[Question] Warden Glacial Presence

oOShoryuOo

Hello,

i just recenlty returned to ESO and decided on playing a warden.

In allmost all build guides i found for Stamina Warden the Glacial Presence passive is used but the only slotted Winter's Embrace Skill
is Ice Fortress.

I follow this Guide.

Unless i understand something completly wrong, according to the Wiki Glacial Presence "doubles or triples your chance of applying the Chilled status effect to enemies when using Winter's Embrace attacks"....which Ice Fortress is obviously not.

Also Piercing Cold makes no sense to me either, because no Ice Staff is suggested.

Any insight on this or an explanation would be great.

Thanks in advance

PrinceShroob

Piercing Cold still increases your damage by up to 2%, even without a frost staff equipped.

Otherwise, there's no reason not to take all your class, weapon, and armor passives, even if they wouldn't necessarily benefit you--there's more than enough skill points in the game. That said, you should probably be using Winter's Revenge even on a Stamina Warden, since it can apply Chilled and will help sustain by using your off resource.

LunaFlora

piercing cold used to be 10% extra magic and frost damage so that's probably why the passive was suggested.

i unlock all my passive skills even if they don't always do anything, sometimes i use winter's embrace abilities like Northern Storm or Winter's Revenge

oOShoryuOo

PrinceShroob wrote: »

Piercing Cold still increases your damage by up to 2%, even without a frost staff equipped.

Oh i did miss that part. Thank you!

LunaFlora wrote: »

i unlock all my passive skills even if they don't always do anything, sometimes i use winter's embrace abilities like Northern Storm or Winter's Revenge

Yeah guess that is the way to go.

PrinceShroob wrote: »

That said, you should probably be using Winter's Revenge even on a Stamina Warden, since it can apply Chilled and will help sustain by using your off resource.

Any suggestions on what i should drop for using Winter's Revenge. Endless Hail maybe?

pikHz

oOShoryuOo wrote: »

Any suggestions on what i should drop for using Winter's Revenge. Endless Hail maybe?

I would drop Ice Fortress, personally. TBH this build is a little outdated. I would suggest two other changes, especially if you're mostly solo:
1. Re-morph Sub Assault to Deep Fissure - similar damage and will add Major and Minor Breach, which adds a lot of penetration which will increase your damage overall.
2. Re-morph Green Lotus to Lotus Blossom - keeps the same buffs (Major Prophecy and Savagery) and extends the duration to a whopping 60 seconds. The only thing you'll lose is the additional target healed, which is not that big of a deal.

If you're concerned about losing the defenses of Ice Fortress you could try re-morphing Echoing Vigor to Resolving Vigor. That turns it into a stronger faster heal on yourself only and gives you Minor Resolve.

You'll definitely want to keep Endless Hail, especially if you're using Thunderous Volley bow as that's the skill the bow you're running on your back bar is modifying. If you drop Hail that bow doesn't do anything for you.

robpr

oOShoryuOo wrote: »

Hello,

i just recenlty returned to ESO and decided on playing a warden.

In allmost all build guides i found for Stamina Warden the Glacial Presence passive is used but the only slotted Winter's Embrace Skill
is Ice Fortress.

I follow this Guide.

Unless i understand something completly wrong, according to the Wiki Glacial Presence "doubles or triples your chance of applying the Chilled status effect to enemies when using Winter's Embrace attacks"....which Ice Fortress is obviously not.

Glacial Presence also increase your damage done with Chilled status from any source (even frost Glyphs) so paired with something like Winter's Revenge its significant boost to damage. If you don't want to use any frost damage skills you can safely ignore it, but putting skill points in every class passive will make changing setups simply easier

ESO_Nightingale

oOShoryuOo wrote: »

Hello,

i just recenlty returned to ESO and decided on playing a warden.

In allmost all build guides i found for Stamina Warden the Glacial Presence passive is used but the only slotted Winter's Embrace Skill
is Ice Fortress.

I follow this Guide.

Unless i understand something completly wrong, according to the Wiki Glacial Presence "doubles or triples your chance of applying the Chilled status effect to enemies when using Winter's Embrace attacks"....which Ice Fortress is obviously not.

Also Piercing Cold makes no sense to me either, because no Ice Staff is suggested.

Any insight on this or an explanation would be great.

Thanks in advance

chilled is something you can obtain via using winter's revenge, arctic blast and a frost enchant on stamina warden which are your main 3 sources of frost damage that don't require using an ice staff, you have more sources on a frost warden build, but it's still fairly potent. the damage increase from the passive applies to all chilled status effect procs regardless of their original source. Piercing cold will always increase your damage by at least 2% right now regardless of what weapon you have equipped. can't say i'd recommend alcast builds but if you're playing casually and don't care much about optimising, it doesn't matter too much.

Zodiarkslayer

You can easily tell your build guide is sh ... ahm .. bad, because your Warden doesn't use sn Icestaff backbar.
Anybody who recommends a Warden something else in SOLO play doesn't understand the class.

I have an Icemauler build, that is super tanky and dishes out 40k+ Damage on his own. DLC WBs and most dungeons are no problem.

oOShoryuOo

thanks for the insight guys!

Gonna use this Guide now.
This should be a bit better more up to date.
It also has the morphs which were suggested.

Regarding Glacial Presence. Thanks again i understand it now.
Most guides and the one i use now don't use frost enchants but at least Winter’s Revenge.

Zodiarkslayer wrote: »

You can easily tell your build guide is sh ... ahm .. bad, because your Warden doesn't use sn Icestaff backbar.
Anybody who recommends a Warden something else in SOLO play doesn't understand the class.

I have an Icemauler build, that is super tanky and dishes out 40k+ Damage on his own. DLC WBs and most dungeons are no problem.

Can you link your build by any chance?


Also i am curious if a hybrid stam build with Greatsword and Ice Staff is possible?
Honestly i have no clue where to start with that.
I searched a ton but only found one bar or dual staff build or brittle.