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[Request] Please stop Barry Allen (aka the Flash) in dungeons

cryptiecopb14_ESO
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Enough is enough with the normal dungeon speed runners.

Please either give them their own solo que or put in a mechanic that mandates all team members to be present prior to all boss fights.

And yeah, I know I can group with guild members and friends ...
  • WrathOfInnos
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    The random daily system is set up in a way that encourages high level players to only do normal dungeons (never vet), complete them as quickly as possible, and then repeat on other characters. Can’t really blame players for following the reward system.
  • Genfe
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    As someone who’s literally ran some of these dungeons over 200 times each I can’t be bothered to wait. I’ll Tank the boss Throw out a few heals and kill everything myself. You’re just there to take an Ai hit occasionally.

    Just trying to get my transmutes and get back in pvp as soon as possible. It’s maffs for maffs sake. 2 min 10 transmute or 30 min 10 transmute.
  • Jaimeh
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    The Flash made me chuckle, because yeah sometimes it does feel like that (especially if they are streaky sorcs :smiley:). To be honest there's not really much that you can do when it's a random group from the finder, the only thing is to get some guildies and run with a premade group where everybody is on the same page.
  • BahometZ
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    No.
    Pact Magplar - Max CP (NA XB)
  • Daoin
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    i dont do it myself but on behalf of those that do here's just a simple answer 'request denied' better than most replies you'll get in game if your not kicked first. once i was kicked from fungal 1 at 2000+ cp for simply not taking the waterfall jump route
    Edited by Daoin on November 1, 2023 2:19AM
  • Braffin
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    Enough is enough with the normal dungeon speed runners.

    Please either give them their own solo que or put in a mechanic that mandates all team members to be present prior to all boss fights.

    And yeah, I know I can group with guild members and friends ...

    You can also use the newly implemented group finder to meet likeminded people.

    Forcing the whole playerbase into your playstyle won't happen tho.
    Never get between a cat and it's candy!
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    Overland difficulty scaling is desperately needed. 9 years. 6 paid expansions. 24 DLCs. 40 game changing updates including One Tamriel, an overhaul of the game including a permanent CP160 gear cap and ridiculous power creep thereafter. I'm sick and tired of hearing about Cadwell Silver & Gold as a "you think you do but you don't" - tier deflection to any criticism regarding the lack of overland difficulty in the game. I'm bored of dungeons, I'm bored of trials; make a personal difficulty slider for overland. It's not that hard.
  • MidniteOwl1913
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    Braffin wrote: »
    Enough is enough with the normal dungeon speed runners.

    Please either give them their own solo que or put in a mechanic that mandates all team members to be present prior to all boss fights.

    And yeah, I know I can group with guild members and friends ...

    You can also use the newly implemented group finder to meet likeminded people.

    Forcing the whole playerbase into your playstyle won't happen tho.

    But speed runners don't care about what the other 3 want. They are literally not team players. They don't solo because to get transmute crystals they need the other 3 that they then ignore. I guess you could call not being a team player and only thinking of what you want a play style.
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  • Aislinna
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    Braffin wrote: »
    Enough is enough with the normal dungeon speed runners.

    Please either give them their own solo que or put in a mechanic that mandates all team members to be present prior to all boss fights.

    And yeah, I know I can group with guild members and friends ...

    You can also use the newly implemented group finder to meet likeminded people.

    Forcing the whole playerbase into your playstyle won't happen tho.

    But speed runners don't care about what the other 3 want. They are literally not team players. They don't solo because to get transmute crystals they need the other 3 that they then ignore. I guess you could call not being a team player and only thinking of what you want a play style.

    Vote Kick.

  • MidniteOwl1913
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    The random daily system is set up in a way that encourages high level players to only do normal dungeons (never vet), complete them as quickly as possible, and then repeat on other characters. Can’t really blame players for following the reward system.

    By taking advantage of the reward system they are also taking advantage of the other 3 players.

    PS5/NA
  • MidniteOwl1913
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    Braffin wrote: »
    Enough is enough with the normal dungeon speed runners.

    Please either give them their own solo que or put in a mechanic that mandates all team members to be present prior to all boss fights.

    And yeah, I know I can group with guild members and friends ...

    You can also use the newly implemented group finder to meet likeminded people.

    Forcing the whole playerbase into your playstyle won't happen tho.

    SO can speed runners.
    PS5/NA
  • Braffin
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    Braffin wrote: »
    Enough is enough with the normal dungeon speed runners.

    Please either give them their own solo que or put in a mechanic that mandates all team members to be present prior to all boss fights.

    And yeah, I know I can group with guild members and friends ...

    You can also use the newly implemented group finder to meet likeminded people.

    Forcing the whole playerbase into your playstyle won't happen tho.

    SO can speed runners.

    They do, of course.

    Was monitoring the new group finder a bit the last two days out of interest. More than 75% of posters are looking for fast runs, mostly RND.

    Besides that: Long-term-players (not talking about newer players, as most "runners" eagerly slow down for them), which expect up to 3 other players to slow down and waste their time, so they can once again do it their way exclusively, are acting as selfish as the above-mentioned speedrunners.

    It's a pug. What do you expect? :D
    Never get between a cat and it's candy!
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    Overland difficulty scaling is desperately needed. 9 years. 6 paid expansions. 24 DLCs. 40 game changing updates including One Tamriel, an overhaul of the game including a permanent CP160 gear cap and ridiculous power creep thereafter. I'm sick and tired of hearing about Cadwell Silver & Gold as a "you think you do but you don't" - tier deflection to any criticism regarding the lack of overland difficulty in the game. I'm bored of dungeons, I'm bored of trials; make a personal difficulty slider for overland. It's not that hard.
  • wookiefriseur
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    You can use the new group finder tool for laid back or story runs
  • Tieberion
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    I call them Captain America as the tank. I just walk between mob and get the healer to hang with me. They die once or twice but never seem to slow down.
  • valenwood_vegan
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    This again! I mean I absolutely get that it's annoying to wind up with a random group that isn't ideal in some way (or multiple ways), but that's what random is. That's why I stopped random pugging after a while.

    One could form their own group with friends / guildies / like minded players that want to run the dungeon in a certain way. That does take more effort, but the effort is rewarded when the dungeon run goes as planned. And now there's even the new group finder which should hopefully make it even easier to set up a premade PUG that meets more specific requirements.

    I just feel like it's unrealistic to expect a random queue to be curated to produce a specific experience. (Or dungeon "rules" altered to favor a specific type of run). What one player wants is annoying to the next player. And on and on. Each of us has the power to put in some additional effort to gain more control over our experience if we want to.
    Edited by valenwood_vegan on November 2, 2023 6:07PM
  • svendf
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    This one is easy. Don´t point fingers at player´s, who speed run. You can´t change them. Point fingers at ZoS - they are the ones, who make all this possible.

    With 18k hours in this game, I didn´t speed run or leave player´s behind. Now I just play another game.
  • TybaltKaine
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    Outside of the presented option of Vote Kick, Preformed Groups and Group Finder, you can also just ask at the beginning of the run for them not to do that.

    Talk to people, they generally don't bite. No one is a mind reader.
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  • AvalonRanger
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    Enough is enough with the normal dungeon speed runners.

    Please either give them their own solo que or put in a mechanic that mandates all team members to be present prior to all boss fights.

    And yeah, I know I can group with guild members and friends ...

    ?????????

    We have group finder tool now. Why don't you use it?
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    with [1Stam Blade].
    But, I'm Tank main player. Recently I'm doing Healer.

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