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What's worst for you?

Vhozek
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People don't actually know what they do want. We're typically stuck either in a loop explaining what we want or overthinking how to communicate it carefully. Sometimes it's outright confusing.
One thing is for sure, we do know what we don't want. It's easier to explain the things we don't want and slowly cornering the main goal to the point it reveals itself.

In this thread, I want to attempt to shine the light onto what we do want by first tackling the things that we don't want.
I'm putting up a list of things I don't want and hopefully we can discuss them individually with the rule that we don't propose what we want but rather what we don't want.
Comment below what you DON'T want.

I don't want:
  1. A hard lock to choosing a class so early on in a TES game.
  2. Boring combat, whether because it's too easy, the combat itself is bad, or otherwise.
  3. People below my skill level to struggle continuing to play the overland content.
  4. Looking to third-party sources for details already detailed in written text.
  5. A stale meta for PvP players.
  6. PvE players thinking they can free roam every single inch of land to this living world with all sorts of creatures and magic without some form of consequence at least SOMEWHERE.
  7. Stale PvE combat. Unlocking a spammable shouldn't instantly unlock the world.
  8. Lack of combat styles. Fixed by things like adding a new skill line, reworking destruction staves, or otherwise.
  9. Faction hard lock when we can spawn in any faction's settlements now.
  10. Rely on grouping to finish content but also not completely exclude it.
  11. New ideas to only be implemented if they can be monetized.
  12. Year(s) old bugs.
  13. Forced difficulty modes for overland combat. Whether too easy or too hard.
  14. Fear to implement bandaid fixes so long as the intention is to continue to look into more permanent solutions. It's best to see the attempt is there than none at all. Communicating it's straight up a bandaid fix would probably be more respectable.

𝗡𝗼𝘁 𝘀𝗼𝗿𝗿𝘆, 𝗺𝗼𝗱𝘀. 𝗙𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗕𝗶𝗿𝗱 𝘄𝗮𝘀 𝗽𝗹𝗮𝘆𝗶𝗻𝗴.
  • aaisoaho
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    I don't want:
    - Global auction house
    - PVE Cyrodiil
    - Capes
    - Flying mounts
    - Living dwemer
    - Go to Pyandonea, Akaviri or other non-Tamriel continents
    - Dragon shouts
  • wilykcat
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    I don't want:

    1. Companions
    2. Romance
    3. More story quest
    4. Expensive prices of crowns and in-game shop items
    5. Prices to go up on in-game shop items
    6. Useless daily rewards
    7. Daily endeavors I can't do or have no interest in doing
  • Tandor
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    I don't want significant changes to the overall structure and balance of the game. It's fine as it is. I'm fed up with a change being made because a few people asked for it, but it's introduced in a way that those who asked for it don't like, and so everyone ends up hating it. Just leave things be!
  • Mesite
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    I don't want to decide what's important. I want the Devs to decide for me and I just want to play.
  • endgamesmug
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    I dont want imperial city to be an objective battleground, i dont want flags. I dont want it to be just the home of duellers and gankers 😑
  • TaSheen
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    Tandor wrote: »
    I don't want significant changes to the overall structure and balance of the game. It's fine as it is. I'm fed up with a change being made because a few people asked for it, but it's introduced in a way that those who asked for it don't like, and so everyone ends up hating it. Just leave things be!

    This, absolutely exactly.
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  • _Zathras_
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    1. I don't want excessive amounts of iceberg lettuce on my burger. I hate iceberg lettuce.
    2. I don't want my order to say it will be delivered in 5 hours, guaranteed, then arrive 3 days later.
    3. I don't want summer to whiz by at lightning speed, then winter to advance frame by frame in slow motion.
    Oh. The game..

    I don't want ESO to have increasing monetization, the stripping of talent, and reduced content, all for the sake of funding and developing the new game.

  • ArchMikem
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    You want to spin this as an attempt to find out what we really want, by just complaining about everything? Don't we already do enough of this?
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  • Vhozek
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    You want to spin this as an attempt to find out what we really want, by just complaining about everything? Don't we already do enough of this?

    They already have enough data as to what people want. It would probably be helpful to add data about things we don't want, plus it's way easier to decipher.
    𝗡𝗼𝘁 𝘀𝗼𝗿𝗿𝘆, 𝗺𝗼𝗱𝘀. 𝗙𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗕𝗶𝗿𝗱 𝘄𝗮𝘀 𝗽𝗹𝗮𝘆𝗶𝗻𝗴.
  • Kendaric
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    What I don't want:

    Getting trolled for RPing in the open world
    Any more of those awful flashy mounts, pets, skins and polymorphs
    Having to deal with names that are not lore-friendly
    Extreme monetization
    Unnecessary grinds for everything
    Being unable to hide other players' pets, skins and abilities
    Being unable to hide any vfx applied to my character
      PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!. Outfit slots not being accountwide is ridiculous given their price. PC EU/PC NA roleplayer and solo PvE quester
    • Braffin
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      I don't want to die out of boredom while trying to save nirn due to lack of difficulty.
      Never get between a cat and it's candy!
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      Overland difficulty scaling is desperately needed. 9 years. 6 paid expansions. 24 DLCs. 40 game changing updates including One Tamriel, an overhaul of the game including a permanent CP160 gear cap and ridiculous power creep thereafter. I'm sick and tired of hearing about Cadwell Silver & Gold as a "you think you do but you don't" - tier deflection to any criticism regarding the lack of overland difficulty in the game. I'm bored of dungeons, I'm bored of trials; make a personal difficulty slider for overland. It's not that hard.
    • chessalavakia_ESO
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      Vhozek wrote: »
      ArchMikem wrote: »
      You want to spin this as an attempt to find out what we really want, by just complaining about everything? Don't we already do enough of this?

      They already have enough data as to what people want. It would probably be helpful to add data about things we don't want, plus it's way easier to decipher.

      I think you'd find that if people listed everything they don't want that it would quickly become an absolute pain to deal with because of how long the lists would end up being and you'd quickly find that people are going to say no to literally every single idea and disagree with one another on everything. It's going to be a lot more fun looking at what people like and figuring out what you can deliver than finding people hate everything and trying to gauge if they actually hate x or y less or if they just didn't bother mentioning it.
    • Nightowl_74
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      I can't think of anything I don't want that's realistic in terms of actually worrying about. I don't want to suddenly face pvp in the zones I use for pve. Or to lose xp, levels, gear, or anything else upon death. Pretty much anything that would force me to make extreme changes to my usual style of play.

      Oh! With further thought I have something. I don't ever want to deal with the bug that effected interaction with all the vendor and bank npc's, again. I took an unplanned, unwanted break unril it was fixed the last time. I'd do the same if it came up again, but it was highly annoying.
    • Carcamongus
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      What I don't want:

      1. arbitrary limitations (or consequences, whatever that's supposed to mean here) regarding what I can explore. Yes, I like being able to roam wherever I see fit to enjoy the zones the devs created;
      2. more leads dropping from dungeons. It's an absolute pain in the posterior to grind those. In a few cases, I started to dislike the dungeon after finally getting the bloody lead;
      3. more leads dropping from treasure map chests. Layer upon layer of RNGeesus and the more zones are added, the smaller the odds become of getting a desired map.
      4. bosses with invincibility mechanics. This isn't about difficulty, but rather quality. It's bloody annoying to fight a boss that becomes invincible. For example, Valkynaz Dek in Apocrypha isn't a particularly hard boss, but he spends more time shielded than exposed. This doesn't make for an interesting fight;
      5. ridiculously low furnishing limits while houses keep getting bigger;
      6. torchbugs placed above items with which I must interact. Even when I don't have Mirri out, it's annoying;
      7. input delay to remain unfixed;
      8. player guild limit to remain at only 5.
      Imperial DK and Necro tank. PC/NA
      "Nothing is so bad that it can't get any worse." (Brazilian saying)
    • holger1st
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      the worst is: not able to play this game :'(
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