[BUG] Bash scales only with weapon critical

Bashev

Bash critical uses only with weapon critical and not the higher stat from spell critical and weapon critical.

virtus753

Bashev wrote: »

Bash scales only with weapon critical and not with the highest stat.

Bash scales off your resistances (plus applicable increases to damage done like Deadly Aim and Master at Arms). It does not scale with offensive stats (mag/stam).

Bashev

virtus753 wrote: »

Bashev wrote: »

Bash scales only with weapon critical and not with the highest stat.

Bash scales off your resistances (plus applicable increases to damage done like Deadly Aim and Master at Arms). It does not scale with offensive stats (mag/stam).

Ops, sorry what i wanted to say is that If i have 40% spell critical and 10% weapon critical, the bash damage will take only the 10% from weapon critical.

Kaelthorn_Nightbloom

I can confirm Spell Critical doesn't apply to Bash attacks.

Methodology

• Essence of Spell Critical potion for Major Prophecy
• Dark Deal for Minor Prophecy
• Bash weave light attacks
• 6m dummy

730 bashes (11% crit), 384 light attacks (29% crit)



29.4% spell critical



11.4% weapon critical



@ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_Gilliam Bash attack crit chance should probably be hybridized.

virtus753

Bashev wrote: »

virtus753 wrote: »

Bashev wrote: »

Bash scales only with weapon critical and not with the highest stat.

Bash scales off your resistances (plus applicable increases to damage done like Deadly Aim and Master at Arms). It does not scale with offensive stats (mag/stam).

Ops, sorry what i wanted to say is that If i have 40% spell critical and 10% weapon critical, the bash damage will take only the 10% from weapon critical.

Thanks for clarifying! Yeah, that’s probably an oversight. As far as I can tell, light attacks get hybridized properly, so I don’t see a reason bash shouldn’t. Especially since you can bash with a staff, and many tanks do. I wonder if bash with a staff takes only spell crit, then, or if it’s stuck with weapon crit.

Kaelthorn_Nightbloom

This is still broken in Update 39 (9.1.5).

It's very bad for Sorcerers because Minor Prophecy from Dark Deal doesn't work at all toward Bash attack. This means Sorcerers using Spell Critical potions (Major Prophecy) still have 11% Bash Critical even though Spell Critical is 29%.

The only way around this is to run Weapon Critical potions (Major Savagery) and Weapon Critical poisons (Minor Savagery) which means you can't use any of the good potions like detection and heroism, or any of the good poisons like double dot, detection, snares/roots, speed/unstoppable, stamina recovery, etc. You can use Camouflaged Hunter for Major Savagery but it requires an extra bar slot and should not be needed with hybridization.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Kevin Please consider fixing this in the next update.

Kaelthorn_Nightbloom

This is still broken in Update 40 (v9.2.5)

Methodology:

• Spell Critical 30.4% (99% uptime on Major and Minor Prophecy)
• Weapon Critical 12.4%

Observed Behavior: 1157 bashes and only 14% were critical strikes
Expected Behavior: 1157 bashes and ~30% should be critical strikes

Kaelthorn_Nightbloom

virtus753 wrote: »

I wonder if bash with a staff takes only spell crit, then, or if it’s stuck with weapon crit.

I've tested it and bashing with an Ice staff uses weapon crit only.

virtus753

SkaraMinoc wrote: »

virtus753 wrote: »

I wonder if bash with a staff takes only spell crit, then, or if it’s stuck with weapon crit.

I've tested it and bashing with an Ice staff uses weapon crit only.

Thank you!

StihlReign

SkaraMinoc wrote: »

This is still broken in Update 40 (v9.2.5)

Methodology:

• Spell Critical 30.4% (99% uptime on Major and Minor Prophecy)
• Weapon Critical 12.4%

Observed Behavior: 1157 bashes and only 14% were critical strikes
Expected Behavior: 1157 bashes and ~30% should be critical strikes

This is moving from update to update, have we had any acknowledgment of this issue?