cheating in eso

mook-eb16_ESO

@ZOS_GinaBruno Gina, players in Gray Host EU pc have been trying to report a player who keeps exploiting scrolls out out of keeps and from even behind the the gates when they are locked. There have been multiple reports to customer services, but they are not taking any action. today its the 3rd time this player come on and exploited this week. please can you escalate this issue. many Thanks

DUTCH_REAPER

PC NA server GH player here. I have sent multiple tickets with videos and screen shots and detailed explanation how to achieve specific exploits in pvp and they still haven’t corrected the exploits. [snip] We just get auto replied when we submit them.

[edited for minor bashing]

jerj6925

I think pvp is done in this game as in there will be no further anything regarding pvp. I bet if this was an exploit allowing a pve dungeon or trial to be completed in 3 minutes they would have that patched up fast... oh and the in game store.

On a side note the cheating in pvp is growing each day as more and more people realize nothing is being done about it.

Marcus684

jerj6925 wrote: »

I think pvp is done in this game as in there will be no further anything regarding pvp. I bet if this was an exploit allowing a pve dungeon or trial to be completed in 3 minutes they would have that patched up fast... oh and the in game store.

On a side note the cheating in pvp is growing each day as more and more people realize nothing is being done about it.

I think you're right. The number of "super-skilled" players seems to be on the rise, which always seems to happen until there's a wave of bans, after which most of them disappear or mysteriously become less skilled. My favorite time to PvP is right after a ban wave.

Its weird that ZOS is so quick to address exploits in dungeons and trials but takes forever to fix pvp exploits, if they ever actually do. How long has lighting staff splash damage been "overperforming"? Maybe it's hard for them to pick actual, legitimate exploit reports out of the mountains of "They're cheating because I lost!" reports.

Necrotech_Master

Marcus684 wrote: »

jerj6925 wrote: »

I think pvp is done in this game as in there will be no further anything regarding pvp. I bet if this was an exploit allowing a pve dungeon or trial to be completed in 3 minutes they would have that patched up fast... oh and the in game store.

On a side note the cheating in pvp is growing each day as more and more people realize nothing is being done about it.

I think you're right. The number of "super-skilled" players seems to be on the rise, which always seems to happen until there's a wave of bans, after which most of them disappear or mysteriously become less skilled. My favorite time to PvP is right after a ban wave.

Its weird that ZOS is so quick to address exploits in dungeons and trials but takes forever to fix pvp exploits, if they ever actually do. How long has lighting staff splash damage been "overperforming"? Maybe it's hard for them to pick actual, legitimate exploit reports out of the mountains of "They're cheating because I lost!" reports.

the lightning staff trifocus thing is getting changed next update (on monday), and limit the spash to only the 3rd tick of the heavy

Marcus684

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

Marcus684 wrote: »

jerj6925 wrote: »

I think pvp is done in this game as in there will be no further anything regarding pvp. I bet if this was an exploit allowing a pve dungeon or trial to be completed in 3 minutes they would have that patched up fast... oh and the in game store.

On a side note the cheating in pvp is growing each day as more and more people realize nothing is being done about it.

I think you're right. The number of "super-skilled" players seems to be on the rise, which always seems to happen until there's a wave of bans, after which most of them disappear or mysteriously become less skilled. My favorite time to PvP is right after a ban wave.

Its weird that ZOS is so quick to address exploits in dungeons and trials but takes forever to fix pvp exploits, if they ever actually do. How long has lighting staff splash damage been "overperforming"? Maybe it's hard for them to pick actual, legitimate exploit reports out of the mountains of "They're cheating because I lost!" reports.

the lightning staff trifocus thing is getting changed next update (on monday), and limit the spash to only the 3rd tick of the heavy

That'll be nice if it actually fixes the issue.

Necrotech_Master

Marcus684 wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

Marcus684 wrote: »

jerj6925 wrote: »

I think pvp is done in this game as in there will be no further anything regarding pvp. I bet if this was an exploit allowing a pve dungeon or trial to be completed in 3 minutes they would have that patched up fast... oh and the in game store.

On a side note the cheating in pvp is growing each day as more and more people realize nothing is being done about it.

I think you're right. The number of "super-skilled" players seems to be on the rise, which always seems to happen until there's a wave of bans, after which most of them disappear or mysteriously become less skilled. My favorite time to PvP is right after a ban wave.

Its weird that ZOS is so quick to address exploits in dungeons and trials but takes forever to fix pvp exploits, if they ever actually do. How long has lighting staff splash damage been "overperforming"? Maybe it's hard for them to pick actual, legitimate exploit reports out of the mountains of "They're cheating because I lost!" reports.

the lightning staff trifocus thing is getting changed next update (on monday), and limit the spash to only the 3rd tick of the heavy

That'll be nice if it actually fixes the issue.

i dont think its actually fixing the issue, just reducing the overall amount of dmg that can be splashed to make it easier to avoid

so that final tick will still likely hurt in pvp if it splashes from a NPC target, but its still an improvement over all 3 ticks doing the enormous splash dmg

TybaltKaine

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

Marcus684 wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

Marcus684 wrote: »

jerj6925 wrote: »

I think pvp is done in this game as in there will be no further anything regarding pvp. I bet if this was an exploit allowing a pve dungeon or trial to be completed in 3 minutes they would have that patched up fast... oh and the in game store.

On a side note the cheating in pvp is growing each day as more and more people realize nothing is being done about it.

I think you're right. The number of "super-skilled" players seems to be on the rise, which always seems to happen until there's a wave of bans, after which most of them disappear or mysteriously become less skilled. My favorite time to PvP is right after a ban wave.

Its weird that ZOS is so quick to address exploits in dungeons and trials but takes forever to fix pvp exploits, if they ever actually do. How long has lighting staff splash damage been "overperforming"? Maybe it's hard for them to pick actual, legitimate exploit reports out of the mountains of "They're cheating because I lost!" reports.

the lightning staff trifocus thing is getting changed next update (on monday), and limit the spash to only the 3rd tick of the heavy

That'll be nice if it actually fixes the issue.

i dont think its actually fixing the issue, just reducing the overall amount of dmg that can be splashed to make it easier to avoid

so that final tick will still likely hurt in pvp if it splashes from a NPC target, but its still an improvement over all 3 ticks doing the enormous splash dmg

What it also means is that Lightning HA players will be able to fight bosses in IC cross alliance without damaging people they aren't intending to. Just stop the channel before the final tick to avoid the splash and you won't hit opposing faction players who are helping burn down a boss at 2 am when there are only 5 people playing.

rpa

I'd prefer the splash just would not hit enemy players at all to PvE nerf in next patch.
Edit: I still play with100 - 999+ms lag. Oakensorc is afaik only build which is viable for any challenging enemy for me. If I played IC - which I do not - I could not avoid splashing other faction if I wanted.

mook-eb16_ESO

What has "How long has lighting staff splash damage been "overperforming"?" this got to do with actual hacking and exploiting?

West93

[snip] Please continue on topic

[edited for trolling]

Warhawke_80

One thing I have been seeing in Public Dungeons is Bosses just dying like they were one shotted with no one around every time we move toward one it just dies this happened for several hours in one of the Orsinium public dungeons.

I'm fairly new so I could be missing something

Skall66

mook-eb16_ESO wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno Gina, players in Gray Host EU pc have been trying to report a player who keeps exploiting scrolls out out of keeps and from even behind the the gates when they are locked. There have been multiple reports to customer services, but they are not taking any action. today its the 3rd time this player come on and exploited this week. please can you escalate this issue. many Thanks

It seems to happen on Xbox EU too, EP player taking scroll in Rayles without damaging the keep.

jle30303

Skall66 wrote: »

mook-eb16_ESO wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno Gina, players in Gray Host EU pc have been trying to report a player who keeps exploiting scrolls out out of keeps and from even behind the the gates when they are locked. There have been multiple reports to customer services, but they are not taking any action. today its the 3rd time this player come on and exploited this week. please can you escalate this issue. many Thanks

It seems to happen on Xbox EU too, EP player taking scroll in Rayles without damaging the keep.

Are they *staying* in the keep from when it HAS previously been damaged, but the attackers were repelled, but one attacker managed to stay behind inside the inner keep, in stealth mode?

Is it even possible that a person could originally be DC, and thus could be inside the keep "legitimately", then uses an alliance change token to switch and take the scroll from the inside while there are no players there, only comparatively easily killable guards?

Skall66

he wasn't staying in the keep, he took the scroll one first time, but was killed and DC bring back the scroll in the same keep, then the same player took the scroll again without the keep being under attack inbetween.

As for the use of alliance change token, I think you have to be on the characters screen to use it and reconnecting brings you to the alliance base, and it would be a very expensive way to troll.

jbrianj

I've also seen cheats where people are being intentionally baited into keeps using some sort of exploit, and then the player who got baited gets banned for cheating for "further investigation".

From what I've seen most of these bans have been reversed after investigation, but be extremely careful in Cyrodiil and always keep some sort of Shadowplay running in the background for when something strange happens so that you can prove your innocence to ZoS. Also do not try to kill anyone if you somehow get exploited into a closed keep.

jbrianj

TybaltKaine wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

Marcus684 wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

Marcus684 wrote: »

jerj6925 wrote: »

I think pvp is done in this game as in there will be no further anything regarding pvp. I bet if this was an exploit allowing a pve dungeon or trial to be completed in 3 minutes they would have that patched up fast... oh and the in game store.

On a side note the cheating in pvp is growing each day as more and more people realize nothing is being done about it.

I think you're right. The number of "super-skilled" players seems to be on the rise, which always seems to happen until there's a wave of bans, after which most of them disappear or mysteriously become less skilled. My favorite time to PvP is right after a ban wave.

Its weird that ZOS is so quick to address exploits in dungeons and trials but takes forever to fix pvp exploits, if they ever actually do. How long has lighting staff splash damage been "overperforming"? Maybe it's hard for them to pick actual, legitimate exploit reports out of the mountains of "They're cheating because I lost!" reports.

the lightning staff trifocus thing is getting changed next update (on monday), and limit the spash to only the 3rd tick of the heavy

That'll be nice if it actually fixes the issue.

i dont think its actually fixing the issue, just reducing the overall amount of dmg that can be splashed to make it easier to avoid

so that final tick will still likely hurt in pvp if it splashes from a NPC target, but its still an improvement over all 3 ticks doing the enormous splash dmg

What it also means is that Lightning HA players will be able to fight bosses in IC cross alliance without damaging people they aren't intending to. Just stop the channel before the final tick to avoid the splash and you won't hit opposing faction players who are helping burn down a boss at 2 am when there are only 5 people playing.

So what you're saying is that they likely haven't fixed the issue because of PvP, but because of PvPvE. So the current meme of them only fixing PvE issues continues hahahaha.

Snamyap

I always wonder why people cheat in a game with nothing actually at stake. Can one be proud of such an "achievement"? 🤷

Einar_Hrafnarsson

Cheating has been a problem for so long and it seems Zeni is not able to keep up with it.

Just a few days ago i had a dude in BG's who just kept oneshotting everybody, his team included with 28k aoe damage per 0.5 seconds. I have not the slightest idea how that would be possible without using shady software or abusing a gamebreaking bug. I gave up on reporting such things though. Every Time i sent Videos with my reports, they didnt have a single view, so no one looked at them.

barney2525

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

Marcus684 wrote: »

jerj6925 wrote: »

I think pvp is done in this game as in there will be no further anything regarding pvp. I bet if this was an exploit allowing a pve dungeon or trial to be completed in 3 minutes they would have that patched up fast... oh and the in game store.

On a side note the cheating in pvp is growing each day as more and more people realize nothing is being done about it.

I think you're right. The number of "super-skilled" players seems to be on the rise, which always seems to happen until there's a wave of bans, after which most of them disappear or mysteriously become less skilled. My favorite time to PvP is right after a ban wave.

Its weird that ZOS is so quick to address exploits in dungeons and trials but takes forever to fix pvp exploits, if they ever actually do. How long has lighting staff splash damage been "overperforming"? Maybe it's hard for them to pick actual, legitimate exploit reports out of the mountains of "They're cheating because I lost!" reports.

the lightning staff trifocus thing is getting changed next update (on monday), and limit the spash to only the 3rd tick of the heavy

awww nuts

Jamie_Aubrey

I bet this player's name is about 100 AE in that mad font so YOU CAN'T report them

Marcus684

Snamyap wrote: »

I always wonder why people cheat in a game with nothing actually at stake. Can one be proud of such an "achievement"? 🤷

It's probably for views on their stream, which gives them a profit motive to cheat. Even if there isn't any money involved, never underestimate the power of ego.

ZOS_Kevin

Hi all, for anyone who has reported the player and has a ticket, please pass on any ticket number you may have. We can pass those on to customer service and see what's going on there.

DemonicGoat

This was brought up in another thread but provides some context too,"the game isn't entertaining so they look for that entertainment through drama"

Anyone can see ZOS ignores PVP,there is no new real pvp content to speak of so its devolved to what you see here.

WIC_HC

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Hi all, for anyone who has reported the player and has a ticket, please pass on any ticket number you may have. We can pass those on to customer service and see what's going on there.

230805-002541
230813-005737
230813-005349

ZOS_Kevin

Thanks for the tickets, @WIC_HC. We have passed those on to customer service to check and provide an update.

mook-eb16_ESO

230812-002286

mook-eb16_ESO

@ZOS_Kevin this guy exploiting scroll from uncontested keeps again zos still fail to ban this guy.

lostineternity

mook-eb16_ESO wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno Gina, players in Gray Host EU pc have been trying to report a player who keeps exploiting scrolls out out of keeps and from even behind the the gates when they are locked. There have been multiple reports to customer services, but they are not taking any action. today its the 3rd time this player come on and exploited this week. please can you escalate this issue. many Thanks

A lot of my guildies have been reporting the same guy who is doing exactly this for year.
Imagine what happened to him? - nothing. He still doing this.
The only respond from support they got "blah blah blah add to the ignore list blah blah"
I suppose they just DGAF about pvp and cheaters.

DUTCH_REAPER

The cheating is getting more pronounced. I have clipped and submitted people doing the flying hack, zero health and survive exploit, the speed hack in the last 2 weeks alone on PC NA and the players are still in game.

GooGa592

I think it's past time a zos employee spent a few days checking out the new cheats and proposing some ways to deal with them. The one I see most and is likely very hard to catch people using is complete and total CC immunity at all times.