how fun is it to do the same thing over & over again w/survey writs.. needs a quality of life change

LiteEmUp

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as everyone already knows, you need to move away out of line of sight from a survey node for it to respawn if you have multiple of it.. some nodes are easy to do, as you only need to not move far away it, while others require you to really move abit further... and also some nodes have enemies nearby(one node in shadowfen as an example) that you need to deal with before you can go on your merry way to that node...

now imaging if you have more than 10 surveys for a specific node, and it can definitely take alot of time to complete it doing the same thing over and over again... THIS IS NOT FUN GAMEPLAY EXPERIENCE.. THIS IS A CHORE THAT NEEDS TO BE RECTIFIED by providing a quality of life changes on how survey nodes respawn when you have multiple surveys...

it would be great that the moment you complete farming a survey node, it instantly respawns so that you no longer have to waste time going back and forth on a survey node.. other QOL changes for this is if you have multiple stacks of same survey node, farming it it only once would farm the rest of the stack you have in one go...

i want to know what's everyone's thoughts on this...

Olav_the_Stout

Something that I picked up from others on this forum is to preview visit a house you do not own on the map, and then immediately exit. You will come back out right in front of your refreshed nodes.

LiteEmUp

Olav_the_Stout wrote: »

Something that I picked up from others on this forum is to preview visit a house you do not own on the map, and then immediately exit. You will come back out right in front of your refreshed nodes.

sorry to say, but this method is going to even worse and more time consuming when doing survey node farming..

phaneub17_ESO

NVMe M.2 SSD. 10 seconds to log out, fewer than 5 seconds to log back in. If you're okay with that.

I do notice some people skip the 6th node on some of the harder to see surveys, either they don't know there are always 6 nodes or aren't counting. Eastmarch NW Mining Survey for example, there's a node mostly in the ground in the back left I see other people seem to skip over it. Part of the protection of the system if you miss a node, it doesn't respawn unless you get logged out or get much further away than normal.

Some Survey spots are near phasing areas, which gives an instant reset if you cross boundaries. Western Skyrim Enchanting survey where the two scripted animals duel is a phased area, collect the Nodes, go 5 steps and back, poof they're back! Vvardenfell Jewelry survey jump to the other small isles nearby is phased for some reason, and its back up quick.

Lost Treasure addon, I usually go far enough where the X on the navigation bar starts to fade before running back, that works on most of them.

freespirit

LiteEmUp wrote: »

Olav_the_Stout wrote: »

Something that I picked up from others on this forum is to preview visit a house you do not own on the map, and then immediately exit. You will come back out right in front of your refreshed nodes.

sorry to say, but this method is going to even worse and more time consuming when doing survey node farming..

In most cases it is worse/slower but on some of the more awkward sites, say those that require swimming to reset for example it is definitely better/quicker, I've tested this quite extensively.

Ofc if your load screens are slow it is always going to be worse, mine are pretty fast!

Twohothardware

I just want to spot marked on the map for surveys and treasure maps. We don’t have addons on console and have to look up everything online.

wolfie1.0.

LiteEmUp wrote: »

[video] https://youtu.be/Eiey0USGyU0?si=WvmdsZjPxzwxXAuh"]https://youtu.be/Eiey0USGyU0?si=WvmdsZjPxzwxXAuh [/video]

as everyone already knows, you need to move away out of line of sight from a survey node for it to respawn if you have multiple of it.. some nodes are easy to do, as you only need to not move far away it, while others require you to really move abit further... and also some nodes have enemies nearby(one node in shadowfen as an example) that you need to deal with before you can go on your merry way to that node...

now imaging if you have more than 10 surveys for a specific node, and it can definitely take alot of time to complete it doing the same thing over and over again... THIS IS NOT FUN GAMEPLAY EXPERIENCE.. THIS IS A CHORE THAT NEEDS TO BE RECTIFIED by providing a quality of life changes on how survey nodes respawn when you have multiple surveys...

it would be great that the moment you complete farming a survey node, it instantly respawns so that you no longer have to waste time going back and forth on a survey node.. other QOL changes for this is if you have multiple stacks of same survey node, farming it it only once would farm the rest of the stack you have in one go...

i want to know what's everyone's thoughts on this...

Travel distance was introduced to block an exploit

LatentBuzzard

wolfie1.0. wrote: »

Travel distance was introduced to block an exploit*

*Citation required.

They don't even need to respawn the nodes though. Just let us collect multiple surveys in one harvest.

ApoAlaia

LatentBuzzard wrote: »

wolfie1.0. wrote: »

Travel distance was introduced to block an exploit*

*Citation required.

They don't even need to respawn the nodes though. Just let us collect multiple surveys in one harvest.

Furthermore even if it was done to block an exploit there is a point where you cannot just accept that inconveniencing everyone forever and ever until the servers walk into the sunset is an acceptable fix.

Automatic guild bank stacking was prevented to block an exploit, we've been stuck with this inconvenience since.

Treasure map stacking was prevented to block an exploit, we've been stuck with this inconvenience since - with Rich's sneery 'well dig up the treasure straight away then' comment still echoing in our ears to boot.

And so on and so forth.

Ask for better fixes instead of accepting erosion of QoL by default.

Masteroshi430

I don't have this problem because I try to do the surveys as soon as I get them but what would be interesting is:
- Allow the exact same survey map to stack in inventory
- Multiply the survey loot by the number of stacks while consuming the whole survey stack in inventory

If this happen I will probably stop doing them ASAP to let them stack in inventory & do them when I'm out of materials to save time for actually playing the game.

I play since 2020 and I agree that even though I do them one by one as I get them, I've started getting bored doing the surveys everyday.

ApoAlaia

Masteroshi430 wrote: »

I don't have this problem because I try to do the surveys as soon as I get them but what would be interesting is:
- Allow the exact same survey map to stack in inventory
- Multiply the survey loot by the number of stacks while consuming the whole survey stack in inventory

If this happen I will probably stop doing them ASAP to let them stack in inventory & do them when I'm out of materials to save time for actually playing the game.

I play since 2020 and I agree that even though I do them one by one as I get them, I've started getting bored doing the surveys everyday.

I do them everyday as well, otherwise I know they won't get done.

I allowed them to build up when CP 2.0 was announced because of the new harvesting CP node and it felt like a monumental chore to pick them up after.

It also became apparent how wildly inconsistent the 'travel distance' to reset the surveys is - with some, like Stonefalls Woodworking for instance - refusing to reset altogether unless I zoned out (via travelling to unowned dwelling for convenience)/logged out.

Either way yes, a QoL pass to surveys would be appreciated, however given the direction taken on the subject with every new chapter - Blackwood being particularly egregious in its choices regarding placement and originally layout too until some noise was made in the forums, cleanly taking the crown from Orsinium - I think that respect for player's time is not particularly high in their list of priorities, if it makes the list at all.

Wolfkeks

Masteroshi430 wrote: »

I don't have this problem because I try to do the surveys as soon as I get them but what would be interesting is:
- Allow the exact same survey map to stack in inventory
- Multiply the survey loot by the number of stacks while consuming the whole survey stack in inventory

If this happen I will probably stop doing them ASAP to let them stack in inventory & do them when I'm out of materials to save time for actually playing the game.

I play since 2020 and I agree that even though I do them one by one as I get them, I've started getting bored doing the surveys everyday.

Multiply the survey loot by the number of stacks while consuming the whole survey stack in inventory

Yes please. I don't so my surveys every day. I tend to put them in my bank, forget about them and then do hundreds and hundreds of them at once lol

Trejgon

personally I think that it would be nice if we could task our companions with retrieval of survey materials.

Snamyap

The entirety of ESO is doing repetitive tasks. Save one or two weeks when new quest content comes out.

Four_Fingers

We are just lucky they let us do more than one survey a day.
Personally never had any trouble resetting a survey in less than a few seconds.

Destai

I think it needs an overhaul.

A year or two ago now, I sent some feedback to Kevin proposing a new system. Basically, I think they could model a QoL for surveys and treasure maps off of antiquities.

Starting in the Journal pane, you'd see two new tabs - Surveys and Treasure maps. For every map or survey, you'd consume the item to get a new lead. If you already that lead added to the journal, additional consumption adds a charge to the lead. For surveys, the quantity of resources found would be multiplied by the number of charges you have for that given node.

So let's say I have 5 blacksmithing surveys for Greenshade. I consume them all, and those are added "charges" to that lead. When I go to that survey location, those eight or so blacksmith nodes would yield 5x the resources because I recorded 5 surveys.

You could apply a similar idea to treasure maps.

quinancia

Collecting all surveys with one harvest would crash the market for many mats and tempers.

katanagirl1

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

NVMe M.2 SSD. 10 seconds to log out, fewer than 5 seconds to log back in. If you're okay with that.

I do notice some people skip the 6th node on some of the harder to see surveys, either they don't know there are always 6 nodes or aren't counting. Eastmarch NW Mining Survey for example, there's a node mostly in the ground in the back left I see other people seem to skip over it. Part of the protection of the system if you miss a node, it doesn't respawn unless you get logged out or get much further away than normal.

Some Survey spots are near phasing areas, which gives an instant reset if you cross boundaries. Western Skyrim Enchanting survey where the two scripted animals duel is a phased area, collect the Nodes, go 5 steps and back, poof they're back! Vvardenfell Jewelry survey jump to the other small isles nearby is phased for some reason, and its back up quick.

Lost Treasure addon, I usually go far enough where the X on the navigation bar starts to fade before running back, that works on most of them.

One of the few times I had multiple surveys at the same site I missed the last node and when I came back it would not respawn until I finally found it.

* I do not use keen eye because I do not like what it does to the scenery.

disintegr8

I've never had an issue moving far enough away and returning - far quicker than travelling or logging off/on. Any nearby enemies that you might kill generally won't have time to respawn unless you have loads of surveys, even then it would probably only be once.