Buy Game Time With Gold.
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The token cost 20$ as its not something you buy for yourself, its an way for buying gold for money, much the same as gifting crown items in ESO.Tell that to Blizzard. They allow you to buy a token with gold and redeem that token for 30 days of game time. Also in retail wow they allow you to buy the token with gold and exchange it for i believe 20 dollars worth of Blizzard bucks, so you can use that to buy services and other Blizzard games.
That's not quite how the Blizzard system works.
The Blizzard token system DOES allow a player to redeem the token purchased with gold for game time and/or "Blizzard Bucks", but this isn't done by the company directly. There is still another player who purchases the token for real world money and then places it on the auction house. Thus, the company is not the one providing a player with in-game time for gold, it's another doing so. The company is still making more than normal for the token as they charge more for the token in the shop than they do for a monthly subscription. The token costs $20 USD for me, and a subscription would only cost $14.99.
Furthermore, ESO doesn't have in-game time as Blizzard does, it has ESO+ which is an optional service with many amazing Quality of Life improvements, but is absolutely not necessary to play the game.
I'm a little confused. If the token costs $20 and the sub only cost $14, then why would anyone buy the token over the sub?
Also, I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to Blizzard's variation of system in ESO, but it sounds like someone still pays somehow? Blizzard MUST still be making money on this somehow. So I think OP isn't understanding this and thinks this is just free subs.
The buyer provides the gold and save $14.
It increases income for companies as its more transaction.
One idea for ESO might be to have gifted items being an box with item, you could trade it or sell in guild store or simply store it for sale later then price is higher.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
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✭Tell that to Blizzard. They allow you to buy a token with gold and redeem that token for 30 days of game time. Also in retail wow they allow you to buy the token with gold and exchange it for i believe 20 dollars worth of Blizzard bucks, so you can use that to buy services and other Blizzard games.
That's not quite how the Blizzard system works.
The Blizzard token system DOES allow a player to redeem the token purchased with gold for game time and/or "Blizzard Bucks", but this isn't done by the company directly. There is still another player who purchases the token for real world money and then places it on the auction house. Thus, the company is not the one providing a player with in-game time for gold, it's another doing so. The company is still making more than normal for the token as they charge more for the token in the shop than they do for a monthly subscription. The token costs $20 USD for me, and a subscription would only cost $14.99.
Furthermore, ESO doesn't have in-game time as Blizzard does, it has ESO+ which is an optional service with many amazing Quality of Life improvements, but is absolutely not necessary to play the game.
I'm a little confused. If the token costs $20 and the sub only cost $14, then why would anyone buy the token over the sub?
Also, I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to Blizzard's variation of system in ESO, but it sounds like someone still pays somehow? Blizzard MUST still be making money on this somehow. So I think OP isn't understanding this and thinks this is just free subs.
The people who buy the $20 token aren't converting that token to sub-time; they're selling it on the in-game AH for gold. The token is a way for people with in-game gold to support their subscription and for people with real-life money to purchase in-game gold.
The token cost 20$ as its not something you buy for yourself, its an way for buying gold for money, much the same as gifting crown items in ESO.Tell that to Blizzard. They allow you to buy a token with gold and redeem that token for 30 days of game time. Also in retail wow they allow you to buy the token with gold and exchange it for i believe 20 dollars worth of Blizzard bucks, so you can use that to buy services and other Blizzard games.
That's not quite how the Blizzard system works.
The Blizzard token system DOES allow a player to redeem the token purchased with gold for game time and/or "Blizzard Bucks", but this isn't done by the company directly. There is still another player who purchases the token for real world money and then places it on the auction house. Thus, the company is not the one providing a player with in-game time for gold, it's another doing so. The company is still making more than normal for the token as they charge more for the token in the shop than they do for a monthly subscription. The token costs $20 USD for me, and a subscription would only cost $14.99.
Furthermore, ESO doesn't have in-game time as Blizzard does, it has ESO+ which is an optional service with many amazing Quality of Life improvements, but is absolutely not necessary to play the game.
I'm a little confused. If the token costs $20 and the sub only cost $14, then why would anyone buy the token over the sub?
Also, I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to Blizzard's variation of system in ESO, but it sounds like someone still pays somehow? Blizzard MUST still be making money on this somehow. So I think OP isn't understanding this and thinks this is just free subs.
The buyer provides the gold and save $14.
It increases income for companies as its more transaction.
One idea for ESO might be to have gifted items being an box with item, you could trade it or sell in guild store or simply store it for sale later then price is higher.
OH. Ok. Yes. That makes significantly more sense now. I apologize. Thank you both for taking the time to explain it to me.
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YetAnotherLinuxUser✭✭✭✭but is absolutely not necessary to play the game.
try playing the game from start without an eso+ sub and report back to us in a year how well that game play went for you...
Playing without eso+ is very possible under certain conditions but most new player don't know what those conditions are.
One condition might be that you have played with eso + for a year or two and have built up enough mats that you don't need a craft bag for a few years.
Another condition might be that you have bought 10 basic games on sale for 5.99 and started a guild of your own and added your main account to those a few of those 5 guilds you created with those 10 accounts and you now have 2500 guild bank slots to use for mats and overland gear and such.
No new player is going to play this game for more than half an hour before realizing that they NEED eso+ or that they NEED to buy more bank and bag space because managing that mess is so painful there's just no other way forward.
One way or another you will pay more than the cost of the base game in some fashion to play the game.
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✭YetAnotherLinuxUser wrote: »but is absolutely not necessary to play the game.
try playing the game from start without an eso+ sub and report back to us in a year how well that game play went for you...
Playing without eso+ is very possible under certain conditions but most new player don't know what those conditions are.
One condition might be that you have played with eso + for a year or two and have built up enough mats that you don't need a craft bag for a few years.
Another condition might be that you have bought 10 basic games on sale for 5.99 and started a guild of your own and added your main account to those a few of those 5 guilds you created with those 10 accounts and you now have 2500 guild bank slots to use for mats and overland gear and such.
No new player is going to play this game for more than half an hour before realizing that they NEED eso+ or that they NEED to buy more bank and bag space because managing that mess is so painful there's just no other way forward.
One way or another you will pay more than the cost of the base game in some fashion to play the game.
These conditions are exactly how I started the game nearly 10 years ago and I'm still here.
Early game I sold all the mats I didn't need to make money to upgrade my bank and my bag space. I used my alt slots for storage for my mats that I might use, but ultimately I was less of a gaming pack rat than I am now.
Early ESO was extremely rough for us, but we persevered, we didn't have the economy we have now but it was still a fun experience that kept me playing, albeit on and off, for ten years.Edited by EdjeSwift on October 17, 2023 4:02PMAntiquities Addict2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭deyjasagus wrote: »No company in the world would allow their players to buy game time or premium subscription with solely using in game grinded currency in the process of acquiring it.
Only possible and profitable way to sell vouchers of game time or premium subscription bought by someone else using real world currency, and then selling it to players with exchange to in game currencies.
Eve Online comes to mind.
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and as they said, no company in the world would allow subs to be purchased solely by in-game currency. Eve does not sell subscriptions for gold CCP is in business to cover costs and make a profit.
A player has to buy it with real money and can then sell it to another player. That is not what is being asked about in the OP.
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That is understandable but Zenimax, nor any notable MMORPG will be giving away subs for free, which is what is being asked here. In-game gold does not pay salaries very well.
Zenimax has made it possible to buy content from players willing to pay for it and sell it.
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✭✭✭With gifting back you can buy access to all dlcs with gold again.
Allowing craft bag access with gold purchase would kill eso plus
So ya, I don't see this happening.1
