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New update books - rare or bugged?

Raven152
Raven152
Soul Shriven
Greetings, i want say something about new books.

I was interested in 3 books from zones Clockwork City, Northern Elsweyr and Summerset. This ones:

"Engine of Expression", Clockwork City
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Engine_of_Expression_(furnishing)

"Trail and Tide", Northern Elsweyr
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Trail_and_Tide_(furnishing)

"The Flight of Gryphons", Summerset
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:The_Flight_of_Gryphons_(furnishing)

From Clockwork City drops this books, as wiki says:

1.
"A Brief History of Ald Sotha"
Collected from Treasure Chests in Clockwork City.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:A_Brief_History_of_Ald_Sotha_(furnishing)

2.
"The Blackfeather Court"
Collected from Treasure Chests in Clockwork City.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:The_Blackfeather_Court_(furnishing)

3.
"Worshiping the Illogical"
Collected from Treasure Chests in Clockwork City.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Worshiping_the_Illogical_(furnishing)

4.
"Engine of Expression"
Collected from Treasure Chests in Clockwork City.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Engine_of_Expression_(furnishing)

And from Summerset this ones:

1.
"Artaeum Lost"
Collected from Treasure Chests in Summerset.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Artaeum_Lost_(furnishing)
2.
"The Ubiquitous Sinking Isle"
Collected from Treasure Chests in Summerset.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:The_Ubiquitous_Sinking_Isle_(furnishing)

3.
"The Truth of Minotaurs"
Collected from Treasure Chests in Summerset.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:The_Truth_of_Minotaurs_(furnishing)

4.
"The Flight of Gryphons"
Collected from Treasure Chests in Summerset.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:The_Flight_of_Gryphons_(furnishing)

The UESP site says, this books drops from "Treasure chests", as saying in description of in-game item, so i ran around 14 zones and bought more than 100+ treasure maps for Summerset, 100+ for Clockwork City and near 10+ for Northern Elsweyr.

On Northern Elsweyr, after 5-10th map i got the "Trail and Tide" from chest
https://ibb.co/YQFg6M8
s3txbb4ev79d.jpg

Then i started to active farm Clockwork, and after 100+ used treasure maps i got only 27 duplicates of 2 books from 4 possible:
https://ibb.co/jhrSNXB
z7qhykne8l7k.jpg

And from Summerset from 100+ maps i got directly nothing, 0 books from 4 possible.
So i have only 3 explanation of it:

1. I was SUPER unlucky, like 0.04% of this can be happen, which statistically almost impossible, and i mean only Clockwork City, expecially if remember, that i got "Trail and Tide" from 5-10th try in Northern Elsweyr and 0 from Summerset from 100+ tryings, If we count all books with an equal chance of dropping and all conditions also completed.
2. Some of this in-game books have incorrect description, and u can get it from some other sources, but not from treasure chests.
3. Its just bugged, and somehow, some books you can get from treasure chests, and some - not. And this bug not allow me to get books i really want for my house.

So a question - Is someone ever had books:

"Engine of Expression", Clockwork City
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Engine_of_Expression_(furnishing)

"Trail and Tide", Northern Elsweyr
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Trail_and_Tide_(furnishing)

"The Flight of Gryphons", Summerset
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:The_Flight_of_Gryphons_(furnishing)

And if u have - from what try u got it, after another books, and from what source/place? If me wrong - correct me. If its bug - its cringe, counting how much money i spent already on this maps (was buying everything which lower than 20k each, in general around 1-5k each), but hope will be fixed in closest time.
Edited by ZOS_Hadeostry on December 15, 2023 4:13AM
  • CGPsaint
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    EdjeSwift wrote: »

    This is the important take away from that linked thread:
    We checked on this, and everything looks to be set up correctly on the back-end. We're still doing a bit more investigation just in case to ensure it's dropping, though. The team wanted to note that you do need to have read the book in order to find it in a chest. Do you know if you've done that?

    "Some enjoy bringing grief to others. They remind M'aiq of mudcrabs—horrible creatures, with no redeeming qualities."
  • Raven152
    Raven152
    Soul Shriven

    EdjeSwift wrote: »

    CGPsaint wrote: »

    This is the important take away from that linked thread:
    We checked on this, and everything looks to be set up correctly on the back-end. We're still doing a bit more investigation just in case to ensure it's dropping, though. The team wanted to note that you do need to have read the book in order to find it in a chest. Do you know if you've done that?

    Yes, i agree and appeciate both answers, its non-obvious, strange and even illogical mechanics, but after i read this books and added it in my collection, i started getting them from chests (with previous books also, which was already read)

    https://ibb.co/2Wbb7Tz
    ziuas9wfa4ng.jpg

    I also can say in addition, that if u need directly one book, better read only it, instead of start reading everything, its also not good to players, who was farming eidetic memory for collection or from boredom, because from chest u will get only books from learned pool. As example, if u read only 1 from 4 - will drop only this direct book, if more than 1 - will be random one from this learned books.

    Very ty for information.
  • ElderSmitter
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    Raven152 wrote: »
    Greetings, i want say something about new books.

    I was interested in 3 books from zones Clockwork City, Northern Elsweyr and Summerset. This ones:

    "Engine of Expression", Clockwork City
    https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Engine_of_Expression_(furnishing)

    "Trail and Tide", Northern Elsweyr
    https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Trail_and_Tide_(furnishing)

    "The Flight of Gryphons", Summerset
    https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:The_Flight_of_Gryphons_(furnishing)

    From Clockwork City drops this books, as wiki says:

    1.
    "A Brief History of Ald Sotha"
    Collected from Treasure Chests in Clockwork City.
    https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:A_Brief_History_of_Ald_Sotha_(furnishing)

    2.
    "The Blackfeather Court"
    Collected from Treasure Chests in Clockwork City.
    https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:The_Blackfeather_Court_(furnishing)

    3.
    "Worshiping the Illogical"
    Collected from Treasure Chests in Clockwork City.
    https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Worshiping_the_Illogical_(furnishing)

    4.
    "Engine of Expression"
    Collected from Treasure Chests in Clockwork City.
    https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Engine_of_Expression_(furnishing)

    And from Summerset this ones:

    1.
    "Artaeum Lost"
    Collected from Treasure Chests in Summerset.
    https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Artaeum_Lost_(furnishing)
    2.
    "The Ubiquitous Sinking Isle"
    Collected from Treasure Chests in Summerset.
    https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:The_Ubiquitous_Sinking_Isle_(furnishing)

    3.
    "The Truth of Minotaurs"
    Collected from Treasure Chests in Summerset.
    https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:The_Truth_of_Minotaurs_(furnishing)

    4.
    "The Flight of Gryphons"
    Collected from Treasure Chests in Summerset.
    https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:The_Flight_of_Gryphons_(furnishing)

    The UESP site says, this books drops from "Treasure chests", as saying in description of in-game item, so i ran around 14 zones and bought more than 100+ treasure maps for Summerset, 100+ for Clockwork City and near 10+ for Northern Elsweyr.

    On Northern Elsweyr, after 5-10th map i got the "Trail and Tide" from chest
    https://ibb.co/YQFg6M8
    s3txbb4ev79d.jpg

    Then i started to active farm Clockwork, and after 100+ used treasure maps i got only 27 duplicates of 2 books from 4 possible:
    https://ibb.co/jhrSNXB
    z7qhykne8l7k.jpg

    And from Summerset from 100+ maps i got directly nothing, 0 books from 4 possible.
    So i have only 3 explanation of it:

    1. I was SUPER unlucky, like 0.04% of this can be happen, which statistically almost impossible, and i mean only Clockwork City, expecially if remember, that i got "Trail and Tide" from 5-10th try in Northern Elsweyr and 0 from Summerset from 100+ tryings, If we count all books with an equal chance of dropping and all conditions also completed.
    2. Some of this in-game books have incorrect description, and u can get it from some other sources, but not from treasure chests.
    3. Its just bugged, and somehow, some books you can get from treasure chests, and some - not. And this bug not allow me to get books i really want for my house.

    So a question - Is someone ever had books:

    "Engine of Expression", Clockwork City
    https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Engine_of_Expression_(furnishing)

    "Trail and Tide", Northern Elsweyr
    https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Trail_and_Tide_(furnishing)

    "The Flight of Gryphons", Summerset
    https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:The_Flight_of_Gryphons_(furnishing)

    And if u have - from what try u got it, after another books, and from what source/place? If me wrong - correct me. If its bug - its cringe, counting how much money i spent already on this maps (was buying everything which lower than 20k each, in general around 1-5k each), but hope will be fixed in closest time.

    I have received in Elsweyr Khunzar-ri and the Lost Alfiq

    Journal of Tsona-Ei Part one from Coldharbour.

    None from Clockwork and i have all the books and None from Summerset Yet.
  • Buffy121
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    I got "The Flight of Gryphons", Summerset from a Summerset treasure map.
  • Necrotech_Master
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    i wish these lorebook furnishings were not bound

    i have about 30 of them from the archive at this point and i have no use for them, so i just started making stacks of books because i cant sell them

    pretty soon that table they are on is going to look worse than moras archives lol
    plays PC/NA
    handle @Necrotech_Master
    active player since april 2014
  • fizl101
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    i wish these lorebook furnishings were not bound

    i have about 30 of them from the archive at this point and i have no use for them, so i just started making stacks of books because i cant sell them

    pretty soon that table they are on is going to look worse than moras archives lol

    Same, I have them in my antiquarians gallery on tables, on beds, piled up on shelves, they are all over the place
    Soupy twist
  • Raven152
    Raven152
    Soul Shriven
    @Necrotech_Master

    Can add u in friendlist and visit your house and watch this books? If i understood correct, to drop this books u need to have it in your collection, but i wasn't sure u can do it not only by Overworld. Me a PC EU player.

    So do u have this books in some of your house or storage?

    https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:A_Summoner's_Guide_to_Nymics_(furnishing)

    https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:History_of_Necrom:_The_City_of_the_Dead_(furnishing)

    https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:On_Tracts_Perilous_(furnishing)

    https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:The_Prior's_Fulcrum_(furnishing)

    https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Uluscant's_Manifesto_(furnishing)
    Edited by Raven152 on December 14, 2023 10:27AM
  • Necrotech_Master
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    the only books ive been getting are the ones from the archive, i dont really have any other books

    im also on PC NA so i wont be able to help in that regard either lol
    plays PC/NA
    handle @Necrotech_Master
    active player since april 2014
  • emilyhyoyeon
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    i wish these lorebook furnishings were not bound

    i have about 30 of them from the archive at this point and i have no use for them, so i just started making stacks of books because i cant sell them

    pretty soon that table they are on is going to look worse than moras archives lol

    so many of the archive-exclusive ones I want sooo badly but I really hate that place. I wish I could buy them from other players. It's so weird how so much of the stuff in this game is bound on acquiring
    Zirasia Firemaker, imperial fire mage & sunbather _ Deebaba Soul-Weaver, argonian spirit minder & soul gem collector
    Tullanisse Starborne, altmer battlemage noble & ayleid researcher _ Qa'Rirra, khajiit assassin & dancer
  • majulook
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    I just wish the books were no bound, so i could sell them.
    Si vis pacem, para bellum
  • Necrotech_Master
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    i wish these lorebook furnishings were not bound

    i have about 30 of them from the archive at this point and i have no use for them, so i just started making stacks of books because i cant sell them

    pretty soon that table they are on is going to look worse than moras archives lol

    so many of the archive-exclusive ones I want sooo badly but I really hate that place. I wish I could buy them from other players. It's so weird how so much of the stuff in this game is bound on acquiring

    a huge amount of stuff from the archive is bound, actually makes it annoying

    like its still dropping the collectible items after i finished them, but i am unable to trade them because they are bound, and i cant sell or use them, but i dont really want to delete them just yet in case they fix it down the road
    plays PC/NA
    handle @Necrotech_Master
    active player since april 2014
  • Araneae6537
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    i wish these lorebook furnishings were not bound

    i have about 30 of them from the archive at this point and i have no use for them, so i just started making stacks of books because i cant sell them

    pretty soon that table they are on is going to look worse than moras archives lol

    so many of the archive-exclusive ones I want sooo badly but I really hate that place. I wish I could buy them from other players. It's so weird how so much of the stuff in this game is bound on acquiring

    I feel like more has been bound on acquire of late, which to me only makes sense for things tied to completing achievements, definitely not random drops.

    The EA merchant, Filer Ool, sells two different books each week for 1000 EA currency each, so long as your character has read them. I think you get 1700 for completing the first arc plus the daily (+10% if you’re ESO+).

    If you’re on PC NA, I’m happy to help people through the first arc — message me here or in game and we can find a time. :)
  • emilyhyoyeon
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    i wish these lorebook furnishings were not bound

    i have about 30 of them from the archive at this point and i have no use for them, so i just started making stacks of books because i cant sell them

    pretty soon that table they are on is going to look worse than moras archives lol

    so many of the archive-exclusive ones I want sooo badly but I really hate that place. I wish I could buy them from other players. It's so weird how so much of the stuff in this game is bound on acquiring

    The EA merchant, Filer Ool, sells two different books each week for 1000 EA currency each, so long as your character has read them. I think you get 1700 for completing the first arc plus the daily (+10% if you’re ESO+).

    If you’re on PC NA, I’m happy to help people through the first arc — message me here or in game and we can find a time. :)

    The annoying thing with the vendor is that it's 2 seemingly random books per week, and there's like 65 total that they added. So I'm potential waiting 8 months for all the books that I want for specific houses. :|

    There hasn't been any of the books I'm looking for in the vendor yet.

    In about 50 runs of the archive I've gotten one book drop. And it wasn't one of the ones I wanted.
    Zirasia Firemaker, imperial fire mage & sunbather _ Deebaba Soul-Weaver, argonian spirit minder & soul gem collector
    Tullanisse Starborne, altmer battlemage noble & ayleid researcher _ Qa'Rirra, khajiit assassin & dancer
  • ZOS_Hadeostry
    Greetings,

    After further review we have decided to move this thread to a category we think is more appropriate for this topic, as it's asking the community for assistance.

    Thank you for your understanding
    Staff Post
  • CGPsaint
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    i wish these lorebook furnishings were not bound

    i have about 30 of them from the archive at this point and i have no use for them, so i just started making stacks of books because i cant sell them

    pretty soon that table they are on is going to look worse than moras archives lol

    so many of the archive-exclusive ones I want sooo badly but I really hate that place. I wish I could buy them from other players. It's so weird how so much of the stuff in this game is bound on acquiring

    The EA merchant, Filer Ool, sells two different books each week for 1000 EA currency each, so long as your character has read them. I think you get 1700 for completing the first arc plus the daily (+10% if you’re ESO+).

    If you’re on PC NA, I’m happy to help people through the first arc — message me here or in game and we can find a time. :)

    The annoying thing with the vendor is that it's 2 seemingly random books per week, and there's like 65 total that they added. So I'm potential waiting 8 months for all the books that I want for specific houses. :|

    There hasn't been any of the books I'm looking for in the vendor yet.

    In about 50 runs of the archive I've gotten one book drop. And it wasn't one of the ones I wanted.

    Not sure if you're aware, however I don't believe that the book furnishings will drop for you if you haven't read the book somewhere else in the game. My main has most of the books in the game read, so I get a boatload of furnishing book drops as I grind through IA.

    "Some enjoy bringing grief to others. They remind M'aiq of mudcrabs—horrible creatures, with no redeeming qualities."
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