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View Guild Bank Function: A proposal for the Q3/Q4 2023 updates

Mascen
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One of the biggest issues ive noticed with the guild bank function is that its either heavily restricted and clunky or open as a barn door and often raided by less scrupulous players who take everything that isnt nailed down, and then the nails.

As such I have a very simple proposal. Why not add a function that allows players to view the contents of a guild bank but not withdraw/deposit in them? That way it streamlines the process a bit for guild managers and officers.
  • kargen27
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    Not sure what you are asking for. Guild members can see what is in the guild bank and the leaders can decide what ranks are allowed to deposit and withdraw.
    and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."
  • Mascen
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    kargen27 wrote: »
    Not sure what you are asking for. Guild members can see what is in the guild bank and the leaders can decide what ranks are allowed to deposit and withdraw.

    You can only see what's in the bank if you have withdrawal access no?
  • freespirit
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    No you can always see contents regardless of permissions BUT the amount of gold can be completely hidden. 😃
    When people say to me........
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    I sleep until midday cos I'm a problem solver!
  • kargen27
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    Yeah the amount of gold being hidden lets guilds keep secret what they are bidding on traders. Probably a good thing. Everything else can be seen.
    and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."
  • virtus753
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    This is a difference between gamepad and keyboard mode.

    You CANNOT see the contents of the guild bank if you do not have withdrawal permissions in gamepad mode.

    It is a longstanding issue that serves only to show gamepad mode is not equivalent to keyboard mode where it should be.
  • virtus753
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Kevin

    Some of us have been asking literally for years for someone to look into why these kinds of differences exist and how they can be addressed so gamepad mode is a more equivalent experience to keyboard mode.

    Other issues include:

    -Gamepad mode does not allow us to pick up a treasure map if we already have one just in our bank, but not our inventory, whereas in keyboard mode we can pick up that map if we have one in the bank provided it is not also in our inventory. On PC just switch modes and suddenly you can pick it up. That's not an option for console players, and on PC it also means extra time we spent figuring out the issue and switching modes.

    -I cannot use consumables in combat from inventory in gamepad mode but can in keyboard mode. I noticed it again this event, where being stuck in combat and unable to use Pelinal's scroll until I get out is a recurrent problem. Quickslots are already precious for PvP siege and tools on top of food and potions. (And yes, we need to quickslot food if we want to use it in combat due to this same issue.)

    -Cyrodiil and IC populations show differently in the same moment in keyboard vs. gamepad mode. This is very confusing - I've seen it cause arguments in zone chat - and seems absolutely pointless. Why can't the same information be given to us in both modes? Hopefully that's not too much to ask.

    Your team has known about these issues for years. Can we get some follow up, please?
  • katanagirl1
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    I cannot see any of the guild bank contents now in a guild I have been in for years since they revoked permissions. Don’t really know the details.

    It makes donating to the guild bank a pain because you don’t know how much of event style pages and stuff is already in the guild bank. I don’t want to put things in there if there already are several of them. Plus, no one can take them out.

    Yeah, I could take the time to type in guild text chat to find someone to give them to, but often I am in a hurry to get rid of them due to inventory issues, like the current event.
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    I cannot see any of the guild bank contents now in a guild I have been in for years since they revoked permissions. Don’t really know the details.

    It makes donating to the guild bank a pain because you don’t know how much of event style pages and stuff is already in the guild bank. I don’t want to put things in there if there already are several of them. Plus, no one can take them out.

    Yeah, I could take the time to type in guild text chat to find someone to give them to, but often I am in a hurry to get rid of them due to inventory issues, like the current event.

    As a GM of a large trading guild, I can tell you right now that if you are getting so many event style pages that your inventory is in crisis, then that poor guild bank probably has been flooded with those same style pages by everyone else experiencing the same crisis.

    About the only event-driven style pages that would have good worth to a bank are the ones that drop for the Undaunted event. All other event style pages are simply too common and/or too over-farmed.

    This is even more true for event runeboxes, which annoyingly cannot be stacked. The Gloam Gryphon Pet runebox is the ONLY thing of value since even the Mud Ball Pouch and Nordic Bather Towel runeboxes have finally dropped off in value. Donating the 10 Cherry Blossom Branches and 5 Jester Scintillators clogging your inventory are only going to make your GM weep and ask why they chose this life.

    And we have enough of the Ebonheart Pact Dog runeboxes now that we may as well be an animal shelter. LOL
    Edited by DragonRacer on July 7, 2023 11:36AM
    PS5 NA. GM of The PTK's - a free trading guild (CP 500+). Also a werewolf, bites are free when they're available. PSN = DragonRacer13
  • Mascen
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    I cannot see any of the guild bank contents now in a guild I have been in for years since they revoked permissions. Don’t really know the details.

    It makes donating to the guild bank a pain because you don’t know how much of event style pages and stuff is already in the guild bank. I don’t want to put things in there if there already are several of them. Plus, no one can take them out.

    Yeah, I could take the time to type in guild text chat to find someone to give them to, but often I am in a hurry to get rid of them due to inventory issues, like the current event.

    As a GM of a large trading guild, I can tell you right now that if you are getting so many event style pages that your inventory is in crisis, then that poor guild bank probably has been flooded with those same style pages by everyone else experiencing the same crisis.

    About the only event-driven style pages that would have good worth to a bank are the ones that drop for the Undaunted event. All other event style pages are simply too common and/or too over-farmed.

    This is even more true for event runeboxes, which annoyingly cannot be stacked. The Gloam Gryphon Pet runebox is the ONLY thing of value since even the Mud Ball Pouch and Nordic Bather Towel runeboxes have finally dropped off in value. Donating the 10 Cherry Blossom Branches and 5 Jester Scintillators clogging your inventory are only going to make your GM weep and ask why they chose this life.

    And we have enough of the Ebonheart Pact Dog runeboxes now that we may as well be an animal shelter. LOL

    Agreed, an autostack feature for guild banks would save many a GM tons of management work.
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    I did not know that gamepad mode hides the contents of a guild bank, sorry for giving incorrect info.

    On the subject of items management don't want to see donated....... Firepot Spider parts...... they dropped soooo much we decided for a laugh to ask everyone to put their spares into the guild bank.

    We still have many 100's of each one!! 😱
    When people say to me........
    "You're going to regret that in the morning"
    I sleep until midday cos I'm a problem solver!
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    freespirit wrote: »
    I did not know that gamepad mode hides the contents of a guild bank, sorry for giving incorrect info.

    On the subject of items management don't want to see donated....... Firepot Spider parts...... they dropped soooo much we decided for a laugh to ask everyone to put their spares into the guild bank.

    We still have many 100's of each one!! 😱

    Its ok, im just amazed as you are that PC players already have that function.

    That being said, the biggest pain in the butts IME are green recipes\furniture plans and the bluw racial motif styles. Most of my work is cleaning them out and/or withdrawing/stacking/redepositing them back in the bank.
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    Split into 5 sections/tabs 100 slots each, each having separate per rank permissions.

    Would solve a lot of problems.
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    I cannot see any of the guild bank contents now in a guild I have been in for years since they revoked permissions. Don’t really know the details.

    It makes donating to the guild bank a pain because you don’t know how much of event style pages and stuff is already in the guild bank. I don’t want to put things in there if there already are several of them. Plus, no one can take them out.

    Yeah, I could take the time to type in guild text chat to find someone to give them to, but often I am in a hurry to get rid of them due to inventory issues, like the current event.

    As a GM of a large trading guild, I can tell you right now that if you are getting so many event style pages that your inventory is in crisis, then that poor guild bank probably has been flooded with those same style pages by everyone else experiencing the same crisis.

    About the only event-driven style pages that would have good worth to a bank are the ones that drop for the Undaunted event. All other event style pages are simply too common and/or too over-farmed.

    Most mayhem style pages also retain value for a long time because a lot of people don't want to farm IC bosses.

  • DragonRacer
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    kringled_1 wrote: »
    I cannot see any of the guild bank contents now in a guild I have been in for years since they revoked permissions. Don’t really know the details.

    It makes donating to the guild bank a pain because you don’t know how much of event style pages and stuff is already in the guild bank. I don’t want to put things in there if there already are several of them. Plus, no one can take them out.

    Yeah, I could take the time to type in guild text chat to find someone to give them to, but often I am in a hurry to get rid of them due to inventory issues, like the current event.

    As a GM of a large trading guild, I can tell you right now that if you are getting so many event style pages that your inventory is in crisis, then that poor guild bank probably has been flooded with those same style pages by everyone else experiencing the same crisis.

    About the only event-driven style pages that would have good worth to a bank are the ones that drop for the Undaunted event. All other event style pages are simply too common and/or too over-farmed.

    Most mayhem style pages also retain value for a long time because a lot of people don't want to farm IC bosses.

    Touché.

    My mind immediately went to PvE event style pages like Glenmoril Witch and Grave Dancer, etc, of which you can’t even give those away. LOL

    PS5 NA. GM of The PTK's - a free trading guild (CP 500+). Also a werewolf, bites are free when they're available. PSN = DragonRacer13
  • Panthermic
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    virtus753 wrote: »
    -Gamepad mode does not allow us to pick up a treasure map if we already have one just in our bank, but not our inventory, whereas in keyboard mode we can pick up that map if we have one in the bank provided it is not also in our inventory. On PC just switch modes and suddenly you can pick it up. That's not an option for console players, and on PC it also means extra time we spent figuring out the issue and switching modes.

    This happened to me with K/M mode.
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