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Fix Ezabi's voice over.

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Not sure if it's ever been mentioned, or if anyone besides me has noticed, but Ezabi's inflection when she says "No thief this one", is incorrect. It's bothered me for the last couple years since I had her, and now this one has finally gotten off his lazy butt to post this.

Anyway, it SOUNDS like Ezabi is calling ME the thief, when instead she ought to be exclaiming that she is not a thief. She says "No thief! This one!" which doesn't even make sense. This one what? It should sound more like "No thief this one." (without a pause).

I suspect the voice actress didn't understand Khajiti syntax, or perhaps the comma inserted there threw her off and it wasn't caught.
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  • Monte_Cristo
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    Always sounded like "No thief, this one." to me.
  • TaSheen
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    Always sounded like "No thief, this one." to me.

    To me as well. I never thought about any other meaning, personally.
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  • Pelanora
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    If ezabi was taking to someone else, the line 'no thief this one', could be ezabi referring to the player, or meaning the player, but as the line is directed to the player and noone else is there, the line must refer to ezabi. Especially as, 'this one' also means 'me'.
    Edited by Pelanora on November 21, 2023 11:27PM
  • ArchMikem
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    She's not claiming she isn't a Thief, it sounds like she wants you to do business with her instead of another who may end up being a Thief. There's a pause in her wording, so its, "No thief, THIS one! Your things safer with Ezabi..."
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  • WhiteCoatSyndrome
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    "No thief! This one!" which doesn't even make sense. This one what? It should sound more like "No thief this one." (without a pause).

    I suspect the voice actress didn't understand Khajiti syntax, or perhaps the comma inserted there threw her off and it wasn't caught.

    Second this! Honestly it grates every time I hear this line.
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    It's perfectly khajiit....
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  • alternatelder
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    Yes! This was brought up in a different thread and people were trying to say it's correct the way she says it. But it's not! It still bugs me when I hear it, I've always wanted them to change it.
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    Yes! This was brought up in a different thread and people were trying to say it's correct the way she says it. But it's not! It still bugs me when I hear it, I've always wanted them to change it.

    It's absolutely wrong. The inflection of her voice sounds like the actress who did the voice for Ezabi thought the line was an accusation directed at the person Ezabi is talking to. No thief!

    Then out of the blue, which you would think would have confused the actress.... This one!

    But you can say that line... "No thief this one" in a way that a Kajitt would say it to mean "I'm not a thief" (This one is not a thief). I'm voicing it right now (this is where writing fails since you can't hear the right way to say it).

    Until they fix it, I'll always be bugged by it.
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  • amig186
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    You're right, it sounds like she's telling you to see her instead of a thief, rather than denying being a thief. But I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. Voice acting mistakes happen, the base game has all kinds of small mistakes, mispronounciations and inconsistencies that were never fixed, likely because it's just not worth booking the VA to re-record a 10 second voiceover. I find it more amusing than annoying tbh.
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  • Pelanora
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    It's perfectly correct, the order of the two parts of the sentence is reversed like old English. 'This one' means 'me' obviously. It's just 'no thief am i'

    "O, what a rogue and peasant slave am I!" Said hamlet....
    Edited by Pelanora on November 30, 2023 7:03AM
  • ArchMikem
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    I think everyone here are making Khajiit more "exotic" than they are. Ezabi isn't Yoda, if she really was meaning to say SHE wasn't a Thief, then she'd say, "This one is no thief!". Just because they refer to themselves in 3rd person doesn't mean words get flipped around as well.

    You also need to pay attention to what she says after. "Your things safer with Ezabi than in some stuffy vault." Ezabi is saying you should use her services over another's, claiming they're all Thieves.
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  • alternatelder
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    I think everyone here are making Khajiit more "exotic" than they are. Ezabi isn't Yoda, if she really was meaning to say SHE wasn't a Thief, then she'd say, "This one is no thief!". Just because they refer to themselves in 3rd person doesn't mean words get flipped around as well.

    You also need to pay attention to what she says after. "Your things safer with Ezabi than in some stuffy vault." Ezabi is saying you should use her services over another's, claiming they're all Thieves.

    What op originally is referring to is still being spoken wrong by VA.
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    I think everyone here are making Khajiit more "exotic" than they are. Ezabi isn't Yoda, if she really was meaning to say SHE wasn't a Thief, then she'd say, "This one is no thief!". Just because they refer to themselves in 3rd person doesn't mean words get flipped around as well.

    You also need to pay attention to what she says after. "Your things safer with Ezabi than in some stuffy vault." Ezabi is saying you should use her services over another's, claiming they're all Thieves.

    What op originally is referring to is still being spoken wrong by VA.

    I don't believe so. Ezabi ever since she was available has been my Banker and I've listened to that line countless times and never thought of it as wrong. "No Thief, This One!" Meaning: Don't place your trust in others, do business with me.
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  • Brakkish
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    I'm sorry I don't have any useful input to this thread aside from: I'm always amazed at how things I consider mundane are obviously worth remembering to some others.

    I truly find it fascinating!

    I'll say, I have zero idea who Ezabi even is. Kudos to those of you who do, and are able to add value to the topic! :)
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    Brakkish wrote: »
    I'm sorry I don't have any useful input to this thread aside from: I'm always amazed at how things I consider mundane are obviously worth remembering to some others.

    I truly find it fascinating!

    I'll say, I have zero idea who Ezabi even is. Kudos to those of you who do, and are able to add value to the topic! :)

    Ezabi is a banker assistant, one of the ones you can buy in the Crown Store so you can store your stuff even when you're not in a town. You can hear her voice lines (even if you don't have her yourself) by activating her when in a group with someone who has her out.

    https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Ezabi

    ETA: I'll add that UESP has the rest of the dialogue, which adds some context: "No thief, this one. Your things, safer with Ezabi than in some stuffy vault." So the point is indeed that Ezabi is not a thief, and the unusual syntax (in which the verb "is/are" is supplied) is present in both lines.
    Edited by virtus753 on November 30, 2023 10:35PM
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    virtus753 wrote: »
    Brakkish wrote: »
    I'm sorry I don't have any useful input to this thread aside from: I'm always amazed at how things I consider mundane are obviously worth remembering to some others.

    I truly find it fascinating!

    I'll say, I have zero idea who Ezabi even is. Kudos to those of you who do, and are able to add value to the topic! :)

    Ezabi is a banker assistant, one of the ones you can buy in the Crown Store so you can store your stuff even when you're not in a town. You can hear her voice lines (even if you don't have her yourself) by activating her when in a group with someone who has her out.

    Oh yes!! I've seen this banker for quite some time.. lol it's now weird to me I've never noticed the name or knew it came with dialogue. I have Tythis

    Thanks for the link! Once I saw the pic I knew immediately.

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  • alternatelder
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    I think everyone here are making Khajiit more "exotic" than they are. Ezabi isn't Yoda, if she really was meaning to say SHE wasn't a Thief, then she'd say, "This one is no thief!". Just because they refer to themselves in 3rd person doesn't mean words get flipped around as well.

    You also need to pay attention to what she says after. "Your things safer with Ezabi than in some stuffy vault." Ezabi is saying you should use her services over another's, claiming they're all Thieves.

    What op originally is referring to is still being spoken wrong by VA.

    I don't believe so. Ezabi ever since she was available has been my Banker and I've listened to that line countless times and never thought of it as wrong. "No Thief, This One!" Meaning: Don't place your trust in others, do business with me.

    Even if that were the the case, the VA is still speaking it wrong, lol. It doesn't even make sense for her to say that when you interact with her anyway. She's already your personal banker.
  • ArchMikem
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    I think everyone here are making Khajiit more "exotic" than they are. Ezabi isn't Yoda, if she really was meaning to say SHE wasn't a Thief, then she'd say, "This one is no thief!". Just because they refer to themselves in 3rd person doesn't mean words get flipped around as well.

    You also need to pay attention to what she says after. "Your things safer with Ezabi than in some stuffy vault." Ezabi is saying you should use her services over another's, claiming they're all Thieves.

    What op originally is referring to is still being spoken wrong by VA.

    I don't believe so. Ezabi ever since she was available has been my Banker and I've listened to that line countless times and never thought of it as wrong. "No Thief, This One!" Meaning: Don't place your trust in others, do business with me.

    Even if that were the the case, the VA is still speaking it wrong, lol. It doesn't even make sense for her to say that when you interact with her anyway. She's already your personal banker.

    Having her slotted as a Personal Banker doesn't stop you from using other Bankers, just like in the real world. I'm not seeing how your claiming the VA is speaking it wrong.
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  • Tenthirty2
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    ...
    Anyway, it SOUNDS like Ezabi is calling ME the thief, when instead she ought to be exclaiming that she is not a thief. She says "No thief! This one!" which doesn't even make sense. This one what? It should sound more like "No thief this one." (without a pause).
    ...

    I always took it as she is exclaiming she is NOT a thief.
    "This one" is her referring to herself. More common might be "This one is no thief!"
    But her reversal works fine too imo.
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  • Pelanora
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    I think everyone here are making Khajiit more "exotic" than they are. Ezabi isn't Yoda, if she really was meaning to say SHE wasn't a Thief, then she'd say, "This one is no thief!". Just because they refer to themselves in 3rd person doesn't mean words get flipped around as well.

    You also need to pay attention to what she says after. "Your things safer with Ezabi than in some stuffy vault." Ezabi is saying you should use her services over another's, claiming they're all Thieves.

    What op originally is referring to is still being spoken wrong by VA.

    I don't believe so. Ezabi ever since she was available has been my Banker and I've listened to that line countless times and never thought of it as wrong. "No Thief, This One!" Meaning: Don't place your trust in others, do business with me.

    Even if that were the the case, the VA is still speaking it wrong, lol. It doesn't even make sense for her to say that when you interact with her anyway. She's already your personal banker.

    She's really not. It's perfectly normal if old fashioned English, with 'this one' instead of 'am I'

    'No thief am i!', is perfectly fine.

    "Oh, think not I am faithful to a vow!
    Faithless am I save to love's self alone.
    Were you not lovely I would leave you now:
    After the feet of beauty fly my own."
    Edited by Pelanora on December 3, 2023 4:55AM
  • alternatelder
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    Pelanora wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    I think everyone here are making Khajiit more "exotic" than they are. Ezabi isn't Yoda, if she really was meaning to say SHE wasn't a Thief, then she'd say, "This one is no thief!". Just because they refer to themselves in 3rd person doesn't mean words get flipped around as well.

    You also need to pay attention to what she says after. "Your things safer with Ezabi than in some stuffy vault." Ezabi is saying you should use her services over another's, claiming they're all Thieves.

    What op originally is referring to is still being spoken wrong by VA.

    I don't believe so. Ezabi ever since she was available has been my Banker and I've listened to that line countless times and never thought of it as wrong. "No Thief, This One!" Meaning: Don't place your trust in others, do business with me.

    Even if that were the the case, the VA is still speaking it wrong, lol. It doesn't even make sense for her to say that when you interact with her anyway. She's already your personal banker.

    She's really not. It's perfectly normal if old fashioned English, with 'this one' instead of 'am I'

    'No thief am i!', is perfectly fine.

    "Oh, think not I am faithful to a vow!
    Faithless am I save to love's self alone.
    Were you not lovely I would leave you now:
    After the feet of beauty fly my own."

    This is how the old thread ended up, people are not paying attention to how she is saying it. She wouldn't say" no thief, am I", which is how she is saying it! There should be no pause/comma if that's what ahe is saying...That's what is bothering people who notice it. Jfc.
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    Maitsukas wrote: »
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    Pelanora wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    I think everyone here are making Khajiit more "exotic" than they are. Ezabi isn't Yoda, if she really was meaning to say SHE wasn't a Thief, then she'd say, "This one is no thief!". Just because they refer to themselves in 3rd person doesn't mean words get flipped around as well.

    You also need to pay attention to what she says after. "Your things safer with Ezabi than in some stuffy vault." Ezabi is saying you should use her services over another's, claiming they're all Thieves.

    What op originally is referring to is still being spoken wrong by VA.

    I don't believe so. Ezabi ever since she was available has been my Banker and I've listened to that line countless times and never thought of it as wrong. "No Thief, This One!" Meaning: Don't place your trust in others, do business with me.

    Even if that were the the case, the VA is still speaking it wrong, lol. It doesn't even make sense for her to say that when you interact with her anyway. She's already your personal banker.

    She's really not. It's perfectly normal if old fashioned English, with 'this one' instead of 'am I'

    'No thief am i!', is perfectly fine.

    "Oh, think not I am faithful to a vow!
    Faithless am I save to love's self alone.
    Were you not lovely I would leave you now:
    After the feet of beauty fly my own."

    This is how the old thread ended up, people are not paying attention to how she is saying it. She wouldn't say" no thief, am I", which is how she is saying it! There should be no pause/comma if that's what ahe is saying...That's what is bothering people who notice it. Jfc.

    ....why does everyone insist she is saying SHE isn't a Thief? She's talking about other Vendors.

    "No Thief! This One!"
    -> "Don't trust others, do business with me!"
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  • Pelanora
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    Pelanora wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    I think everyone here are making Khajiit more "exotic" than they are. Ezabi isn't Yoda, if she really was meaning to say SHE wasn't a Thief, then she'd say, "This one is no thief!". Just because they refer to themselves in 3rd person doesn't mean words get flipped around as well.

    You also need to pay attention to what she says after. "Your things safer with Ezabi than in some stuffy vault." Ezabi is saying you should use her services over another's, claiming they're all Thieves.

    What op originally is referring to is still being spoken wrong by VA.

    I don't believe so. Ezabi ever since she was available has been my Banker and I've listened to that line countless times and never thought of it as wrong. "No Thief, This One!" Meaning: Don't place your trust in others, do business with me.

    Even if that were the the case, the VA is still speaking it wrong, lol. It doesn't even make sense for her to say that when you interact with her anyway. She's already your personal banker.

    She's really not. It's perfectly normal if old fashioned English, with 'this one' instead of 'am I'

    'No thief am i!', is perfectly fine.

    "Oh, think not I am faithful to a vow!
    Faithless am I save to love's self alone.
    Were you not lovely I would leave you now:
    After the feet of beauty fly my own."

    This is how the old thread ended up, people are not paying attention to how she is saying it. She wouldn't say" no thief, am I", which is how she is saying it! There should be no pause/comma if that's what ahe is saying...That's what is bothering people who notice it. Jfc.

    The pause doesn't make any difference. It doesn't change the meaning at all.

    "Oh, think not I am faithful to a vow!

    Faithless.....

    ....am I [this one]

    .....save to love's self alone.

    Were you not lovely I would leave you now:
    After the feet of beauty fly my own."

    Same meaning.

    "Why.....what an ass..........am I!

    This is most brave,
    That I, the son of a dear father murder’d,
    Prompted to my revenge by heaven and hell"

    Etc etc
    Edited by Pelanora on December 6, 2023 7:06AM
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    This thread reminds me of voice-acting inflections in the other games. For instance, in Oblivion the NPCs often say "Look at the muscles on you" but they put the emphasis on "muscles" which just seems weird to me. The emphasis should be on "you." Yet regardless of which voice actor says it, they all say it the weird way instead of the way that sounds most natural to me.
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    I think it sounds fine. I have never viewed it as wrong.
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    This is how the old thread ended up, people are not paying attention to how she is saying it. She wouldn't say" no thief, am I", which is how she is saying it! There should be no pause/comma if that's what ahe is saying...That's what is bothering people who notice it. Jfc.

    Precisely. It's the pause largely that throws off the presumed meaning of what Ezabi is saying which should translate as "I am not a thief." (so don't worry). But also the exclamation point thrown in when she says "No thief!" It really sounds like she's calling you a thief.

    It should be more in one smooth sentence without a pause. "No thief this one." You can even put the emphasis on thief. Though it requires a certain inflection in your voice to sound right.

    I seriously think the VA didn't understand Khajitti syntax when she voiced that line.

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    The pause



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    Change





    The meaning
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    It'd be nice if a Writer could just, pop in, and put this to bed.
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