This event is not soloable so I'm not doing it

Yas78

Whose idea was it, to send a player to kill four 3-star monsters, then beg for group because nymic is not soloable for casuals?
You literally require a player to solo raid-level content, what if my main is healer or tank?
I'm not joining any groups because they always complain about my 'low dps'.

TaSheen

You don't have to do that one. Just pick up the one from Mouth Gilvas, to the left of the daughter who gives the painful one. The Mouth will request 5 Esoteric Parchments, made into a bundle. They drop from resource nodes, treasure chests, kills in delves and so on.

Rogue_WolfESO

What platform? On pc na there are constant groups available in chat. X up!

spartaxoxo

There's groups available often. You can also do the delve daily for a solo specific mission for event tickets. If you can't do a delve alone either, I recommend getting a companion. The companions are good for helping players complete overland content on their own.

Elsonso

I recommend just doing the normal Necrom delve daily to get Event Tickets.

The one outside that is offered by Tralise to go into the public dungeon and get three items before heading to Bastion Nymic can be ignored.

I would do the Mouth Gilvas and farm the Esoteric Parchments just the one time to register your Vote for either the music box (Tralise) or the book (Yensa). While these drop from resource nodes, treasure chests, and mobs, the RNG is spotty and it can take a while to get 5 parchments to complete the quest.

After that, just stick to the regular old daily quests offered inside of Necrom. This will get you the event tickets and the super dooper version of the reward box that drops once per day.

markulrich1966

I just do the worldbosses, had other random players around even on the usually pretty dead xbox EU server, even at offtime like 3 pm friday.
I just do bosses cause they usually work quicker than delves at events, but delves remain the fallback that is 100% soloable.

I just bought the chapter, so have no further experience with it. I skip bastion nymic completely after heaving read the corresponding thread before, not my piece of cake.

OtarTheMad

I just do the delve and world boss dailies. BN aren’t my thing so I don’t bother.

Mithgil

Yas78 wrote: »

Whose idea was it, to send a player to kill four 3-star monsters, then beg for group because nymic is not soloable for casuals?
You literally require a player to solo raid-level content, what if my main is healer or tank?
I'm not joining any groups because they always complain about my 'low dps'.

Sounds like you're in the wrong game, and I'm not being facetious here.

ESO is a multiplayer game. The only content of this event that requires you be in a group is the quest that draws you into a Bastion Nymic. Everything else you can do without being in a group, and when it comes to the WB daily there are many players at each of them so you'd have no problem finishing those dailies. You may not get in on any dropped loot if you don't deliver enough damage. Players are always forming quick groups to share the quests and maximize their reward crates. One huge benefit is that you'll get dropped loot because the group's damage is what's used.

I've soloed everything so far, except to share quests to others and vice versa. I'm doing it on a tank, a healer, and dps characters. It's a great community. I haven't progressed the event quest that takes you into a BN.

I don't understand the amount of players who complain about designed multiplayer content being "not soloable". You're choosing to participate in an MMO. You know the game is going to provide multiplayer content. There is a lot you can do in this game and in this current event, solo. Staying solo and choosing not to group or find a small group of players you can hang with is completely on you, not on ZOS.

Twohothardware

I've joined a number of groups, never seen any complaints about DPS and there were at least a couple that that were on tank loadouts and pvp builds so low dps.

Elder Scrolls Online is a multiplayer game. You can solo if you want but the game isn't designed to do everything solo.

SimonThesis

Join a guild, download discord, and make some friends to group with. Its really not that hard. I was a soloer at first too, but the sense of community from playing with guild members is a lot of fun.

Aka_

Guilds, LFG, discord, /say to ask for a group or help... it's an MMO. I'm sorry you're not able to solo it, but it's not all meant to be a solo game. It's a multiplayer game. There are many avenues to take care and I encourage you to try some. It's a pretty good community

spartaxoxo

Just wanted to add, Bastian Nymic is absolutely soloable. I would recommend solo players who want to be able to do a lot of group content by themselves to look up some good solo builds. The only content in this game that requires a group is trials and a handful of dungeons that have forced group requirements.

Pyr0xyrecuprotite

For solo players, you can still just farm resource nodes in the Telvanni Peninsula zone to get reward coffers, although I recommend also doing at least the delve daily (from Necrom) to get your event tickets. Easy.

Elsonso

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Just wanted to add, Bastian Nymic is absolutely soloable. I would recommend solo players who want to be able to do a lot of group content by themselves to look up some good solo builds. The only content in this game that requires a group is trials and a handful of dungeons that have forced group requirements.

There is a difference between "soloable" and "average player can solo". I hazard the suggestion that some groups can't even complete content others consider to be soloable. This game has a wide range of player skills and capabilities, and content like Bastion Nymic and Endless Archive seem effective for highlighting this.

It is perfectly fine for players to drop the Bastion Nymic event quest when they come across it, solo or grouped. As a daily quest, there are better options, and it really only make sense if already doing the normal daily quest for Bastion Nymic. Then, at least, you are doing two quests concurrently rather than spending all that time on the event quest by itself.

Dr_Con

the event main quest from the daughter calls for you to go to Bastion Nymic, but you can get tickets from doing dailies which requires you to just go to a delve and do a task in some cases (like pick up an item). I started the quest and put it on hold because i have an obligation in 30 minutes and saw that it wanted me to go to Bastion Nymic, so I just did a Telvanni Peninsula zone daily instead and got my tickets.

It is unfortunate that you cannot do the baseline DPS and get kicked from groups because of DPS being bad. I hope that one day the game releases an advanced tutorial on how to do good DPS through the mages/fighters guild, calling for players to use full sets and use dps traits and proper mundus stones as opposed to requiring them to read out-of-game guides, or that you reach out to an experienced mentor who can help you with improving your DPS (they exist, i know several of them, if you're on PC/NA and need some help or advice and an individualized action plan to reach a target dps, just ask).

You can also get stuff from just farming in necrom zones... this whole notion of "i'm not participating because it's not soloable" is misleading at best, there's multiple quests, some of which are soloable, and participation in the event doesn't mean that you must complete that quest solo.

Yas78

Well, thanks for your input, but I deleted the quest and dont feel like I want or need to go thought it again.
The problem with 'bad dps' is that dps is never 'good' unless you kill raid boss with 1 hit. I personally consider dps ok if we reached the goal, be it a dungeon or other activity without too much problems, so my dps is ok all the time.
"This game is not for you" - I hear it constantly in any game, there's always a person who will say that when I try to raise some question. Guess what, I've been playing ESO for more than 6 years so far and I'm totally fine playing it alone by doing questing, exploring, collecting, crafting. I dont need 'friends' or guilds or third-party web-services to enjoy the activities I enjoy. If something is not soloable - I will just not do it and move on with my life. This event' mobs are not soloable -for me-, and I dont feel like waiting until some cool kid passes by and kills stuff so I can land few hits and get quest achkowledgment. I also dont feel like asking for group because I dont like asking for help, begging is not my thing. Eventually someone will raise 'the dps question', while I have way too much hardships irl to emotionally contribute my limited life force to these disputes. There's plenty of activities I can partiipate in, outside of ESO included, without crossing paths with people who consider themselves superior human beings because they kill digital monsters faster than others.
Again, healer/tank mains will have hard time killing those four 3-star floaties, so I'm not doing it, not to mention that nymic dungeon or whatever.
This event is not for me.

ZOS_Hadeostry

Greetings,

After further review we have decided to move this thread to a category we think is more appropriate for this topic, as it's event related.

Thank you for your understanding

aru

I agree with you an event shouldn't force players to group up. But I don't understand the DPS part. With 4 people, Nymic bosses fall so quickly that there is no time to complain about it. I'm a casual player, too. I have all purple gear, and as a group of two players and companions, we were able to clear out a Nymic yesterday. You met a bunch of crybabies or some people who are having a bad day, I suppose.

ESO_player123

Yas78 wrote: »

Well, thanks for your input, but I deleted the quest and dont feel like I want or need to go thought it again.
The problem with 'bad dps' is that dps is never 'good' unless you kill raid boss with 1 hit. I personally consider dps ok if we reached the goal, be it a dungeon or other activity without too much problems, so my dps is ok all the time.
"This game is not for you" - I hear it constantly in any game, there's always a person who will say that when I try to raise some question. Guess what, I've been playing ESO for more than 6 years so far and I'm totally fine playing it alone by doing questing, exploring, collecting, crafting. I dont need 'friends' or guilds or third-party web-services to enjoy the activities I enjoy. If something is not soloable - I will just not do it and move on with my life. This event' mobs are not soloable -for me-, and I dont feel like waiting until some cool kid passes by and kills stuff so I can land few hits and get quest achkowledgment. I also dont feel like asking for group because I dont like asking for help, begging is not my thing. Eventually someone will raise 'the dps question', while I have way too much hardships irl to emotionally contribute my limited life force to these disputes. There's plenty of activities I can partiipate in, outside of ESO included, without crossing paths with people who consider themselves superior human beings because they kill digital monsters faster than others.
Again, healer/tank mains will have hard time killing those four 3-star floaties, so I'm not doing it, not to mention that nymic dungeon or whatever.
This event is not for me.

It's fine with not wanting to join a group/guild. But the quest you mentioned is not really needed for anything.
I assume you can do delves just fine. So, you can do delve dailies to get tickets each day. If you want to participate in getting the event rewards like the pet, body marks, and the house, you can complete the quest given by the Mouth by collecting the Esoteric pages that are dropping from a lot of sources (including resource gathering)

LadyLethalla

While wandering around hoping for 5 drops from random objects sounds fun.... I didn't have the patience to look last night and I probably won't tonight either. I'll just do the regular dailies for my tickets.

Arizona_Steve

I'm with you on the grouping, but this event has proven to be good for scoping out the Bastion Nymics. I suck at ESO too and have poor DPS, but have not run into any complaints from other players.

kevkj

Bastion Nymics are about the same difficulty, if not easier than normal dungeons since there are no group mechanics whatsoever. So if you can do dungeons solo I would suggest trying the Bastion Nymics solo if you've had bad experiences grouping.

Grizzbeorn

You did the same thing I did at first, but then I started over on a different character because my grouping partner wasn't around to go into Nymic.

And I'm glad I did that, because I discovered I was on the wrong path (shouldn't have taken Tralise's quest).

I typed this out in another thread:

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The very first quest, given to you by the father, Master Faras, is called "Telvanni Secret," or something to that effect.
(this is the quest in the Crown Store, and can optionally be activated by talking to Master Faras at his camp, where he, his daughters, and Mouth Gilvas Vedran are located.)
(this quest is a prerequisite for "Turn the Page.")

After Tralise pays you for the quest that her father gives you, which ends with him being cursed, you need to talk to Yensa, who will direct you to talk to Mouth Gilvas, OR talk directly to Mouth Gilvas.
His quest arrow is not activated until Tralise pays you, though. And HE is the one who sets you on "Turn the Page," and he's the one you have to whom you have to turn-in the five BOUND pages. To bind the five pages, once you have five, you have to "Use" them, however that is achieved with whatever control (keyboard or gamepad) you use.

Once you give him the bound pages, he will ask which sister should receive the pages.
Choosing "Give the pages to Yensa" is a "vote" for Yensa.
Choosing "Give the pages to Tralise" is a "vote" for Tralise.
And that completes the "Turn the Page" quest.

"Turn the Page" is the only quest that will advance the event progress meter.

Tralises's quest, that comes up after she pays you for her father's quest, sends you off in a different direction.
Her quest will not advance the meter.

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The pages (Esoteric Parchments) drop from resource nodes, chests, thieves troves, enemies... like Gilvas says, everywhere.
And "Turn the Page" is absolutely soloable.

spartaxoxo

Elsonso wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Just wanted to add, Bastian Nymic is absolutely soloable. I would recommend solo players who want to be able to do a lot of group content by themselves to look up some good solo builds. The only content in this game that requires a group is trials and a handful of dungeons that have forced group requirements.

There is a difference between "soloable" and "average player can solo". I hazard the suggestion that some groups can't even complete content others consider to be soloable. This game has a wide range of player skills and capabilities, and content like Bastion Nymic and Endless Archive seem effective for highlighting this.

It is perfectly fine for players to drop the Bastion Nymic event quest when they come across it, solo or grouped. As a daily quest, there are better options, and it really only make sense if already doing the normal daily quest for Bastion Nymic. Then, at least, you are doing two quests concurrently rather than spending all that time on the event quest by itself.

I'm not saying everyone can solo it. But many casual players would benefit from knowing about some simple tweaks they can make, using gear from content they are probably doing, to make the game a lot easier for themselves. There are solo builds out there that are designed around casual play.

A lot of people are under the impression they would need trial gear or insane DPS, and it's not the case. Even some crafted sets can drastically up what people are capable of soloing.

thorwyn

If something is not soloable - I will just not do it and move on with my life.

However, you did not move on with your life, you felt obliged to creat a thread, letting the world know that you will not do the event (as if that's somehow important for anyone other than yourself).

Danikat

I was able to do all the event quests on my level 45-46 DK who has the beginings of a tank build and so does very little damage.

For everything up to Bastion Nymic I was able to do it alongside whoever happened to be doing it at the same time, as normal for open-world and delve stuff. When I got to the dungeon and realised it was a group dungeon and not another delve I asked my guild if anyone would be willing to help my terrible low-level character get through it and 3 people volunteered, all they asked me to do was share the quest. My character died twice while fighting bosses, but the other 3 players were able to finish them and no one complained because I'd told them from the start I was on a low level character in bad gear who couldn't do much, so they knew to expect that.

If I'd known when I started it involved a dungeon I'd have done it on a different character, but I've been using events to level this one up and by the time I realised it might be a problem I didn't want to have to re-do the whole quest.

But as other people have said you don't need to do that one to get tickets or contribute to the community event, it's an optional extra.

SeaGtGruff

It's okay to skip events you aren't interested in or are unable or unwilling to participate in because the activities involved are too difficult for you or simply not enjoyable to you.

However, in case you'd like to reap some benefits from this particular event but aren't sure how, here are some tips:

HOW TO GET EVENT TICKETS

You can earn 2 tickets per day. To earn them, you must accept, complete, and turn in a daily quest from one of the three daily quest givers in Necrom. The daily delve quest would be the easiest one to solo; but if there are a lot of other players on while you're playing then the daily world boss quest might be the quickest one to complete, because all of the players will likely kill the boss pretty quickly, and you should get credit for completing the quest even if you did hardly any damage to the boss, so you might be able to turn in the quest and get your events tickets and golden event coffer more quickly than if you had soloed the daily delve quest.

HOW TO GET EVENT COFFERS

You can get 1 golden event coffer per day, when you turn in a daily quest and get your event tickets. Turning in additional daily quests will award you purple event coffers, but you can also get purple event coffers by looting containers, looting treasure chests, looting thieves troves, looting the corpses of mobs and bosses that you kill, or even just harvesting resource nodes-- including fresh water nodes and water bags. Thus, you can amass a nice collection of purple coffers without having to do any group activities-- just run around the Telvanni Peninsula zone killing and looting trash mobs and harvesting resource nodes.

HOW TO CONTRIBUTE TOWARD THE COMMUNITY GOALS

Talk to the Mouth NPC each day to accept the "Turn the Page" daily quest from him. At first he will be near the Battlegrounds camp outside Necrom, and you'll be able to get his quest after you talk to the other 3 NPCs (the father and his 2 daughters) to bear witness to the father opening the tome to discover its secrets. But on subsequent days the Mouth will not be there; he will instead be closer to the city gates, beside the Impresario or event merchant. To complete his daily quest, simply find and combine (use) 5 Enchanted Parchments, then talk to him and he'll let you decide which of the 2 daughters you want the pages to go to. Completing the quest helps the meter progress each day, and deciding which daughter you want the pages to go to will cast your vote for either the tome furnishing or the music box furnishing.

HOW TO GET ENCHANTED PARCHMENTS

The Enchanted Parchments drop from a wide variety of sources-- basically, from any source that can also drop a purple event coffer. If you're playing solo, just kill and loot trash mobs, harvest resource nodes, and loot treasure chests, and pretty soon you should have more than enough Enchanted Parchments to combine.

DO YOU NEED TO KILL HERALD SEEKERS AND/OR COMPLETE THE BASTION NYMIC?

No, neither of those two activities are required-- unless you want to complete one of the quests which involve going to the Bastion Nymic, which are entirely OPTIONAL as far as the event is concerned.

DP99

I agree that it should not be a part of the event.

It's unexpected that the first part of her quest is to go to a couple of delves and the Gorne public dungeon to find three relics to save her father, all easily soloable, but very time consuming.

And, then out of the blue, she asks you to go get one more relic from the BN! But, you can't just go there like it's some kind of special solo event version to just get in and get out in a newly created specific portion of the dungeon like they've done with other events and new chapters. NO! You have to go into town and talk to the NPC to start the regular old BN daily that has always been there and go through all that mess just to complete this new event daily on top of it.!

It's confusing and convoluted and just very poorly designed!

That said, I slogged through it as there were plenty of people on PCNA day one to actually get it accomplished for once.

Got two or three of the seekers done in a row for their keys, with others being around doing them, but had to wander around a bit to join in on finding a fourth one to kill.

After finally getting that done, it was a matter of just waiting around at the appropriate portal and shouting for a group to get into it.

Once that was done, it was a simple matter of just following the leader to get it done, and even with a random group, it wasn't that difficult, but I can't say whether or not anyone in the group, including myself was "Better DPS" than anyone else, but we all did our part to make the kills and got through it with no one making any complaints.

The only issue was that we didn't actually finish the actual regular daily quest, we just went in and did it up to the point to get the relic for the event quest and the group broke up. So, I ended up just dropping the regular quest after completing the event one to save the father from the curse, because I wasn't going to bother trying to get another group to go back into the dungeon. I wasn't wasting anymore time on it, I was moving on to the other quest to find the pages, and needed to figure out how to do that.

SeaGtGruff

As far as that last step of getting the phylactory or however it's spelled, I noticed that you don't actually need to defeat the boss to get it; if the boss kills you and resets, you can just go over to where the phylactory is while you're resurrecting, then grab it after you rematerialize. You should be far enough away from the boss that it will leave you alone as long as you don't attack it. So just grab the thingy and port back to Necrom.

Grizzbeorn

DP99 wrote: »

I agree that it should not be a part of the event.

And it's not.

Tralise's long daily quest (which includes Bastion Nymic) is not needed in order to contribute to the event.
I explained that above.
It *IS* a daily quest you can do during the event, but it is not required; it does not advance the event progress meters.

The Mouth Gilvas quest, "Turn the Page," is THE "event daily quest."
It is the only quest that grants progress toward the three main event rewards, and the secondary bonus reward that we vote for.

Yas78

Still confusing.
I "voted" for Tralise and she gives me daily quest "The Cost of Knowledge" to go to nymic, which I wont do, because I always die trying to solo it and not begging for group.
What would happen if I voted for Yesra, would she also give me same quest to go to nymic? Or other quest I can actually do alone?
The other guy, Gilvas, gives daily quest to collect 5 Esoteric Parchments, which I did by gathering herbs and wood, what is my reward?
The "progress" yall talking about - how do I fill it and where do I check it? Do I need to speak to someone to see this progress, or is it somewhere in the UI?
Look, honestly, if it takes several days to figure out 'event' mechanics, its definitely not the best design.