[SUGGESTION] Purchasable dual-wield weapon carried on back

AnduinTryggva

As we are now able to personalize some farming animation could we get some other modification possibilities? My top position on my wish list with regard to this would be to be able to carry my dual wield weapons on the back like certain mods allowed it for skyrim. Would be awesome and so much looked after for any decent assassin

TaSheen

That would likely require major changes to the skeletons of the races, and completely different rigging for positioning. In Skyrim, you had to use different skeletons (from mods) in order to get the "on the back" to even look and work right for both genders and all races.

I still play Skyrim - and modding for weapons on the back is still not "smooth".

colossalvoids

TaSheen wrote: »

That would likely require major changes to the skeletons of the races, and completely different rigging for positioning. In Skyrim, you had to use different skeletons (from mods) in order to get the "on the back" to even look and work right for both genders and all races.

I still play Skyrim - and modding for weapons on the back is still not "smooth".

Not sure they need anything extra for the skelly rig apart of a new slot there matching default shield/2h placement distance from the body. Skyrim was a way different deal with it's engine and how sheathing was implemented making it a problem, it wasn't even your weapon but a copy of it making custom ones not appear on back without extra framework. If I remember correctly details, was some time.

Playing as a sorcerer comes to mind, if you're dual wielding and hard casting crystal frag your weapons going onto your back instead of a hip, which is exactly what a lot of people were requesting since the begining of times.

colossalvoids

We also got "no weapons" by bound style and one of the outfit styles that hides it when sheathed. So placement swap isn't looking that unrealistic now, especially if that's just a copy of what's already ingame.

Braffin

TaSheen wrote: »

That would likely require major changes to the skeletons of the races, and completely different rigging for positioning. In Skyrim, you had to use different skeletons (from mods) in order to get the "on the back" to even look and work right for both genders and all races.

I still play Skyrim - and modding for weapons on the back is still not "smooth".

I don't think that major changes would be necessary, as we are already have options to carry shields and two-handed weapons on our back. Additionally most one-handed weapons are just a smaller version of their two-handed counterpart.

What's definitely needed would be a new sheate/unsheate animation. How difficult it were to implement this I don't know, but considering the fantastic work dev are doing with various emotes, I think it's not impossible.

And of course there would be some clipping issues (well, maybe a lot of, given the sheer amount of possible combinations) which had to be sorted out over time.

TaSheen

You may be right - though even in Skyrim there was shield placement on back (I never played 1h and shield so I can't remember how the sheathing worked - I always play stealth archer).

And now, I can't remember if 2 hand was already on back in Skyrim because I never played that style either!

colossalvoids

Pretty sure all unmodded Beth games had shield at hand and 2h on a back (or invisible like skyrim staves).

AnduinTryggva

TaSheen wrote: »

You may be right - though even in Skyrim there was shield placement on back (I never played 1h and shield so I can't remember how the sheathing worked - I always play stealth archer).

And now, I can't remember if 2 hand was already on back in Skyrim because I never played that style either!

The shield-on-back in skyrim was, ircc, not stock and was at first at least a mod.

ghastley

Let us not forget that Skyrim let us choose weapons for each hand and two shields was not prohibited, just pointless. So what went on your back was already a more complex choice. But, there was only one player character, so mods could impose the same change on all one of you.

ESO parks the weapon for each skill in a fixed place, even if Gloambound style then makes it disappear. Any change doesn’t just mean adding a new sheathing animation, but also a mechanism for choosing, database changes to record the choice, etc. It is a bigger deal in ESO than it was in Skyrim.

Braffin

ghastley wrote: »

Let us not forget that Skyrim let us choose weapons for each hand and two shields was not prohibited, just pointless. So what went on your back was already a more complex choice. But, there was only one player character, so mods could impose the same change on all one of you.

ESO parks the weapon for each skill in a fixed place, even if Gloambound style then makes it disappear. Any change doesn’t just mean adding a new sheathing animation, but also a mechanism for choosing, database changes to record the choice, etc. It is a bigger deal in ESO than it was in Skyrim.

But doesn't this database already exist? So it should be doable to expand the existing one by a toggle to switch between variables for the two modes.

Giraffon

I think it would be a nice visual upgrade to be able to have two crossed swords on your back. Drawing them before combat would make for a cool effect. I support the idea.