TybaltKaine wrote: »Because they are fighting the boss and not worrying about you? I mean, sometimes people just want to farm pages and sets, especially during events. They probably know they can mitigate whatever damage you are dealing and focus on the boss. If you manage to deal enough burst to get their attention, they will respond.
HidesInPlainSight wrote: »TybaltKaine wrote: »Because they are fighting the boss and not worrying about you? I mean, sometimes people just want to farm pages and sets, especially during events. They probably know they can mitigate whatever damage you are dealing and focus on the boss. If you manage to deal enough burst to get their attention, they will respond.
Ahh, yes. Surly not abuse the tri-focus.
TybaltKaine wrote: »You can just leave the area of the boss and get away from the splash damage, that's on you for staying engaged against a player who is clearly fighting an NPC with a lightning staff equipped. You can't complain about dying from Tri-focus when you allowed yourself to die from Tri-focus. Yes, you were there first, but they never attacked you directly, only the boss.
It's also worth noting that there are players who mainly play PVE and Don't know anything about the tri-focus issues in PVP. You may have run into a PVE player who is trying to participate in the event.
Defaulting to "they must be cheating" doesn't mean that is what happened.
EDIT: You also would have been able to come back and loot the boss after the fact since you dealt damage to them, so the "I wanted my loot" won't hold water here. You pursued with a full health bar and a shield on top and they never attacked you. They actively ran away and went back to the boss and engaged with them using the HA. You either played into the hands of an evil genius or got overzealous and tried to get easy tel-var but got stung for it.
HidesInPlainSight wrote: »TybaltKaine wrote: »You can just leave the area of the boss and get away from the splash damage, that's on you for staying engaged against a player who is clearly fighting an NPC with a lightning staff equipped. You can't complain about dying from Tri-focus when you allowed yourself to die from Tri-focus. Yes, you were there first, but they never attacked you directly, only the boss.
It's also worth noting that there are players who mainly play PVE and Don't know anything about the tri-focus issues in PVP. You may have run into a PVE player who is trying to participate in the event.
Defaulting to "they must be cheating" doesn't mean that is what happened.
EDIT: You also would have been able to come back and loot the boss after the fact since you dealt damage to them, so the "I wanted my loot" won't hold water here. You pursued with a full health bar and a shield on top and they never attacked you. They actively ran away and went back to the boss and engaged with them using the HA. You either played into the hands of an evil genius or got overzealous and tried to get easy tel-var but got stung for it.
Bruh, you have no clue what you are talking about. The player is clearing abusing the Tri-focus bug. I initiated the fight with the boss, initiated fight with the player, the player refused to target me, with the bosss above 90% health. No one in pvp is going to sit and ignore an enemy player trying to kill you, using a heavy attack build.
They are abusing the bug to proc a Tri-Focus to kill me. There is a reason when I dip low, they make no effort to kill me. Because they have a guaranteed kill by procing Tri-Focus.
HidesInPlainSight wrote: »TybaltKaine wrote: »You can just leave the area of the boss and get away from the splash damage, that's on you for staying engaged against a player who is clearly fighting an NPC with a lightning staff equipped. You can't complain about dying from Tri-focus when you allowed yourself to die from Tri-focus. Yes, you were there first, but they never attacked you directly, only the boss.
It's also worth noting that there are players who mainly play PVE and Don't know anything about the tri-focus issues in PVP. You may have run into a PVE player who is trying to participate in the event.
Defaulting to "they must be cheating" doesn't mean that is what happened.
EDIT: You also would have been able to come back and loot the boss after the fact since you dealt damage to them, so the "I wanted my loot" won't hold water here. You pursued with a full health bar and a shield on top and they never attacked you. They actively ran away and went back to the boss and engaged with them using the HA. You either played into the hands of an evil genius or got overzealous and tried to get easy tel-var but got stung for it.
Bruh, you have no clue what you are talking about. The player is clearing abusing the Tri-focus bug. I initiated the fight with the boss, initiated fight with the player, the player refused to target me, with the bosss above 90% health. No one in pvp is going to sit and ignore an enemy player trying to kill you, using a heavy attack build.
They are abusing the bug to proc a Tri-Focus to kill me. There is a reason when I dip low, they make no effort to kill me. Because they have a guaranteed kill by procing Tri-Focus.
Eh, when I am running my heavy attack build to farm tel var, and I am fighting a boss, I am 100% ignoring another player during the boss fight if they show up, unless they are a serious threat to me.
And that is on any build I am running really.
Because, if I target them and they kill me before the boss dies, I get zero tel var from the boss.
So, it is 100% on the player who gets within the area of a boss knowing that they player is heavy attacking. Like, sorry, not going to stop attacking the boss just because you decided to be close to it.
Also, way too many players try to use NPCs to body block heavy attacks. I am going out of my way to only attack a player when I am focusing the player, and they are pulling or dodging behind NPCs. Sorry, my heavy is going to attach to that NPC now. You did it to yourself.
HidesInPlainSight wrote: »HidesInPlainSight wrote: »TybaltKaine wrote: »You can just leave the area of the boss and get away from the splash damage, that's on you for staying engaged against a player who is clearly fighting an NPC with a lightning staff equipped. You can't complain about dying from Tri-focus when you allowed yourself to die from Tri-focus. Yes, you were there first, but they never attacked you directly, only the boss.
It's also worth noting that there are players who mainly play PVE and Don't know anything about the tri-focus issues in PVP. You may have run into a PVE player who is trying to participate in the event.
Defaulting to "they must be cheating" doesn't mean that is what happened.
EDIT: You also would have been able to come back and loot the boss after the fact since you dealt damage to them, so the "I wanted my loot" won't hold water here. You pursued with a full health bar and a shield on top and they never attacked you. They actively ran away and went back to the boss and engaged with them using the HA. You either played into the hands of an evil genius or got overzealous and tried to get easy tel-var but got stung for it.
Bruh, you have no clue what you are talking about. The player is clearing abusing the Tri-focus bug. I initiated the fight with the boss, initiated fight with the player, the player refused to target me, with the bosss above 90% health. No one in pvp is going to sit and ignore an enemy player trying to kill you, using a heavy attack build.
They are abusing the bug to proc a Tri-Focus to kill me. There is a reason when I dip low, they make no effort to kill me. Because they have a guaranteed kill by procing Tri-Focus.
Eh, when I am running my heavy attack build to farm tel var, and I am fighting a boss, I am 100% ignoring another player during the boss fight if they show up, unless they are a serious threat to me.
And that is on any build I am running really.
Because, if I target them and they kill me before the boss dies, I get zero tel var from the boss.
So, it is 100% on the player who gets within the area of a boss knowing that they player is heavy attacking. Like, sorry, not going to stop attacking the boss just because you decided to be close to it.
Also, way too many players try to use NPCs to body block heavy attacks. I am going out of my way to only attack a player when I am focusing the player, and they are pulling or dodging behind NPCs. Sorry, my heavy is going to attach to that NPC now. You did it to yourself.
And you are using a Lightening staff and prociing the Tri-Focus. Anyone that uses that build in IC knows, what they are doing.
It is a well known bug.
if people are fighting a boss or npc in imperial city please just calmly fight the boss with them.
the horrors are hard enough to fight alone and the style pages don't always drop.
not everyone wants to have a dull duel
if people are fighting a boss or npc in imperial city please just calmly fight the boss with them.
the horrors are hard enough to fight alone and the style pages don't always drop.
not everyone wants to have a dull duel
TybaltKaine wrote: »I mean, OP could have been at range and outside of splash zone by using Arcanist skills as well here. You can cooperate if you stay on your toes and adjust fire. But yeah, the bug needs to be patched. Just use Battlespirit as a modifier on Tri-Focus and it goes away.
Tri Focus I: (With Destruction Staff Equipped) Fully-charged Inferno Staff Heavy Attacks deal 6% additional damage. Lightning Staff Heavy Attacks damage nearby enemies for 50% of the damage done. Fully-charged Ice Staff Heavy Attacks grant you a damage shield that absorbs 2000 damage. This effect scales off your Max Health. While an Ice Staff is equipped, blocking costs Magicka instead of Stamina.
Tri Focus II: (With Destruction Staff Equipped) Fully-charged Inferno Staff Heavy Attacks deal 12% additional damage. Lightning Staff Heavy Attacks damage nearby enemies for 100% of the damage done. Fully-charged Ice Staff Heavy Attacks grants you a damage shield that absorbs 4000 damage. This effect scales off your Max Health. While an Ice Staff is equipped, blocking costs Magicka instead of Stamina.
"This Passive does not function when Battle Spirit is active." is all you need to add. That's it.
TybaltKaine wrote: »I mean, OP could have been at range and outside of splash zone by using Arcanist skills as well here. You can cooperate if you stay on your toes and adjust fire. But yeah, the bug needs to be patched. Just use Battlespirit as a modifier on Tri-Focus and it goes away.
HidesInPlainSight wrote: »Anyone that uses that build in IC knows, what they are doing.
It is a well known bug.
HidesInPlainSight wrote: »Anyone that uses that build in IC knows, what they are doing.
It is a well known bug.
That is nonsense. I dabble casually in PvP, but not with a build like that - only during MYM when I go into PvP with random PvE characters as well. I don't follow what's happening in PvP-land very much.
Otherwise, I play PvE. I read the forums quite regularly, but never the PvP section. (If it's not in General, I won't see it.)
And so, this thread is literally the first time I hear about a bug with Trifocus. What exactly does this bug do?
Long story short, this complaint is ridiculous. HA builds are all the rage in PvE nowadays, so you will see people going into PvP during MYM using their characters and attack everything that may or may not move with that.
HidesInPlainSight wrote: »Anyone that uses that build in IC knows, what they are doing.
It is a well known bug.
That is nonsense. I dabble casually in PvP, but not with a build like that - only during MYM when I go into PvP with random PvE characters as well. I don't follow what's happening in PvP-land very much.
Otherwise, I play PvE. I read the forums quite regularly, but never the PvP section. (If it's not in General, I won't see it.)
And so, this thread is literally the first time I hear about a bug with Trifocus. What exactly does this bug do?
Long story short, this complaint is ridiculous. HA builds are all the rage in PvE nowadays, so you will see people going into PvP during MYM using their characters and attack everything that may or may not move with that.
HidesInPlainSight wrote: »HidesInPlainSight wrote: »TybaltKaine wrote: »You can just leave the area of the boss and get away from the splash damage, that's on you for staying engaged against a player who is clearly fighting an NPC with a lightning staff equipped. You can't complain about dying from Tri-focus when you allowed yourself to die from Tri-focus. Yes, you were there first, but they never attacked you directly, only the boss.
It's also worth noting that there are players who mainly play PVE and Don't know anything about the tri-focus issues in PVP. You may have run into a PVE player who is trying to participate in the event.
Defaulting to "they must be cheating" doesn't mean that is what happened.
EDIT: You also would have been able to come back and loot the boss after the fact since you dealt damage to them, so the "I wanted my loot" won't hold water here. You pursued with a full health bar and a shield on top and they never attacked you. They actively ran away and went back to the boss and engaged with them using the HA. You either played into the hands of an evil genius or got overzealous and tried to get easy tel-var but got stung for it.
Bruh, you have no clue what you are talking about. The player is clearing abusing the Tri-focus bug. I initiated the fight with the boss, initiated fight with the player, the player refused to target me, with the bosss above 90% health. No one in pvp is going to sit and ignore an enemy player trying to kill you, using a heavy attack build.
They are abusing the bug to proc a Tri-Focus to kill me. There is a reason when I dip low, they make no effort to kill me. Because they have a guaranteed kill by procing Tri-Focus.
Eh, when I am running my heavy attack build to farm tel var, and I am fighting a boss, I am 100% ignoring another player during the boss fight if they show up, unless they are a serious threat to me.
And that is on any build I am running really.
Because, if I target them and they kill me before the boss dies, I get zero tel var from the boss.
So, it is 100% on the player who gets within the area of a boss knowing that they player is heavy attacking. Like, sorry, not going to stop attacking the boss just because you decided to be close to it.
Also, way too many players try to use NPCs to body block heavy attacks. I am going out of my way to only attack a player when I am focusing the player, and they are pulling or dodging behind NPCs. Sorry, my heavy is going to attach to that NPC now. You did it to yourself.
And you are using a Lightening staff and prociing the Tri-Focus. Anyone that uses that build in IC knows, what they are doing.
It is a well known bug.
Four_Fingers wrote: »Is it a bug?
Seems intended or not thought thru by the devs and you know about it so don't use the cheat card automatically.