PVP Population on PS EU dying

MISTFORMBZZZ

During prime time max 2 bars each, at 10pm yesterday two alliances with 1 bar, one alliance with 0 bar.

Is zos aware of this?

If pvp is dead and unpopulated like this, even more people stop playing, in my guild many people dont even see a point in logging in anymore.

Best would be to merge PS EU and NA server, if that would be possible.

reazea

ZOS has not given PvP any priority or attention for years now. It's why only a few people on my friends list still log in regularly.

AstroST

In PC EU is a lot better lol
I remember like a couple years ago having to queue 1 hour before to do my guild run, now not all alliances are even poplocked.
They have destroyed PvP with their choices. Better to move on my friend.

MISTFORMBZZZ

AstroST wrote: »

In PC EU is a lot better lol
I remember like a couple years ago having to queue 1 hour before to do my guild run, now not all alliances are even poplocked.
They have destroyed PvP with their choices. Better to move on my friend.

yes back in the days always 3 bars and pop locked. This was with old servers, when it was laggy.
Now we have new servers but people quitt on mass, because there is no new content but loads of other games to play.

Its sad to see and tbh its not fun to play cyrodiil with 1 bar each, which we have rn at not even 10 pm uk time.

xFocused

Your guys's best bet is just switch to the NA server sadly. NA server is 3 bars across all alliances every week and weekend night, lots of fights and fun

a_u_s_t_y

MISTFORMBZZZ wrote: »

During prime time max 2 bars each, at 10pm yesterday two alliances with 1 bar, one alliance with 0 bar.

Is zos aware of this?

If pvp is dead and unpopulated like this, even more people stop playing, in my guild many people dont even see a point in logging in anymore.

Best would be to merge PS EU and NA server, if that would be possible.

Reds stay up all night to night cap everything so of course their population is low at prime time, they all are sleeping

Overamera

Just switch to PC. Whole different game than eso on console. Much better

Lanxon

@Overamera Switch to PS Console. Whole different game than eso on PC. Much better


PVP on console has become very boring...
* Constant battles against tower runners
* Constant battles against red/blue ball groups

MISTFORMBZZZ

They should just merge the servers. Same on xbox where the population is lower aparently.
I would 100% not start from scratch, buy all dlc's a second time and farm everything again on NA server in a game with a decreasing population.
Its on the devs to do something to keep the game alive.

Heals_With_Orbs

Lanxon wrote: »

@Overamera Switch to PS Console. Whole different game than eso on PC. Much better


PVP on console has become very boring...
* Constant battles against tower runners
* Constant battles against red/blue ball groups

PVP on PC GH EU has become a little boring too.

In fact its been mainly yellow and blue ball groups, not red ones, and a lot of players have stopped playing because of that or are completely bored of it.
Constant tower runners - yes agreed
Constant keep runners running up and down stairs and moving around wooden crates
Garbage 37-43K HP EXTREMELY boring tank meta, and silly troll tanks that need 20 odd players to take down
Stuck in combat most of the time because of above points (a bug more or less since launch)
many other things are contributing to this mess.

It could be sorted very easily, or at least something offered better than it is

ZOS are unwilling to address the issues that have tainted pvp for years, and they dont listen to the community

Remiem

Ngl it's pretty funny to see someone with that proud "BALL GROUP" in his signature complain about PvP being dead on his server.

Freilauftomate

Remiem wrote: »

Ngl it's pretty funny to see someone with that proud "BALL GROUP" in his signature complain about PvP being dead on his server.

Funny? I don't think it's funny. Everyone is leaving the game. Many have left long ago, long before gray host was shut down for half a year (on ps eu). Guildmasters are giving up because new players don't stay long enough to get good, and old players don't want to play anymore.

I think it's sad.

But that's what they wanted, right? They refused to fix performance and bugs for way too long. The combat system got a bunch of unwanted changes (and new bugs) instead of needed improvements. And in their live streams you could see how much they care about their pvp community.

Update 39 (the bugfix update) was a nice idea. But it was too little too late. And it went in a completely wrong direction.

I honestly believe there is nothing they can do at this point. Not this crew. Not like this.

In a couple of interviews the devs have said it would take them 2 years to produce new content. And they are not working on new pvp content at the moment. I was hoping for a big pvp dlc one day, especially after they accidentally fixed performance with the server update, but i guess that will never happen. Soon there will be no pvp community left at all. Cyrodiil will be an empty wasteland like imperial city. Most of the time it is already.

The only funny thing about all of this are the players blaming each other for the state of this game. Bullying each other ingame, in forums, on youtube, discord, sometimes even real life... Like organized groups, snipers, gankers, bombers, tanks, healers, small scalers, zerglings, nightcappers, towerrunners, treehuggers, stonejumpers, leechers, useless warchiefs, unemployed no-lifers, wannabe führers, women, communists, cheaters, exploiters, good players, bad players, angry players, way too serious pro players, old players, young players, streamers, youtubers, creeps, stalkers, whisperers, zonechat warriors, trolls and whatever scapegoat you are able to come up with, have anything to do with the negligence and disrespect the devs and producers are showing for this potentially awesome gamemode. Ask them to fix the game, and stop being angry at each other! Please.

Woodenplank

OP: Proud Ball grouper! Me and the gang love running around Cyrodiil manipulating PVP objectives to endlessly fish for kills until we grow bored and dumb an Elder Scroll in lake Rumare or whatever. And even on the new servers our antics still cause campaign-wide
Also OP: Why did people stop enjoying PVP?


Okay but in all seriousness, it's the devs' job to make large scale changes to the game, if they want to push meta in any direction. Sure you can count on a handful of people to not "abuse" the best new meta sets, but for every person going in that direction, there are 10 more who'll ask you to "hate the game, not the player," so it doesn't matter.

Best thing to do is probably to keep up active discussion here on the forums, and at the risk of getting <SNIPPED>, stop throwing money at ZOS? I know PVP'ers probably aren't their main source of income, but as long as they're raking it in, that's incentive to... well just keep doing what they're doing?


P.s. must also give some credit to BG3 and Starfield launch. People can, after all, at most play one game at a time - and amazingly some people spend time doing other things than video games too, so the population can't always be equally high.

Freilauftomate

No credit to Starfield. No!

Microsoft bought ZOS and Bethesda because they were afraid Starfield would be a Playstation exclusive. Now it's the other way around and ESO had to suffer because of the sale. No thanks.

geonsocal

this is the only mmorpg with pvp i've ever played...

i'm amazed i'm still here since 2015...honestly - i'm surprised the game is still here...

for those of you in the know - how much longer is this thing expected to continue?

MISTFORMBZZZ

oh i forgot, ball groupers arent allowed to complain 😂
Human second class with no wishes allowed for a better game

edward_frigidhands

MISTFORMBZZZ wrote: »

During prime time max 2 bars each, at 10pm yesterday two alliances with 1 bar, one alliance with 0 bar.

Is zos aware of this?

If pvp is dead and unpopulated like this, even more people stop playing, in my guild many people dont even see a point in logging in anymore.

Best would be to merge PS EU and NA server, if that would be possible.

It would make more sense to merge PC EU with console EU because of similar latency rather than PC NA with PC EU.

Freilauftomate

With the bad performance this game has most of the time, you don't really feel the higher latency when you are playing on a server on the other side of the globe. A lot of PS EU players went to PS NA last year.

Please don't merge PC and consoles, that would be a disaster for console players (addons, hardware, cheating software, economy...)

MISTFORMBZZZ

the performance on ps eu is totally fine, since the hardware upgrade. Just the population is dying rapidly.

WoppaBoem

There was no development on the PVP game wise but meta's kept changing multiple build and classes where unique and required adapting and playstyle changes. Now for 4 updates already is stagnant nothing new. No skill changes, just procs and afk damage add the insane healing that is ongoing from healers game is just ...... fill in any blank you want. The real reason is why keep playing this game???? what do you get out of it

BetweenMidgets

Unfortunately there does not appear to be any PVP advocates on the ZoS team. It is a sad reality that there are precious few employees that even actively play the game.

I think the only one I've ever seen out in the wild, doing things, was a guy from the housing team.

Besides that, Lambert streamed for a while and while I still resent his wife's statement (and I think you can understand that the only reason she'd have that opinion since she ISNT a ZoS employee, is if she heard it from her husband), I was actually pleased that there was someone from ZoS that the community could see participating in the game and could interact with, to some degree.

Kram8ion

I think the point of this post was about low population on ps eu
Which is where I play myself in Australia and apart from the first couple of years it’s always low population for me so I try and get into the early hours of the morning on my days off but that’s not a complaint however suggestions coming in about just switching to pc na or pc doesn’t really help that much, no one nowadays is going to start from scratch again on another server, granted there are some who have but they are few so consoles want merging of servers it makes sense
Whether it’s possible or not isn’t really explained

MISTFORMBZZZ

Kram8ion wrote: »

I think the point of this post was about low population on ps eu
Which is where I play myself in Australia and apart from the first couple of years it’s always low population for me so I try and get into the early hours of the morning on my days off but that’s not a complaint however suggestions coming in about just switching to pc na or pc doesn’t really help that much, no one nowadays is going to start from scratch again on another server, granted there are some who have but they are few so consoles want merging of servers it makes sense
Whether it’s possible or not isn’t really explained

I love the game and i love playing it, but as you said starting from scratch is really not an option.
They should merge Xbox EU and PS EU & Xbox NA and PS NA or just Xbox EU and Xbox NA & PS EU and PS NA if any possible.

Dont merge pc and consoles i understand (because of addons, hardware and the points counted by Freilaufautomate) but they really should merge the console servers.

Its a fact the consoles have less population then pc and its a fact EU has less population then NA on whichever platform.
Now at this state its so drastical noticeable, it makes the game not enjoyable and unplayable.
And its not only pvp where you can feel, there is less people.

Less people online in trading guilds, less activity in overland, lets not speak about the few people running arround in craglorn these days and please lets not speak about the ,,group finder".
Wherever you look at, only so few people and it wont become better.

There needs to be an adjustment.
I understanf zos can only so far controll, how many people play their game or certain parts of their game.
But they deffo see the numbers shrinking and a server merge would help to stop the ship sinking imo.