Slow Saturday

kevkj · January 6

Anyone noticed fewer people than usual in-game/online today (PC NA)? Event fatigue? Folks out stretching the "holiday season"? Enjoying the first snowfall in a while for many of us? Or is there some holiday I'm not aware of?

Four_Fingers · January 6

They all seem to be on PS NA in Artaeum stealing my fishing holes. lol
Seriously Summerset is packed today.

wilykcat · January 6

I'm enjoying the snowfall. Also I got out of work early. More time to play eso and go out in the snow ❄️ 😃👍

Qyrk · January 6

Well it’s January 6 here

………can be just a normal Saturday……

TaSheen · January 6

Not at all. Everywhere I went today (including Blackwood to finish out my last weekly endeavor) there were people all over. Vivec was so overrun I went to Blackwood to do daily writs....

SeaGtGruff · January 6

I'll be on later. I had to catch up on some sleep today.

SaffronCitrusflower · January 6

PC NA Grey Host filled up faster today than normal. Either there are still a lot of people taking it easy this weekend in game than normal, or they lowered the pop cap again.

SilverBride · January 7

I've seen as many players as usual.

Jaraal · January 7

kevkj wrote: »

Anyone noticed fewer people than usual in-game/online today (PC NA)? Event fatigue? Folks out stretching the "holiday season"? Enjoying the first snowfall in a while for many of us? Or is there some holiday I'm not aware of?

There can be multiple instances of any given zone up at the same time. You may have just been in some of the lower population versions.

ADarklore · January 7

Having just created a new character, I was surprised by how many other new players I was coming across while doing the MSQ.

Pixiepumpkin · January 7

I am not seeing this swath of people playing as others suggest.

Queue times regardless of the content take forever. I made a new toon not long ago and saw rarely anyone in televanni or necrom. Even finding a taxi to those zones with 5 guilds is futile most of the time.

The forums are also dead. Crown store, housing, TOT are extremely slow for a game that has as many players as ZOS suggests. So I dunna. Not dead but not as alive as is often promoted.

Four_Fingers · January 7

Started a new account and in the starter areas it was so crowded it was annoying this weekend, yeah Necrom has run its course, but new player areas are alive and healthy at least on PS NA.

Jadeazu · January 7

Don't worry, calm yourself. I'll be on in a few minutes.

SilverBride · January 7

Pixiepumpkin wrote: »

The forums are also dead. Crown store, housing, TOT are extremely slow for a game that has as many players as ZOS suggests. So I dunna. Not dead but not as alive as is often promoted.

The forums are far from dead.
How would anyone other than ZoS have any idea how busy the Crown Store is?
How would anyone know how many are engaged in housing at the time?
As far as ToT, it's gone down in popularity a lot since its release, but is still active. I played 2 casual matched games the other night to get the last achievement for the Infinite Archive Hermaeus Mora Deck and was immediately placed into games.

ArchMikem · January 7

When I logged on for the Endeavor in the Imp City there were a ton of players on the other sides. Must've been a Guild event going on cause when I mistakenly dropped down a ladder deep into the AD tunnels I walked face first into a massive ball group.

I tried to say hi. Didn't end well.

TheMessengerOfDeath · January 8

kevkj wrote: »

Anyone noticed fewer people than usual in-game/online today (PC NA)? Event fatigue? Folks out stretching the "holiday season"? Enjoying the first snowfall in a while for many of us? Or is there some holiday I'm not aware of?

Empty ? how zos boast about how they have millions of players but yet I dont see them usually just a bunch of people standing around at traders and being in dungeon que as dps for 2 hours straight. Game is honestly going on 10 years with not even an fraction of 1 million players spread out across all platforms. Have to face it game will be on life support if their new mmo zos is working on is any good. Eso will end up being too many players who have invested too much money and time into it to leave but will stand around in one of the capital cities in zone chat for 5 hours.

Pixiepumpkin · January 8

SilverBride wrote: »

Pixiepumpkin wrote: »

The forums are also dead. Crown store, housing, TOT are extremely slow for a game that has as many players as ZOS suggests. So I dunna. Not dead but not as alive as is often promoted.

The forums are far from dead.
How would anyone other than ZoS have any idea how busy the Crown Store is?
How would anyone know how many are engaged in housing at the time?
As far as ToT, it's gone down in popularity a lot since its release, but is still active. I played 2 casual matched games the other night to get the last achievement for the Infinite Archive Hermaeus Mora Deck and was immediately placed into games.

• A few posts a day in any thread outside of general is the very definition of inactivity.

• Sales 101: Selling an item less expensive to a greater amount of people yields more income. This is how Walmart became the number one retailer in the world. Based on ZOS communication that the player base is large its a given they'd make more money by making the prices more accessible to a wider audience. I don't need internal numbers to know they are leaving money on the table. I can deduce this by the size of the player base, the prices in game and those prices compared to the competition.

• I recently entered a housing contest and there were less than 100 entries. The steam viewers on any given channel were almost nonexistent, the amount of traffic I saw to my home was minimal. In fact, housing is very small, niche and dare I say "members only" in ESO compared to the wider player base numbers. This is not the impression one gets in FFXIV regarding housing. So I know there is a market for it, but for some reason its not as large in ESO as other MMORPGs.

• I played ToT yesterday, and the fastest queue I had was just over 5 minutes and that was for unranked. Ranked takes even longer. And I'd personally swear under oath that some of those "players" are AI. You play enough games, you see the same pattern being played by some "players" as you do against NPC.

TheMessengerOfDeath · January 8

Pixiepumpkin wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Pixiepumpkin wrote: »

The forums are also dead. Crown store, housing, TOT are extremely slow for a game that has as many players as ZOS suggests. So I dunna. Not dead but not as alive as is often promoted.

The forums are far from dead.
How would anyone other than ZoS have any idea how busy the Crown Store is?
How would anyone know how many are engaged in housing at the time?
As far as ToT, it's gone down in popularity a lot since its release, but is still active. I played 2 casual matched games the other night to get the last achievement for the Infinite Archive Hermaeus Mora Deck and was immediately placed into games.

• A few posts a day in any thread outside of general is the very definition of inactivity.

• Sales 101: Selling an item less expensive to a greater amount of people yields more income. This is how Walmart became the number one retailer in the world. Based on ZOS communication that the player base is large its a given they'd make more money by making the prices more accessible to a wider audience. I don't need internal numbers to know they are leaving money on the table. I can deduce this by the size of the player base, the prices in game and those prices compared to the competition.

• I recently entered a housing contest and there were less than 100 entries. The steam viewers on any given channel were almost nonexistent, the amount of traffic I saw to my home was minimal. In fact, housing is very small, niche and dare I say "members only" in ESO compared to the wider player base numbers. This is not the impression one gets in FFXIV regarding housing. So I know there is a market for it, but for some reason its not as large in ESO as other MMORPGs.

• I played ToT yesterday, and the fastest queue I had was just over 5 minutes and that was for unranked. Ranked takes even longer. And I'd personally swear under oath that some of those "players" are AI. You play enough games, you see the same pattern being played by some "players" as you do against NPC.

The game is in it's dying state honestly you only see pretty okay sized players during events and big numbers during DLC drops. it won't last like wow give it another 2-3 years and it be a wasteland. This is what happens when you dont listen to your playerbase eso is literally just a milking cow. I doubt the server would shut down do the shear amount of money these people waste on crowns and dont even get me started on the gambling addiction this game helped fuel. When zos releases their new mmo eso is going straight to the back burner and if it's successful you can kiss eso goodbye good content that is. This game in all honesty has ran it course. It's the same updated every year and even the devs said that and what they do add isn't going to sustain players they will buy the new DLC play it for 1-2 months and then leave to play other mmos. Game doesnt change enough its just more of the same.

Pixiepumpkin · January 8

TheMessengerOfDeath wrote: »

Pixiepumpkin wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Pixiepumpkin wrote: »

The forums are also dead. Crown store, housing, TOT are extremely slow for a game that has as many players as ZOS suggests. So I dunna. Not dead but not as alive as is often promoted.

The forums are far from dead.
How would anyone other than ZoS have any idea how busy the Crown Store is?
How would anyone know how many are engaged in housing at the time?
As far as ToT, it's gone down in popularity a lot since its release, but is still active. I played 2 casual matched games the other night to get the last achievement for the Infinite Archive Hermaeus Mora Deck and was immediately placed into games.

• A few posts a day in any thread outside of general is the very definition of inactivity.

• Sales 101: Selling an item less expensive to a greater amount of people yields more income. This is how Walmart became the number one retailer in the world. Based on ZOS communication that the player base is large its a given they'd make more money by making the prices more accessible to a wider audience. I don't need internal numbers to know they are leaving money on the table. I can deduce this by the size of the player base, the prices in game and those prices compared to the competition.

• I recently entered a housing contest and there were less than 100 entries. The steam viewers on any given channel were almost nonexistent, the amount of traffic I saw to my home was minimal. In fact, housing is very small, niche and dare I say "members only" in ESO compared to the wider player base numbers. This is not the impression one gets in FFXIV regarding housing. So I know there is a market for it, but for some reason its not as large in ESO as other MMORPGs.

• I played ToT yesterday, and the fastest queue I had was just over 5 minutes and that was for unranked. Ranked takes even longer. And I'd personally swear under oath that some of those "players" are AI. You play enough games, you see the same pattern being played by some "players" as you do against NPC.

The game is in it's dying state honestly you only see pretty okay sized players during events and big numbers during DLC drops. it won't last like wow give it another 2-3 years and it be a wasteland. This is what happens when you dont listen to your playerbase eso is literally just a milking cow. I doubt the server would shut down do the shear amount of money these people waste on crowns and dont even get me started on the gambling addiction this game helped fuel. When zos releases their new mmo eso is going straight to the back burner and if it's successful you can kiss eso goodbye good content that is. This game in all honesty has ran it course. It's the same updated every year and even the devs said that and what they do add isn't going to sustain players they will buy the new DLC play it for 1-2 months and then leave to play other mmos. Game doesnt change enough its just more of the same.

Ya, I defnintely do not get the warm fuzzies. More attention seem to be being paid to monetization than fun. I almost feels like its in a slow cash grab mode, that is my opinion anyway.

I am also not selling a lot at guild traders when events are over. Seems like the core player base only comes around during events but it should be the opposite. The fringe should come around on events and the core should be healthy day to day. If that were the case, I'd be selling more....but its not happening (and yes I ensure my prices are lower than the competition using addons and perusing TTC).

SilverBride · January 8

This game is not dying, regardless of what the doomsday threads keep declaring.

Pixiepumpkin · January 8

It's not healthy either.

SeaGtGruff · January 8

Pixiepumpkin wrote: »

I am not seeing this swath of people playing as others suggest.

Queue times regardless of the content take forever. I made a new toon not long ago and saw rarely anyone in televanni or necrom. Even finding a taxi to those zones with 5 guilds is futile most of the time.

The forums are also dead. Crown store, housing, TOT are extremely slow for a game that has as many players as ZOS suggests. So I dunna. Not dead but not as alive as is often promoted.

(1) Not everyone has the newest chapter, nor even all of the DLCs. The populations in the base game zones plus Vvardenfell will probably always tend to be higher than the population in the newest chapter zone for that reason.

(2) Not everyone cares for ToT, and those who do enjoy ToT might prefer to play against the NPCs for various reasons.

(3) Crown Store? Housing? I'm not following you on this one, unless you're referring to (a) the number of players willing to gift Crown Store items to you in exchange for gold, or perhaps the number of players who can afford to "buy" Crowns from you; and (b) the number of players willing to sell you furnishing materials for your crafting needs, or perhaps the number of players interested in buying furnishings that you've crafted?

Pixiepumpkin · January 8

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

Pixiepumpkin wrote: »

I am not seeing this swath of people playing as others suggest.

Queue times regardless of the content take forever. I made a new toon not long ago and saw rarely anyone in televanni or necrom. Even finding a taxi to those zones with 5 guilds is futile most of the time.

The forums are also dead. Crown store, housing, TOT are extremely slow for a game that has as many players as ZOS suggests. So I dunna. Not dead but not as alive as is often promoted.

(1) Not everyone has the newest chapter, nor even all of the DLCs. The populations in the base game zones plus Vvardenfell will probably always tend to be higher than the population in the newest chapter zone for that reason.

(2) Not everyone cares for ToT, and those who do enjoy ToT might prefer to play against the NPCs for various reasons.

(3) Crown Store? Housing? I'm not following you on this one, unless you're referring to (a) the number of players willing to gift Crown Store items to you in exchange for gold, or perhaps the number of players who can afford to "buy" Crowns from you; and (b) the number of players willing to sell you furnishing materials for your crafting needs, or perhaps the number of players interested in buying furnishings that you've crafted?

1. But even while the new expansion is on sale, during the greatest gifting time of the year, the population in those expansion/DLC zones did not improve.
2. I am referring to the traffic in those respective threads. There is an extremely low amount of forum traffic in those threads and most of their traffic comes from a small hanful of players (myself included, I try to create engagement in those threads). If that low traffic is due to as you say "not everyone cares for", then its even worse than we can observe because that means the systems in game are not engaging people in a meaningful way.

Anifaas · January 8

These forums are not healthy. Compare them to the other forums of ESO's competition and you'll notice a huge difference. ESO forums are a ghost town much like the Telvanni peninsula, Apocrypha and the veteran dungeon queue (PC-NA).

Four_Fingers · January 8

This forum is a little harder to sign up to than most.
Also ZOS doesn't participate in the forum enough to keep people interested.

barney2525 · January 8

kevkj wrote: »

Anyone noticed fewer people than usual in-game/online today (PC NA)? Event fatigue? Folks out stretching the "holiday season"? Enjoying the first snowfall in a while for many of us? Or is there some holiday I'm not aware of?

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