with Prismtaic Enchants). Knight Slayer (Swift with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused with oblivion enchant)/restoration staff (infused with oblivion enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Boundless Storm, Soul Splitting Trap, Radiating Regeneration, Healing Ward, and Life Giver.
- Ability-Bar 2: Drain Vigor (Elemental Susceptibility), Race Against Time, Rune Cage, Radiant Magelight, Regenerative Ward, and Shatter Soul.
https://media.tenor.com/ogWfvDdsqBIAAAAd/anime-black-clover.gifDuskfang- My casual one bar heavy attack Templar build that primarily utilizes Aedric Spear abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Puncturing Sweep, Aurora Javelin, Toppling Charge, Blazing Spear, Radiant Ward/Breath of life, and Crescent Sweep.
https://media.tenor.com/Jo8aG_ouy_oAAAAd/ac-odyssey.gifEye of the Queen- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Radiant Oppression, Race Against Time, Aurora Javelin, Breath of Life, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fd/44/1c/fd441c8242af6ec35ada94496feb0901.gifEye of the King- My casual one bar heavy attack Arcanist build that primarily utilizes Herald of the Tome abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Pragmatic Fatecarver, Cephaliarch's Flail, Rune of Displacement, Inspired Scholarship/Evolving Runemend, and The Languid Eye.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExOTAzdjV1eTgwbDFmM3lrZmxuMXRqdDR3Y3h1ZDRpajR0M3VjZzQ3NSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/zXmbOaTpbY6mA/giphy.gifPvE Starter Gear- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Race Against Time, Rune of Uncanny Adoration, Evolving Runemend, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://media.giphy.com/media/6CovzgyTig7M4/giphy.gifRace- Gear: 5 Law of Julianos (heavy chest, gloves/belt light, and the rest can be light or 1 medium piece if you're not wearing medium anywhere else on your body. All in training if grinding for XP or divines), Armor of the Seducer or Magnus' Gift head, shoulder, and staves (light with 1 medium piece if you are not already wearing 1 medium Julianos piece. All in training or divines. The staves should be training or infused), and 3 purple Willpower Jewelry with Arcane trait (can be bought from trading guilds for relatively cheap.
- Check tamrieltradecentre.com for the best deals if you're not using a price checking addon).
https://media.giphy.com/media/sdEkeWpiaGz0A/giphy.gifMundus Stones- High elf, since you will not have issues with sustain, but other mag based races are also fine so this is more of a personal choice.
https://media.giphy.com/media/cT3wMhLGQWdKU/giphy.gifCurrent Champion Points- PvP: The Steed for speed. Gotta go fast!
- PvE Healing/Damage: The Thief for decent crit rate.
- PvE Tanking: The Lady to get close to resistance cap.
https://media.giphy.com/media/l4FGDAx6u3hthMhgI/giphy.gifFavorite Foods and Potions- DPS: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Exploiter, Weapons Expert, Fighting Finesse, Master-at-Arms, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Healer Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Hope Infusion, Weapon's Expert, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Tanky Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Ironclad, Enduring Resolve, Reinforced, Duelist's Rebuff, Bastion, Ward Master, Rejuvenation, Fortified.
- PvP Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, Occult Overload, Arcane Supremacy, Bastion, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- PvP Temp/Arcanist: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, From the Brink, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
https://media.giphy.com/media/3otPoTggaYFNd1FdAI/giphy.gif- Parse Food for PvE:(DPS) Ghastly Eye Bowl (increases Max Magicka by 4592 and Magicka Recovery by 459 for 2 hours).
- Gold/Purple Food for Sorc PvP and Meme Tanking:(PvP) Clockwork Citrus Filet (increases Max Health by 3326, Health Recovery by 406 [useful if stage 1 vampire], Max Magicka by 3080, and Magicka Recovery by 338 for 2 hours). Witchmother's Potent Brew (Increase Max Magicka by 2856, Max Health by 3094, and Magicka Recovery by 315 for 2 hours.
- Trash Potions when feeling cheap: Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
- Crafted Potions: Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy on my Sorc, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking). My templar/arcanist will mostly use Essence of Health (Tri-Stat Potion) Ingredients: (Mountain Flower, Columbine, and Bugloss).
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Sidonius✭✭✭The games pretty much designed to play how you want, the only problem I have is when a character dies or disappears forever in a dlc, they're magically alive and well in another storyline.0 -
LunaFlora✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭The games pretty much designed to play how you want, the only problem I have is when a character dies or disappears forever in a dlc, they're magically alive and well in another storyline.
for which character from dlc has that actually happened? i don't remember anymiaow! i'm Luna ( she/her ).
🌸*throws cherry blossom on you*🌸
"Eagles advance, traveler! And may the Green watch and keep you."
🦬🦌🐰
PlayStation and PC EU.
LunaLolaBlossom on psn.
LunaFloraBlossom on pc.0 -
Sewedir✭✭there's extra quests at the end of the Markarth story if you also did the Greymoor story.
and Lyris, who has a side quest in the Reach with Sai Sahan, is also in Greymoor.
yea it's worth doing if you already started Markarth. i dont think there's any characters that appear in both zone stories.
i think you can do Dragonhold before Elsweyr as well.
On eso website there is info that dark heart of skyrim storyline starts with harrowstorm update but from what i understand it, it is just a couple of dungeons, right?
Open world, dark heart of skyrim starts with greymoore expansion, if i understood you correctly.1 -
Kendaric✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭there's extra quests at the end of the Markarth story if you also did the Greymoor story.
and Lyris, who has a side quest in the Reach with Sai Sahan, is also in Greymoor.
yea it's worth doing if you already started Markarth. i dont think there's any characters that appear in both zone stories.
i think you can do Dragonhold before Elsweyr as well.
On eso website there is info that dark heart of skyrim storyline starts with harrowstorm update but from what i understand it, it is just a couple of dungeons, right?
Open world, dark heart of skyrim starts with greymoore expansion, if i understood you correctly.
That is correct.
It's not really necessary to do Greymoor to understand the events in Markath, but I'd do Greymoor's story at least once.0 -
LunaFlora✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭there's extra quests at the end of the Markarth story if you also did the Greymoor story.
and Lyris, who has a side quest in the Reach with Sai Sahan, is also in Greymoor.
yea it's worth doing if you already started Markarth. i dont think there's any characters that appear in both zone stories.
i think you can do Dragonhold before Elsweyr as well.
On eso website there is info that dark heart of skyrim storyline starts with harrowstorm update but from what i understand it, it is just a couple of dungeons, right?
Open world, dark heart of skyrim starts with greymoore expansion, if i understood you correctly.
yea harrowstorm is two dungeons.
yea overland dark heart of skyrim starts with Greymoor.
there's also the Greymoor prologue quest though.
and there's the stonethorn dungeons which take place before Markarth's prologue.
Gwendis has a side quest in Greymoor which is in Blackreach. not necessary for anything, but you get extra dialogue about it in the quests after it i think.
Edited by LunaFlora on January 20, 2024 1:56PMmiaow! i'm Luna ( she/her ).
🌸*throws cherry blossom on you*🌸
"Eagles advance, traveler! And may the Green watch and keep you."
🦬🦌🐰
PlayStation and PC EU.
LunaLolaBlossom on psn.
LunaFloraBlossom on pc.0 -
Sewedir✭✭there's extra quests at the end of the Markarth story if you also did the Greymoor story.
and Lyris, who has a side quest in the Reach with Sai Sahan, is also in Greymoor.
yea it's worth doing if you already started Markarth. i dont think there's any characters that appear in both zone stories.
i think you can do Dragonhold before Elsweyr as well.
On eso website there is info that dark heart of skyrim storyline starts with harrowstorm update but from what i understand it, it is just a couple of dungeons, right?
Open world, dark heart of skyrim starts with greymoore expansion, if i understood you correctly.
yea harrowstorm is two dungeons.
yea overland dark heart of skyrim starts with Greymoor.
there's also the Greymoor prologue quest though.
and there's the stonethorn dungeons which take place before Markarth's prologue.
Gwendis has a side quest in Greymoor which is in Blackreach. not necessary for anything, but you get extra dialogue about it in the quests after it i think.
Yes, thanks for the info. i already did gwendis prologue prior to markarth.
Thanks for clarification.
That is correct.
It's not really necessary to do Greymoor to understand the events in Markath, but I'd do Greymoor's story at least once.
Thanks for the help.
Cheers,
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Northwold✭✭✭✭✭
✭Greymoor's (Western Skyrim's) main story is part 1 of what follows in Markarth. BUT Greymoor's story is also one of the worst pieces of writing in ESO. Markarth is the barely redeeming bit and you should be able to figure out what came before. In this instance, I wouldn't say you're missing out.Edited by Northwold on January 20, 2024 6:56PM0 -
ZOS_IcymodGreetings,
After further review we have decided to move this thread to a category we think is more appropriate for this topic.
Thank you for your understanding.
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Sewedir✭✭Greymoor's (Western Skyrim's) main story is part 1 of what follows in Markarth. BUT Greymoor's story is also one of the worst pieces of writing in ESO. Markarth is the barely redeeming bit and you should be able to figure out what came before. In this instance, I wouldn't say you're missing out.
So which zones/expansions are the best when we are talking about the quality of writing?
At the moment I am doing Clockwork City.0 -
Northwold✭✭✭✭✭
✭Greymoor's (Western Skyrim's) main story is part 1 of what follows in Markarth. BUT Greymoor's story is also one of the worst pieces of writing in ESO. Markarth is the barely redeeming bit and you should be able to figure out what came before. In this instance, I wouldn't say you're missing out.
So which zones/expansions are the best when we are talking about the quality of writing?
At the moment I am doing Clockwork City.
People like Wrothgar a lot. Hews Bane is very well written (better written than anything I recall of all Elder Scrolls including the single player games, to be frank), though the city layout and stealing quests get very annoying IMO (I love the design of the zone though).
Probably easier to say which ones I, at least, found seriously below par, and they were Greymoor and Blackwood. By the time Blackwood took in the Deadlands I just couldn't carry on with the main story I couldn't bear it (although that also had to do with the standard of acting of someone playing a lead character).
Oh, I loved Murkmire for being super different but seems to get mixed reviews.Edited by Northwold on January 25, 2024 2:19AM0
