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Endless Archives Zha'Hass mechanic?

daemondamian
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How exactly are you supposed to hide behind the pillar when it is on the edge of platform?

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There's no where behind the pillar to stand 0_o unless you can like levitate lol.

Also where do you hide when there's no pillar?

I think I've only gotten past this boss (solo) in like Arc 1 or 2 - the rest of the time I try to do the mechanics but pretty much it's the end of a run because I keep wiping.

It really sucks too when I get to this boss in the third arc with 4 threads and have gotten good visions overall too.
Edited by ZOS_Hadeostry on December 8, 2023 4:16AM
  • Treeshka
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    Sadly pillar spawn locations are a bit like that. I would suggest pulling boss to the other side of that pillar where there is a cleansing platform on your second screenshot, then you can hide.
  • pklemming
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    In Mol, they spawn at the furthest player. Here, it seems fairly random. If you get a pillar spawn like this, remember you only need to hide from the boss. You have some warning and ability to move him so the pillar shields. There should be a slightly smaller radius they can spawn in, though.

    I have also had runs where he uses his DT and NO PILLARS SPAWN, which is highly annoying.
  • tsaescishoeshiner
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    I had a pillar spawn and then immediately explode. No way to hide.

    I've also been behind the pillars and still hit by the AoE, which could just be finicky detection.

    I think this should be one of the bosses that ports to the middle before doing its mechanic. That would make it still possibly finicky but hopefully less bugged.
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  • Sordidfairytale
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    At the very least they should make the explosion only take half remaining health if you are not behind a pillar due to all the bugs with the pillars for this boss.
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  • Jaimeh
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    One of the issues with the pillars will be fixed in today's maintenance, it's in the PC patch notes (but no mention of edge spawning location or the fact that you sometimes take damage even when behind them):

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    Edited by Jaimeh on December 6, 2023 3:32PM
  • AzOutback
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    Jaimeh wrote: »
    One of the issues with the pillars will be fixed in today's maintenance, it's in the patch notes (but no mention of edge spawning location or the fact that you sometimes take damage even when behind them):

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    It's not mentioned in the Xbox patch notes, so not fixed there. Didn't check the PlayStation notes.

    flizomica wrote: »
    This boss is a run-ender for me on higher arcs due to how buggy the pillars are (on lower arcs you can burn him before he does the pillar explosion pretty easily solo).

    Either the pillars literally aren't present during the explosion mechanic or I die while hiding behind them. I've done vMoL a bajillion times so I know it's not user error on my part. He really should be removed from the boss rotation until the issues with the fight are resolved.

    I agree with pulling him from the rotation until he's fixed. He's ended two duo runs with my wife and a solo run. It's to the point that if we get him on later Arcs we just leave and end the run. It's no fun ending through no fault of the player.
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    AzOutback wrote: »
    Jaimeh wrote: »
    One of the issues with the pillars will be fixed in today's maintenance, it's in the patch notes (but no mention of edge spawning location or the fact that you sometimes take damage even when behind them):

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    It's not mentioned in the Xbox patch notes, so not fixed there. Didn't check the PlayStation notes.

    This is from the PC patch notes, will edit to clarify it.
  • EdjeSwift
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    Console patch is 1 behind PC patches, so you're getting our last patch. You'll be getting this fix in a few weeks.
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  • spartaxoxo
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    I had this happen the other day and lost a thread to it. Lost the other two to random Internet lag spikes. Sadly I had finally managed not to die to any marauders so I thought maybe I'd have a shot at arc 4 clear, since I was going in with all three threads. 😭
  • Necrotech_Master
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    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    I had this happen the other day and lost a thread to it. Lost the other two to random Internet lag spikes. Sadly I had finally managed not to die to any marauders so I thought maybe I'd have a shot at arc 4 clear, since I was going in with all three threads. 😭

    the explosion is not a 1 shot like in the trial, but it does do upwards of like 38.8k dmg, so you really need high max hp to survive it

    it seems to do a fixed amount of dmg because ive survived it and took the same amount of dmg from the explosion on arc 8 as i have on arc 1 (if he gets to explode on arc 1 lol)
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  • Carcamongus
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    I haven't been to MoL in ages, so the trigger for this pillar mechanic isn't very fresh in my memory. As a result, I often died trying to get behind the pillar, whereas I might have survived had I just blocked and held my breath. And then there's the April's fool pillar that spawns right at the very edge: the boss tossed me from the platform once when I tried to get "behind" the bloody thing. Have the devs forgotten about Zhajhaaasshhhaahaargh the forgotten?
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  • spartaxoxo
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    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    I had this happen the other day and lost a thread to it. Lost the other two to random Internet lag spikes. Sadly I had finally managed not to die to any marauders so I thought maybe I'd have a shot at arc 4 clear, since I was going in with all three threads. 😭

    the explosion is not a 1 shot like in the trial, but it does do upwards of like 38.8k dmg, so you really need high max hp to survive it

    it seems to do a fixed amount of dmg because ive survived it and took the same amount of dmg from the explosion on arc 8 as i have on arc 1 (if he gets to explode on arc 1 lol)

    That was probably part of the problem then. I had made it that far on my Arcanist even though she's a pure DPS build. I probably wouldn't have cleared it regardless, but I'll never know now haha.
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    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    I had this happen the other day and lost a thread to it. Lost the other two to random Internet lag spikes. Sadly I had finally managed not to die to any marauders so I thought maybe I'd have a shot at arc 4 clear, since I was going in with all three threads. 😭

    the explosion is not a 1 shot like in the trial, but it does do upwards of like 38.8k dmg, so you really need high max hp to survive it

    it seems to do a fixed amount of dmg because ive survived it and took the same amount of dmg from the explosion on arc 8 as i have on arc 1 (if he gets to explode on arc 1 lol)

    That was probably part of the problem then. I had made it that far on my Arcanist even though she's a pure DPS build. I probably wouldn't have cleared it regardless, but I'll never know now haha.

    usually arc 4 is where my pure dps arcanist starts to experience too much incoming dmg lol, excluding running into this boss

    i havent cleared arc 4 solo with him (no companion), i can sometimes make it a tad further with a companion (at least pre-current PC patch that makes the companions able to take a ton more dmg)
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  • daemondamian
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    Thanks everyone for your replies, tips and advice :)

    I hadn't realised that you could reposition the boss but will try it again if needed (last encounter was arc 2 or 3 and burned him down & only had to hide 2 times I think).

    I did have one time I was behind the pillar, it exploded and I died after that instantly.

    The only other boss that has mechanics I really hate or seem buggy is Molag Kena; several times I got to the point where she's in the middle of the room invulnerable but after killing the ads she only takes damage for like 3 seconds (or it seems) before becoming invulnerable again so it can take forever to wear her down without an execute.


    I just got to & defeated the Tho'at dragon stage as a sorc (solo).

    I had three threads left but I'd gotten some really good visions & verses. It was my first time encountering the dragon too.

    I stopped after the dragon as it was 1am, I'd already played several hours & there are no extra rewards or achievements for continuing as far as I know.

    I have 14 characters in total with every class so I'm going to try to solo up to Arc 5 at least just once with each remaining class I haven't done it on.
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    Happy to share any build details if wanted.
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    *made it to number 6 on the *weekly* solo LB but was only like 99 on the just solo LB lol. Not really interested in chasing the highest spot on any LB though - was happy just to get to Arc 5 :)
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  • ZOS_Hadeostry
    Greetings,

    After further review we have decided to move this thread to a category we think is more appropriate for this topic, as it's asking for community assistance.

    Thank you for your understanding
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