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Hermaeus Mora voice

Lapin_Logic
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Why?

Seriously, why do we keep having voices change, I feel I'm going schizophrenic every time a new chapter comes out and the excitement of meeting an "old friend" is just replaced with disappointment and confusion at their uncanny valley appearance overhaul or anywhere from slightly off voice lines from a rusty actor that hasn't relistened their cadence (Skald King, I',m looking at you) or a outright redo of every voice line (Duke of crows, old "Featherless approaches, APPROACHES! *Caw*" vs replacement "featherless approaches approaches") or a disjointed mix of new and old.

I know it's not possible to always get the same actor, but at least get a good impersonation of what is already in the game I have been playing for 8 years and give them enough stage direction that they know they are voicing a crow or a demon, not Villager 4b.
  • phaneub17_ESO
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    I liked the guy who did the Vile Manse. I think I was the only one...
  • TheValkyn
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    Wes Johnson IS Hermaeus Mora. This was an upgrade and it fits the previous TES titles because he voiced the character in those as well.
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    TheValkyn wrote: »
    Wes Johnson IS Hermaeus Mora. This was an upgrade and it fits the previous TES titles because he voiced the character in those as well.

    Oh, they got Wes back for the new chapter? I thought they were saying that ZoS got a third voice actor to voice Mora. But it's actually the good one, great! Good to know, more likely to do the questline now.
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    TheValkyn wrote: »
    Wes Johnson IS Hermaeus Mora. This was an upgrade and it fits the previous TES titles because he voiced the character in those as well.

    IS in a different game, Mora has a voice in Craglorn, The vile Manse and another delve mission where he gets you to suicide a guy.

    it would be as relevant as renaming Argonians to "Lizard men" just because that is how it was in a previous game

    Wes is Sheo
    Edited by Lapin_Logic on June 7, 2023 10:43PM
  • NotaDaedraWorshipper
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    Well, it can easily be explained away with, as a daedric prince, he can make himself sound and look however he want.

    Also, what's wrong with Jorunn?
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    Well, it can easily be explained away with, as a daedric prince, he can make himself sound and look however he want.

    Also, what's wrong with Jorunn?

    Greymoor from prologue to end he sounds like he is doing a bad impersonation of himself, Ditto with Sai Sahan when he came back, Sai was delivered 'angry' and short tempered, All I can think of is the recording studio do not give them a prep tape before pressing record.

    Alfred totally Nailed Tharn when he returned.
    Edited by Lapin_Logic on June 7, 2023 2:07AM
  • Norith_Gilheart_Flail
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    This does come across as unhinged.
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    TheValkyn wrote: »
    Wes Johnson IS Hermaeus Mora. This was an upgrade and it fits the previous TES titles because he voiced the character in those as well.

    IS in a different game, Mora has a voice in Craglorn, The vile Manse and another delve mission where he gets you to suicide a guy.

    it would be as relevant as renaming Argonians to "Lizard men" just because that is how it was in a previous game

    Wes is Sheo, and I don't need everyone sounding the same, also since they already had Wes.... Why didn't he voice Mora from the start, that would have been fine.

    Two things:
    One, I have heard that people went back and found that the old voice lines have been redone by Wes.
    Two, Wes is NOT Sheo in ESO. Wes' first VA'd character in ESO is the "king" of Markarth. But it's funny you say "I don't need everyone sounding the same" since Wes voices... so... many characters in TES. Especially in Oblivion, feels like 75% of characters are him haha.
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  • Cazador
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    Soarora wrote: »
    TheValkyn wrote: »
    Wes Johnson IS Hermaeus Mora. This was an upgrade and it fits the previous TES titles because he voiced the character in those as well.

    IS in a different game, Mora has a voice in Craglorn, The vile Manse and another delve mission where he gets you to suicide a guy.

    it would be as relevant as renaming Argonians to "Lizard men" just because that is how it was in a previous game

    Wes is Sheo, and I don't need everyone sounding the same, also since they already had Wes.... Why didn't he voice Mora from the start, that would have been fine.

    Two things:
    One, I have heard that people went back and found that the old voice lines have been redone by Wes.
    Two, Wes is NOT Sheo in ESO. Wes' first VA'd character in ESO is the "king" of Markarth. But it's funny you say "I don't need everyone sounding the same" since Wes voices... so... many characters in TES. Especially in Oblivion, feels like 75% of characters are him haha.

    Definitely not far off. I think he's the voice of every male imperial (except for uriel and Martin Septim) and also every dremora.
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    It doesn't matter. The princes manifest their form, appearance, voice, and basically anything they want to within their worlds at will. Any one of the Princes can take on the appearance of anything they want. Heck there's even some theories that suggest that Mephala is Sithis.
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    Soarora wrote: »
    TheValkyn wrote: »
    Wes Johnson IS Hermaeus Mora. This was an upgrade and it fits the previous TES titles because he voiced the character in those as well.

    IS in a different game, Mora has a voice in Craglorn, The vile Manse and another delve mission where he gets you to suicide a guy.

    it would be as relevant as renaming Argonians to "Lizard men" just because that is how it was in a previous game

    Wes is Sheo, and I don't need everyone sounding the same, also since they already had Wes.... Why didn't he voice Mora from the start, that would have been fine.

    Two things:
    One, I have heard that people went back and found that the old voice lines have been redone by Wes.
    Two, Wes is NOT Sheo in ESO. Wes' first VA'd character in ESO is the "king" of Markarth. But it's funny you say "I don't need everyone sounding the same" since Wes voices... so... many characters in TES. Especially in Oblivion, feels like 75% of characters are him haha.

    Yes, I confirmed that they changed all the old voices to the new version in all interactions with H.Mora throughout the game. It was also confirmed by @ZOS_Kevin.
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  • SilverIce58
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    I have to agree, Wes wasn't the best choice when HM already had a much deeper VA in Crag and the Vile Manse. No offense to Wes or anything, but HM sounds light years better with a deeper voice. Now when I speak to him, i'm like, "do you need a tissue or something? You congested in whatever passes for your sinuses?" Like poor guy.
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    Dr_Con wrote: »
    It doesn't matter. The princes manifest their form, appearance, voice, and basically anything they want to within their worlds at will. Any one of the Princes can take on the appearance of anything they want. Heck there's even some theories that suggest that Mephala is Sithis.

    Just a slight correction because I'm a nerd; the theory is that Mephala is the Night Mother.

    There are some theories suggesting that Namira is an aspect of Sithis, but I'm not gonna really get into that.
    Edited by CameraBeardThePirate on June 7, 2023 12:41PM
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    I have to agree, Wes wasn't the best choice when HM already had a much deeper VA in Crag and the Vile Manse. No offense to Wes or anything, but HM sounds light years better with a deeper voice. Now when I speak to him, i'm like, "do you need a tissue or something? You congested in whatever passes for your sinuses?" Like poor guy.

    Dude the voice actor for Herma in the manse was a generic dark Elf voice. Wes Johnson is hermaeus mora. That one in thr vile manse is comical at best.
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    I never thought I'd see a day someone is complaining about getting back Wes Freaking Johnson for elder scrolls. If you wanna know why he wasn't in the original ESO is because the developer never reached out to him even though he made it known he was interested as he is a awesome person and major TES Fan too. I'm honestly really shocked this is a complaint.
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    I absolutely love Wes as Hermaeus. In fact, I love everything he does!
    I would also like to point out that the voices of Naryu and Queen Ayrenn (High Isle) did change, and for the worse. I absolutely disliked both ot the new voices for them.
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    Bo0137 wrote: »
    I absolutely love Wes as Hermaeus. In fact, I love everything he does!
    I would also like to point out that the voices of Naryu and Queen Ayrenn (High Isle) did change, and for the worse. I absolutely disliked both ot the new voices for them.

    Queen was the same person, Kate Beckinsale.
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    I'm looking forward to hearing him again as I liked the original in Skyrim so much better. It has such an interest tone. I've voiced acted a bit myself and I always liked how he voiced Herma with the interesting changing speech patterns. One of my favorites next to G-man in Half Life (not him but Michael Shapiro.)
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    Bo0137 wrote: »
    I absolutely love Wes as Hermaeus. In fact, I love everything he does!
    I would also like to point out that the voices of Naryu and Queen Ayrenn (High Isle) did change, and for the worse. I absolutely disliked both ot the new voices for them.

    Queen was the same person, Kate Beckinsale.

    just because its the same voice actor doesnt mean that they change the voice modulation to make it sound different

    a prime example is lyranth, she sounds distinctly different from her early appearances in coldharbour/ICP compared to her later appearances (blackwood), and it was confirmed it was the same voice actor but they changed the voice modulation (which ended up making it sound completely different instead of something subtle)
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    Bo0137 wrote: »
    I absolutely love Wes as Hermaeus. In fact, I love everything he does!
    I would also like to point out that the voices of Naryu and Queen Ayrenn (High Isle) did change, and for the worse. I absolutely disliked both ot the new voices for them.

    Queen was the same person, Kate Beckinsale.

    just because its the same voice actor doesnt mean that they change the voice modulation to make it sound different

    a prime example is lyranth, she sounds distinctly different from her early appearances in coldharbour/ICP compared to her later appearances (blackwood), and it was confirmed it was the same voice actor but they changed the voice modulation (which ended up making it sound completely different instead of something subtle)

    That's true and also in the case of Kate, voices change over time.
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    Ayren was fine, it mostly isn't a acted voice
    Edited by Lapin_Logic on June 7, 2023 10:41PM
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    TheValkyn wrote: »
    Wes Johnson IS Hermaeus Mora. This was an upgrade and it fits the previous TES titles because he voiced the character in those as well.

    IS in a different game, Mora has a voice in Craglorn, The vile Manse and another delve mission where he gets you to suicide a guy.

    it would be as relevant as renaming Argonians to "Lizard men" just because that is how it was in a previous game

    Wes is Sheo

    I think they updated the VO in older content. Wes called me Fate's Chosen last night in the Vile Manse. :smile:
  • Umbranox
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    While consistency is nice and quite important, I can understand the difficulty in hiring particular voice actors at various stages in development. I'm glad they got Wes back, but I do wish they'd get him to record over some of the older lines for Mora and Sheo, even if it would perhaps be insulting to the previous actors.

    Despite this, I can live with it because the princes are ever-changing entities, manifesting in unique ways depending on context.
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