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So we're no longer allowed to play stam?...

Alharion
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I'd really like ZOS to explain its reasoning on what a stam player in 202 3 suffers in pvp. I play NB archer in PVP and quite often, I'm faced with players who don't take any damage penetration, really 0 nothing, it's really grotesque to see such a thing.

I don't know if it's because I don't play this damned two-handed weapon that we've been forced to play in PVP since the start of the game (even though the devs were touting the possibility of creating are, build, it's clearly a lie...). But it's really depressing to see that we can be so deprived because we made such a choice, why are we forced to take the two-handed "swing" weapon attack to be able to play an archer stam? Why wasn't this spell designed for archer too? Are we going to have the right to really play what we want in TESO one day and not what the devs or youtube want us to play on TESO? Will the game ever be fair?...

For now, I've given feedback on the game. However, when I see the state of battelground PVP in TESO, which is becoming more and more catastrophic, I'm not really motivated to come back and play the game, although I do want to come back, but the game isn't exactly a dream come true with its extremely unfair and dirigiste pvp...
Edited by ZOS_Kraken on June 20, 2023 4:25PM
  • Snamyap
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    Granted, I don't do pvp, but I have zero idea what it is you're actually complaining about. 🤔
  • El_Borracho
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    Unless you are ganking with a bow, you are dying with a bow
  • Alharion
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    Snamyap wrote: »
    Granted, I don't do pvp, but I have zero idea what it is you're actually complaining about. 🤔

    That stam is not fair if we don't play this damn dominant meta utlra of the weapon with two hands clearly anti-creativity, that there is a certain lack of penetration for an archer in PVP battleground!
  • SacredNym
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    Snamyap wrote: »
    Granted, I don't do pvp, but I have zero idea what it is you're actually complaining about. 🤔

    I think he's implying that Major Berserk off Wrecking Blow (or maybe Carve with Masters 2H) is simply too strong to not bring to PvP on every toon.

    Kinda makes the title misleading since both those are stam skills.
  • ArchMikem
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    Could you show us your buffed character stats sheet while your bow is equipped?

    Bows can do high damage, but they have lower base damage and crit chance compared to say Dual Wield.
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  • Dr_Con
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    Alharion wrote: »
    Snamyap wrote: »
    Granted, I don't do pvp, but I have zero idea what it is you're actually complaining about. 🤔

    That stam is not fair if we don't play this damn dominant meta utlra of the weapon with two hands clearly anti-creativity, that there is a certain lack of penetration for an archer in PVP battleground!

    bow gank builds exist and you do more damage the further away you are with snipe. no one should be able to burst people down out of stealth from 28+ meters away though, especially in no cp battleground.

    the times i see bow builds dominate is when the archers are well positioned and are ignored.
  • SpacemanSpiff1
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    correct. stamina has been removed.
  • Alharion
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    SacredNym wrote: »
    Snamyap wrote: »
    Granted, I don't do pvp, but I have zero idea what it is you're actually complaining about. 🤔

    I think he's implying that Major Berserk off Wrecking Blow (or maybe Carve with Masters 2H) is simply too strong to not bring to PvP on every toon.


    Yes, and that too, I admit to having been a little bit on several sides of the subject, but I had a need to raise a certain point at the same time: D
  • jaws343
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    Hmm, my Bow/Bow nightblade is still fairly successful and I haven't updated the build in like a year. Also not a gank build. The trick is the Psijic spammable and offensive use of cloak in combat.
  • Xandreia_
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    I don't mean this to be rude but... its most likely a player/build issue. I play both mag/stam focused builds with a little hybrid mixed in, you can 100% still do it, you don't HAVE to go hybrid although it does work better. Pvp is full of tanky players that don't want to die, if you want to kill players, you might want to move away from the roleplay style "archer" build. (Sorry)
  • ZOS_Kraken
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    Greetings,

    After further review we have decided to move this thread to PVP Combat & Skills as we think it is more appropriate for this topic.

    Thank you for your understanding.
    Staff Post
  • DrNukenstein
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    I think it's a good thing tbh. Bow has some of the most obnoxious skills in the game and only degenerates main it.

    Bombard? Why is that in this game?

    Bow ult? stupid smooth brain move

    The snipe combo? for weaklings that aren't good enough to do the d-swing combo

    If you want solo kills, use a two hander or dual wield like a good player. Otherwise bow is fine where it is. A support tool that doubles as a "kick me" sign.
  • LittlePinkDot
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    Alharion wrote: »
    I'd really like ZOS to explain its reasoning on what a stam player in 202 3 suffers in pvp. I play NB archer in PVP and quite often, I'm faced with players who don't take any damage penetration, really 0 nothing, it's really grotesque to see such a thing.

    I don't know if it's because I don't play this damned two-handed weapon that we've been forced to play in PVP since the start of the game (even though the devs were touting the possibility of creating are, build, it's clearly a lie...). But it's really depressing to see that we can be so deprived because we made such a choice, why are we forced to take the two-handed "swing" weapon attack to be able to play an archer stam? Why wasn't this spell designed for archer too? Are we going to have the right to really play what we want in TESO one day and not what the devs or youtube want us to play on TESO? Will the game ever be fair?...

    For now, I've given feedback on the game. However, when I see the state of battelground PVP in TESO, which is becoming more and more catastrophic, I'm not really motivated to come back and play the game, although I do want to come back, but the game isn't exactly a dream come true with its extremely unfair and dirigiste pvp...

    It's bow that sucks for most builds, not stam.
    The reason why alot of people use two handed is because the class they chose doesn't have a good spammable skill, so they have to use a weapon skill. Or it could be because their class doesn't have an execute ability or a gap closer, something 2 handed does have.
    Dual wield is also popular with those arena weapons "Stinging slashes" I think it's called.

    Nightblade doesn't have those problems. You've got Surprise attack as a spammable, killers blade/impale is an execute. And Merciless Resolve is a nuke.

  • Alchimiste1
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    Play how you want,

    As long as its hybrid.


    They should really revery the hybridization changes
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