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Suggestion: Option to Hide Player Names

YffresTrill
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I came across a discussion on here in the past few days (I do not remember the exact one, sorry) regarding character names and how ZOS can force one to change these for referencing something uncouth, while zone chat is basically unrestricted and anyone can get away with saying the most horrific things in there without consequence.

As far as the player is concerned, what is the primary difference between offensive comments in zone chat and offensive player/character names? I would say that it is that you can hide zone chat, but you cannot hide player/character names.

So, why not provide this option? Personally, I would usually use it, simply because, even though I use an addon which hides the account name and shows character name only, most character names are not lore-friendly and it would help my immersion to hide them entirely. I'm sure others would have their own reasons for choosing to use it if available.

(I am speaking specifically with regards to the target frame -- I doubt this would be helpful for nameplates, which I have personally never used, so I am not sure their exact functionality, and are already optional.)
@ Yffre'sTrill - PC/EU (No Steam)
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Naering (Bosmer WW Archer - Valenwood separatist, Hircine-agnostic, honoured affiliate of the Gang of Scroungers.)
Alts: Kunali, Free-as-Wind, Gurzog gro-Kosh, Seldril, Hatiba, Kareemal, Gilfirion, Elorwe, Ludvikke, Tsetha-Vos, Loulou Villeau, Nilvani, Horvund, Maritia, and Treads-the-Aurbis.
  • IsharaMeradin
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    You want to be able to hide someone's name when you are purposefully pointing your crosshair at them? Is that what you mean by 'target frame'? And if so, how would you know that you are interacting with the correct person for things like trade, dueling, etc.?

    And if I am way off the mark, how about a screenshot that demonstrates what you are referencing?
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    Leanne Martin - Breton Templar
    Latash Gra-Ushaba - Orc Dragonknight
    Ishara Merádin - Redguard Nightblade
    Arylina Loreal - High Elf Sorcerer
    Sasha al'Therin - Nord Necromancer
    Paula Roseróbloom - Wood Elf Warden
    Ja'Linga - Khajiit Arcanist

    Characters EU
    Shallan Veil - Wood Elf Warden

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  • YffresTrill
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    By target frame, I am referring to the information by the health bar at the top of the window, not the text that appears next to the crosshair.

    I can provide a screenshot but it won't be until much later as I cannot get into the game at the moment.

    Edit: Though actually, I don't see why an option for the crosshair text cannot exist as well. It is, after all, only options I am suggesting, not forcing anyone to use them. Many people play completely solo and generally have no use for the player interaction selections.
    Edited by YffresTrill on November 8, 2023 4:22AM
    @ Yffre'sTrill - PC/EU (No Steam)
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    Naering (Bosmer WW Archer - Valenwood separatist, Hircine-agnostic, honoured affiliate of the Gang of Scroungers.)
    Alts: Kunali, Free-as-Wind, Gurzog gro-Kosh, Seldril, Hatiba, Kareemal, Gilfirion, Elorwe, Ludvikke, Tsetha-Vos, Loulou Villeau, Nilvani, Horvund, Maritia, and Treads-the-Aurbis.
  • LunaFlora
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    you can choose to prefer character name.
    i have that enabled and only see usernames when targeting players with the crosshair
    miaow! i'm Luna ( she/her ).

    🌸*throws cherry blossom on you*🌸
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  • YffresTrill
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    LunaFlora wrote: »
    you can choose to prefer character name.
    i have that enabled and only see usernames when targeting players with the crosshair

    This is precisely what I am suggesting could be hidden...
    Edited by YffresTrill on November 8, 2023 7:08AM
    @ Yffre'sTrill - PC/EU (No Steam)
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    Naering (Bosmer WW Archer - Valenwood separatist, Hircine-agnostic, honoured affiliate of the Gang of Scroungers.)
    Alts: Kunali, Free-as-Wind, Gurzog gro-Kosh, Seldril, Hatiba, Kareemal, Gilfirion, Elorwe, Ludvikke, Tsetha-Vos, Loulou Villeau, Nilvani, Horvund, Maritia, and Treads-the-Aurbis.
  • Sheezabeast
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    You do know that you can report people in zone chat, right? Just like you can report people's character names?

    This is a non-issue.
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  • YffresTrill
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    You do know that you can report people in zone chat, right? Just like you can report people's character names?

    This is a non-issue.

    I don't like reporting. I am actually suggesting this partially as a way to avoid names getting reported, so that anyone who is easily offended can avoid seeing them in the first place, and partially as an improvement for anyone like myself who enjoys immersion to the greatest possible extent.
    @ Yffre'sTrill - PC/EU (No Steam)
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    Naering (Bosmer WW Archer - Valenwood separatist, Hircine-agnostic, honoured affiliate of the Gang of Scroungers.)
    Alts: Kunali, Free-as-Wind, Gurzog gro-Kosh, Seldril, Hatiba, Kareemal, Gilfirion, Elorwe, Ludvikke, Tsetha-Vos, Loulou Villeau, Nilvani, Horvund, Maritia, and Treads-the-Aurbis.
  • LunaFlora
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    LunaFlora wrote: »
    you can choose to prefer character name.
    i have that enabled and only see usernames when targeting players with the crosshair

    This is precisely what I am suggesting could be hidden...

    i thought you were talking about the name you see under healthbars as you said "By target frame, I am referring to the information by the health bar at the top of the window, not the text that appears next to the crosshair."

    miaow! i'm Luna ( she/her ).

    🌸*throws cherry blossom on you*🌸
    "Eagles advance, traveler! And may the Green watch and keep you."
    🦬🦌🐰
    PlayStation and PC EU.
    LunaLolaBlossom on psn.
    LunaFloraBlossom on pc.
  • Masteroshi430
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    I made this add-on if you are interested in trying it.
    https://www.esoui.com/downloads/info3324-CombatTopHealthbar.html
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  • IsharaMeradin
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    Okay, so you are referring to the character name, character / CP level, Alliance rank, @name and any applied title that appears only when the crosshair is pointing at (i.e. targeting) another player.

    If that information, which only appears when the crosshair is pointing at a player, is hidden, how will you know that you are interacting with the correct person for things such as direct trade, dueling, giving ww/vamp bites, etc.?

    I play solo and this brief appearance as I pass somebody barely registers as having been there. And if the crosshair does linger too long on another player, I can always move my crosshair off of them. Not sure I see the issue.

    That said, perhaps the linked addon will be of use to you since you play on PC.
    PC-NA / PC-EU
    ID @IsharaMeradin
    Characters NA
    Verin Jenet Eshava - Dark Elf Warden (main)
    Nerissa Valin - Imperial Necromancer (secondary)
    Lugsa-Lota-Stuph - Argonian Sorcerer
    Leanne Martin - Breton Templar
    Latash Gra-Ushaba - Orc Dragonknight
    Ishara Merádin - Redguard Nightblade
    Arylina Loreal - High Elf Sorcerer
    Sasha al'Therin - Nord Necromancer
    Paula Roseróbloom - Wood Elf Warden
    Ja'Linga - Khajiit Arcanist

    Characters EU
    Shallan Veil - Wood Elf Warden

    ID @IsharaMeradin-Epic
    Characters NA
    Ja'Sassy-Daro - Khajiit Nightblade
    Natash af-Ishara - Redguard Warden
  • Tandor
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    I think this would just encourage more players to break the naming rules, and they'd be quick to say "if you don't like my name you can always turn it off". I much prefer the present system which discourages players from breaking the (perfectly reasonable) naming rules and deals with them if they do so.
  • Warhawke_80
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    It's already hidden very well I think... and if I target someone and they have chosen to name their character "Buttsniffa" That really tells me al I need to know about them for grouping/Guild Invites etc...
    ““Elric knew. The sword told him, without words of any sort. Stormbringer needed to fight, for that was its reason for existence...”― Michael Moorcock, Elric of Melniboné
  • YffresTrill
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    @ComradeBiscuit
    I made this add-on if you are interested in trying it.
    https://www.esoui.com/downloads/info3324-CombatTopHealthbar.html

    Thanks, I will check it out! Though this would not help anyone who does not play on PC, of course.
    Tandor wrote: »
    I think this would just encourage more players to break the naming rules, and they'd be quick to say "if you don't like my name you can always turn it off". I much prefer the present system which discourages players from breaking the (perfectly reasonable) naming rules and deals with them if they do so.

    Personally, I do not see the problem here.
    I might personally find someone's name distasteful, but I would not try to take away their right to use it. If people have the option to turn off other players' names, there might be fewer reports, therefore less work for whoever has to deal with them, and fewer players complaining about forced name changes.
    If that information, which only appears when the crosshair is pointing at a player, is hidden, how will you know that you are interacting with the correct person for things such as direct trade, dueling, giving ww/vamp bites, etc.?

    Obviously if you require the ability to do this you would keep the setting off.
    @ Yffre'sTrill - PC/EU (No Steam)
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    Naering (Bosmer WW Archer - Valenwood separatist, Hircine-agnostic, honoured affiliate of the Gang of Scroungers.)
    Alts: Kunali, Free-as-Wind, Gurzog gro-Kosh, Seldril, Hatiba, Kareemal, Gilfirion, Elorwe, Ludvikke, Tsetha-Vos, Loulou Villeau, Nilvani, Horvund, Maritia, and Treads-the-Aurbis.
  • BXR_Lonestar
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    You do know that you can report people in zone chat, right? Just like you can report people's character names?

    This is a non-issue.

    She can also block them, both on xbox and through ESO, so I'm with you here. Seems like a non-issue.
  • karthrag_inak
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    Khajiit is on the other side of this discussion. He wants a way where he can more easily see someone's nameplate, level, profession, etc and not be blocked from looking at other players by some corpse that is 5m behind him somehow still getting preferential targeting.

    Every person is a potential new friend for khajiit, this one feels, and he would like to know who everyone is around him, usually.
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  • wolfie1.0.
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    Current system is fine. Reporting is there for a reason.
  • freespirit
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    Khajiit is on the other side of this discussion. He wants a way where he can more easily see someone's nameplate, level, profession, etc and not be blocked from looking at other players by some corpse that is 5m behind him somehow still getting preferential targeting.

    Every person is a potential new friend for khajiit, this one feels, and he would like to know who everyone is around him, usually.

    Oh this annoys me so often!

    Sometimes late at night when I'm doing WB's and there are very few people waiting with me for boss to spawn I try to check out the levels of those players, just to find that the DEAD boss on the floor is the ONLY targetable thing on the screen!

    I would be behind better targeting not less of it.
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