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Is gifting back with u40?

Grendalism
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From yesterday’s u40 patch notes, I noticed this:

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…so does this mean, if there is how a limit on gifted items, that gifting is to be re-enabled?
(Else why make the change/state this in the patch notes?)
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  • Grendalism
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    *now a limit…
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  • Daoin
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    god please no, and looks like the fix is on outgoing gifts and the logging issue.
  • Aleris
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    so 500 lifetime gift to give to people for account?
  • Trier_Sero
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    Aleris wrote: »
    so 500 lifetime gift to give to people for account?

    It says "at a time"
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  • Aislinna
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    Somebody sent more then 500 gifts at the same time?

    nothing-suspicious-here-aih8qi.jpg

  • LesserCircle
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    Aislinna wrote: »
    Somebody sent more then 500 gifts at the same time?

    nothing-suspicious-here-aih8qi.jpg

    Lol right? What's up with the 500 limit, ins't that too many?
  • LokiPagan
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    Uhhhhh. Well, that seems shady...kinda feel like they shouldn't have patched that, maybe it's a good thing they weren't able to log in. Only people sending more than 500 gifts at once would be people selling items on a website and then gifting them in bulk. Or madmen. Madmen spamming cheap gifts.
  • Kite42
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    I could see guild structures having occasional high volumes of gifting maybe, but if "500 at a time" is a thing, then that's plain RMT lol.
  • PieMaster1
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    Kite42 wrote: »
    I could see guild structures having occasional high volumes of gifting maybe, but if "500 at a time" is a thing, then that's plain RMT lol.

    I wonder if they mean 500 crowns at a time? Only logical explanation. No way in hell there could ever be 500 transactions at a time from one account, that's not even possible lol
    Edited by PieMaster1 on September 19, 2023 12:18PM
  • Dr_Con
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    LokiPagan wrote: »
    Uhhhhh. Well, that seems shady...kinda feel like they shouldn't have patched that, maybe it's a good thing they weren't able to log in. Only people sending more than 500 gifts at once would be people selling items on a website and then gifting them in bulk. Or madmen. Madmen spamming cheap gifts.

    The only people I could see it being an issue for are the streamers who do a lot of giveaways. Other than that, yeah sus as Sheo.

    Nevermind, no streamer would have 500 outgoing, unclaimed gifts. This seems deliberate.
    Edited by Dr_Con on September 19, 2023 2:55PM
  • RagnarSw
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    I wonder if returned gifts still count as outgoing. I know there's quite a few people who buy gifts and send to a second account and then return them to their main. They then sell them at a later point in time for more than 10x original price. Like people selling houses for over 100M gold etc. They might also do it for real money too. They're taking advantage of ZoS having the rotation stores because some items take years to come back.
  • Shihp00
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    can a millionaire test this and gift me 500 items from the store tyia
  • Wolf_Eye
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    RagnarSw wrote: »
    I wonder if returned gifts still count as outgoing. I know there's quite a few people who buy gifts and send to a second account and then return them to their main. They then sell them at a later point in time for more than 10x original price. Like people selling houses for over 100M gold etc. They might also do it for real money too. They're taking advantage of ZoS having the rotation stores because some items take years to come back.

    I was under the impression that returned gifts can't be sent to a new user, it's just a refund of the crowns. Is this incorrect? I've never been on the sending side of gifting much, so I don't know.
  • ForzaRammer
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    This looks like protection against ddos attack than protection against fraud :D
  • virtus753
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    Wolf_Eye wrote: »
    RagnarSw wrote: »
    I wonder if returned gifts still count as outgoing. I know there's quite a few people who buy gifts and send to a second account and then return them to their main. They then sell them at a later point in time for more than 10x original price. Like people selling houses for over 100M gold etc. They might also do it for real money too. They're taking advantage of ZoS having the rotation stores because some items take years to come back.

    I was under the impression that returned gifts can't be sent to a new user, it's just a refund of the crowns. Is this incorrect? I've never been on the sending side of gifting much, so I don't know.

    Returned/expired gifts can be sent to a different player - or could, when gifting was enabled. They cannot be accepted by the original gifter, though. So if I bought a DLC and sent it to someone, but they didn't accept, it would expire back to my gifting inventory. It would stay there indefinitely and I could resend it to someone else, but I couldn't take that DLC for my own account.

    ZOS doesn't want to issue refunds unless players specifically request it. They certainly wouldn't automate it. They want the crowns to be used up so that people buy new crowns.
  • Wolf_Eye
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    virtus753 wrote: »
    Wolf_Eye wrote: »
    RagnarSw wrote: »
    I wonder if returned gifts still count as outgoing. I know there's quite a few people who buy gifts and send to a second account and then return them to their main. They then sell them at a later point in time for more than 10x original price. Like people selling houses for over 100M gold etc. They might also do it for real money too. They're taking advantage of ZoS having the rotation stores because some items take years to come back.

    I was under the impression that returned gifts can't be sent to a new user, it's just a refund of the crowns. Is this incorrect? I've never been on the sending side of gifting much, so I don't know.

    Returned/expired gifts can be sent to a different player - or could, when gifting was enabled. They cannot be accepted by the original gifter, though. So if I bought a DLC and sent it to someone, but they didn't accept, it would expire back to my gifting inventory. It would stay there indefinitely and I could resend it to someone else, but I couldn't take that DLC for my own account.

    ZOS doesn't want to issue refunds unless players specifically request it. They certainly wouldn't automate it. They want the crowns to be used up so that people buy new crowns.

    Thanks for this insight. It was really helpful. So it seems there really could be a bunch of players who could sell stuff that was no longer available in the crown store (at the point of selling). I could definitely see how people would take advantage of that.
  • belial5221_ESO
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    I'm guessing the limit is cause of crown crate gifting,and ppl selling lots,like the 3rd party gold/crown seller sites.Limit should be alot lower per day.Like 10 gifts per day lmit.
  • CrashTest
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    Gifting is working on PTS so hopefully it goes live.
  • Maitsukas
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    CrashTest wrote: »
    Gifting is working on PTS so hopefully it goes live.

    Thing is, PTS Crown Store items are all 1 Crown, so it isn't really worth it to disable gifting on that server. Plus, the PTS Crowns are reset daily to 5500.
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  • Necrotech_Master
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    Maitsukas wrote: »
    CrashTest wrote: »
    Gifting is working on PTS so hopefully it goes live.

    Thing is, PTS Crown Store items are all 1 Crown, so it isn't really worth it to disable gifting on that server. Plus, the PTS Crowns are reset daily to 5500.

    if only that was bugged and got put on live for even a day lol
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