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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/653550/

HA Builds After U39

ACamaroGuy
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What will be the set-up for the PvE Oakensoul HA build after U39? For solo or group play, PvE.
• Sergeant's Mail, Storm Master & one piece Slimecraw
• Sergeant's Mail, Ansuul's Torment & one piece Slimecraw
• Sergeant's Mail, Deadly Strike & one piece Slimecraw
• Sergeant's Mail, Kinras's Wrath & one piece Slimecraw (added late)
• Sergeant's Mail, (something else) & one piece Slimecraw
Edited by ACamaroGuy on August 20, 2023 2:16AM
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  • Soarora
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    It'll be the same as it has been, won't it? I thought the staff was getting changed not the sets.
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  • FrancisCrawford
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    ACamaroGuy wrote: »
    What will be the set-up for the PvE Oakensoul HA build after U39?
    • Sergeant's Mail, Storm Master & one piece Slimecraw
    • Sergeant's Mail, Ansuul's Torment & one piece Slimecraw
    • Sergeant's Mail, Deadly Strike & one piece Slimecraw
    • Sergeant's Mail, (something else) & one piece Slimecraw

    Ansuul's Torment looks weak.The 3 piece line is useless, and the 5 piece bonus is rarely above 3.5% for the heavy attack part of DPS.

    What is the base number for lightning heavy attack damage with plausible stats? I'm guessing it's low enough that the obvious choice is to use a second heavy attack set. If so, then which one to use would depend on things like:

    Can you use the full penetration bonus from light armor?
    Are you comfortable committing to being in melee range?
    Can you put a stamina skill in your rotation without much pain?

    If you're talking about a sorcerer in a good trial group, I'm guessing the answers are No, Yes, and No. In that case -- Undaunted Infiltrator?
  • ACamaroGuy
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    Soarora wrote: »
    It'll be the same as it has been, won't it? I thought the staff was getting changed not the sets.

    I was asking because with the staff changes I didn't know if a set like Deadly would boost the HA numbers better than Storm Master or if Sergeant's Mail would help boost damage when using Ansuul's Torment. I'm not sure how the staff changes are going to effect the sets we use to the HA builds.
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  • Zodiarkslayer
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    Sergeant's Mail and Noble Duelist, if you SOLO, probably with Slimecraw. That depends on the class, though.
    And Storm Master is still okay in Groups.

    Gear won't change. And single target Lightning Staff actually gets buffed by a little. The cleave is good as gone, though.
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  • Necrotech_Master
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    one of my toons is running sergeant + undaunted infiltrator

    i was doing an experimental 2 bar HA build without oakensoul and sourcing the empower from mages guild (this character is also a necromancer so degeneration is giving me major sorcery/brutality, empower, and the undaunted infiltrator HA buff because its a magicka skill)

    the nice thing with this setup is that the undaunted infiltrator bonus and the mages guild empower buff have the same duration

    so my usual rotation with this setup is degeneration->blastbones->HA->(repeat blastbones->HA until degeneration needs refresh)
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  • RaptorRodeoGod
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    On sorc I'm going to try Undaunted Infiltrator, Oakensoul, Maw of the Infernal, and vMA staff, to try to get some better AoE. Probably won't hit as high, but you can't really rely on HA for AoE anymore.
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  • FrancisCrawford
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    one of my toons is running sergeant + undaunted infiltrator

    i was doing an experimental 2 bar HA build without oakensoul and sourcing the empower from mages guild (this character is also a necromancer so degeneration is giving me major sorcery/brutality, empower, and the undaunted infiltrator HA buff because its a magicka skill)

    the nice thing with this setup is that the undaunted infiltrator bonus and the mages guild empower buff have the same duration

    so my usual rotation with this setup is degeneration->blastbones->HA->(repeat blastbones->HA until degeneration needs refresh)

    If you're mainly using 2 skills, what's the point of foregoing Oakensoul?
  • Necrotech_Master
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    one of my toons is running sergeant + undaunted infiltrator

    i was doing an experimental 2 bar HA build without oakensoul and sourcing the empower from mages guild (this character is also a necromancer so degeneration is giving me major sorcery/brutality, empower, and the undaunted infiltrator HA buff because its a magicka skill)

    the nice thing with this setup is that the undaunted infiltrator bonus and the mages guild empower buff have the same duration

    so my usual rotation with this setup is degeneration->blastbones->HA->(repeat blastbones->HA until degeneration needs refresh)

    If you're mainly using 2 skills, what's the point of foregoing Oakensoul?

    i use a resto staff on back bar, and destro on front bar

    so i can double as support or dmg, and still get the heavy attack bonuses on the resto heavies

    not having the back bar is way too limiting for me, the only character i use oaken on is a WW since that is basically a 1 bar build anyway
    plays PC/NA
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