Ability to have ignored guildmates always show as offline in guild roster

SilverBride

When we put a guildmate on ignore we can no longer see what they say in guild chat, but we can still see them as online in the guild roster. It would be nice if we could choose to show ignored guildmates as always offline so we can completely ignore their presence.

Unfortunately sometimes guildmates do things that warrant an ignore and it would be nice if it could ignore them completely.

tmbrinks

Same for the forums, when I have somebody ignored, I don't want to see threads that they start (there is no change in that behavior, they show up just like any other thread) And I get this gaudy gray box when they reply to a post. Can they just be completely removed from me seeing them?

SilverBride

I agree that the forums need a true ignore also. Right now all it does is minimize the ignored person's post.

It's not like I have a lot of people ignored. Right now I only have one ignored in game, that happens to be a guildmate, and none on the forums. But if I ignore them there is a very good reason and I really don't want to see their presence.

spartaxoxo

If you ignore someone, you should also be unable to comment on their posts or send them messages in game. Some people abuse the ignore feature.

richo262

Let me get this straight, a feature exists where you can no longer receive communication with another, and even in passing, in an unintentional contact (ie a guild chat that you can read, but are not involved in the conversation) it will block communication. This is reasonable, somebody annoys you, or they contribute very little, 'remove' their contribution from your screen.

You now want a way of, if you actively review a list, and simply notice that they even exist, that they must be removed?

SilverBride

richo262 wrote: »

Let me get this straight, a feature exists where you can no longer receive communication with another, and even in passing, in an unintentional contact (ie a guild chat that you can read, but are not involved in the conversation) it will block communication. This is reasonable, somebody annoys you, or they contribute very little, 'remove' their contribution from your screen.

You now want a way of, if you actively review a list, and simply notice that they even exist, that they must be removed?

Yes, I would like this to be an option. The reason being that when we ignore someone that we don't share a guild with we have no way to know if they are talking in zone chat or somewhere else because we can't see their text, AND we have no way of knowing if they are even around. So they are completely ignored.

But if we ignore a guildmate we still have to see that they are on and where they are. This is not a complete ignore.

Casul

I mean it seems like maybe this just needs to be a guild handled issue. Let’s say for example you get your offline tag for ignored guildmates. Well what if there is an event and that person decides to show up, would you ask ZoS to black out their character and censor their name? And what if others in the guild decide to engage with that person in guild chat, should their name be censored from the mouths of your other guild mates?

With this in mind I have only ever ignored gold sellers so I am not very certain how the existing system even functions. But this seems like a personal issue and not a system issue. My 2c.

SilverBride

I don't know how they would handle events, but that isn't relevant in my case. I just want to show the person as offline and not know when they are around. That's it.

Casul

SilverBride wrote: »

I don't know how they would handle events, but that isn't relevant in my case. I just want to show the person as offline and not know when they are around. That's it.

I question if that would be enough though. What if you are searching for someone’s name alphabetically and see their offline guild name? Would you request ZoS blacklist their account from your UI? I just feel like this is a personal issue and should be sorted internally with your guild.

SilverBride

Casul wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

I don't know how they would handle events, but that isn't relevant in my case. I just want to show the person as offline and not know when they are around. That's it.

I question if that would be enough though. What if you are searching for someone’s name alphabetically and see their offline guild name? Would you request ZoS blacklist their account from your UI? I just feel like this is a personal issue and should be sorted internally with your guild.

I have no idea how to search someone's name alphabetically outside the guild roster, and didn't know it was even an option.

Casul

SilverBride wrote: »

Casul wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

I don't know how they would handle events, but that isn't relevant in my case. I just want to show the person as offline and not know when they are around. That's it.

I question if that would be enough though. What if you are searching for someone’s name alphabetically and see their offline guild name? Would you request ZoS blacklist their account from your UI? I just feel like this is a personal issue and should be sorted internally with your guild.

I have no idea how to search someone's name alphabetically outside the guild roster, and didn't know it was even an option.

I am not sure about PC but on console you can select the column and search ascending and descending orders. Same thing for rank and online status etc.

SilverBride

Casul wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Casul wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

I don't know how they would handle events, but that isn't relevant in my case. I just want to show the person as offline and not know when they are around. That's it.

I question if that would be enough though. What if you are searching for someone’s name alphabetically and see their offline guild name? Would you request ZoS blacklist their account from your UI? I just feel like this is a personal issue and should be sorted internally with your guild.

I have no idea how to search someone's name alphabetically outside the guild roster, and didn't know it was even an option.

I am not sure about PC but on console you can select the column and search ascending and descending orders. Same thing for rank and online status etc.

Yes I can do that in the guild roster, but mine is always set up with online displayed first in alphabetical order. I have rarely had to search for someone's name in the list. If they showed offline they would still show offline if I searched their name... which I wouldn't.

I just don't think it's unreasonable to want a more complete ignore function.

Dr_Con

Unfortunately the ignore functionality in this game is limited. Just because you ignore someone doesn't mean they can't read what you say in guild or in zone chat, or in a group (you can be matched with people you have blocked in matchmaker queues). It is important in some situations to know when certain people are online, including within guild.

Necrotech_Master

if your already ignoring them thats blocking communication

if they are still in the list, then you know where to avoid them then? it seems like a very petty request honestly and if its just your UI you want to change maybe theres some kind of addon to block everything from people on your ignore list including showing up in other lists like guilds

rpa

If a guild member upsets you enough you don't even want to see them being online on guild roster, why are you still in the same guild with them? Ignoring someone will only block you seeing their blather.

I think I myself have only ignored chat spammers and trolls but I do not recall reviewing my ignore list in recent years.

SilverBride

rpa wrote: »

If a guild member upsets you enough you don't even want to see them being online on guild roster, why are you still in the same guild with them?

I'm not leaving a great guild I've been in for 9 month now and made friends in over one bad member.

Tyrant_Tim

I agree with this, if you block someone, they shouldn’t even be on your list, or in your Dungeon queue.

I understand why they couldn’t for PvP, as you can’t just ignore players there, otherwise people would be blocking everyone.

Stefirex

Tyrant_Tim wrote: »

I agree with this, if you block someone, they shouldn’t even be on your list, or in your Dungeon queue.

I understand why they couldn’t for PvP, as you can’t just ignore players there, otherwise people would be blocking everyone.

I ignore people in PVP all the time.

thedoodle_90

I left a guild a liked over one bad member being rude to people. The other guildies online didn't seem to be bothered about his blatant rudeness so I just left the guild. Then ignored him. Sometimes a bad egg spoils the bunch I guess.

stewhead2ub17_ESO

lol you are giving this person entirely too much control over you. You've already put them on ignore. Seeing a guildmate's name shouldn't cause you such distress. It's just a game.

SilverBride

stewhead2ub17_ESO wrote: »

lol you are giving this person entirely too much control over you. You've already put them on ignore. Seeing a guildmate's name shouldn't cause you such distress. It's just a game.

"It's" just a game but "we" are real people.

And I'm not giving anyone control over me. If that were the case I would have let them run me out, but I haven't nor will I. I just want a little more control than the current ignore allows when it comes to guild mates.

SilverIce58

SilverBride wrote: »

stewhead2ub17_ESO wrote: »

lol you are giving this person entirely too much control over you. You've already put them on ignore. Seeing a guildmate's name shouldn't cause you such distress. It's just a game.

"It's" just a game but "we" are real people.

And I'm not giving anyone control over me. If that were the case I would have let them run me out, but I haven't nor will I. I just want a little more control than the current ignore allows when it comes to guild mates.

Except you are giving them control, as you are putting so much focus onto not seeing this person at all, that if they really had no hold over you, you wouldn't have started this thread, no?

What would you do if you go to the guild house and you see this person there? Are you going to come to the forums then asking "ZOS PLEASE remove this person's character model from my screen. I ignored them, so I shouldn't have to see them at all."

Casul

SilverIce58 wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

stewhead2ub17_ESO wrote: »

lol you are giving this person entirely too much control over you. You've already put them on ignore. Seeing a guildmate's name shouldn't cause you such distress. It's just a game.

"It's" just a game but "we" are real people.

And I'm not giving anyone control over me. If that were the case I would have let them run me out, but I haven't nor will I. I just want a little more control than the current ignore allows when it comes to guild mates.

Except you are giving them control, as you are putting so much focus onto not seeing this person at all, that if they really had no hold over you, you wouldn't have started this thread, no?

What would you do if you go to the guild house and you see this person there? Are you going to come to the forums then asking "ZOS PLEASE remove this person's character model from my screen. I ignored them, so I shouldn't have to see them at all."

I had the same opinion, frankly I want to know what this guildmate did that has warranted such an expansive need for avoiding them.

SilverBride

I know not everyone will agree with my suggestion, but it is not unreasonable to want ignore to work as well for guildmates as it does for everyone else.

rpa

Ignore does work just as good / bad for guildmates as it works for everyone else. You ignore someone, you do not get to see what they choose to communicate in game and that's it. Ignore does not ban them from any activity which you too may take in a multiplayer game. If they do not break the TOS or rules of your guild and guildies do not have issue with that person then your options are either to take it or leave.

Not seeing the persons name online in guild roster would be like not seeing the name in group list while still being grouped with em. And ignore does not ban people getting in same group because while you may not get along that person, you do not decide for others in group.

SilverBride

I never asked that anyone be banned from anything. All I asked was that we can have the option to have ignored guildmates show offline to the person that is ignoring them.

Tyrant_Tim

Stefirex wrote: »

Tyrant_Tim wrote: »

I agree with this, if you block someone, they shouldn’t even be on your list, or in your Dungeon queue.

I understand why they couldn’t for PvP, as you can’t just ignore players there, otherwise people would be blocking everyone.

I ignore people in PVP all the time.

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