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[REQUEST] Get a WYSIWYG for character edition screen
AnduinTryggva
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This is imho a highly important but unfortunately since years neglected issue that we create a character inside the editor but looks pretty different when in game. I think this is a huge flaw considering how much effort people put into their character creation and how important this is for players.
To be honest I think it comes almost close to pulling a fast one on players to ask 1000 crowns for a character change token needed to correct the flaws of the editor.
Edited by AnduinTryggva on May 30, 2023 2:32PM To be honest I think it comes almost close to pulling a fast one on players to ask 1000 crowns for a character change token needed to correct the flaws of the editor.
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phaneub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Do it on PTS. The appearance change tokens are 1 play crown, buy as many as you like, play around with it, take out notepad and take down your slider information.12 -
Sheezabeast✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭phaneub17_ESO wrote: »Do it on PTS. The appearance change tokens are 1 play crown, buy as many as you like, play around with it, take out notepad and take down your slider information.
This, or make the character on the EU server (or US if you are EUI) and once you like how they look, screenshot the sliders, create, tweak, delete, screenshot, and there you go
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TaSheen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭FantasticFreddie wrote: »Ok someone tell me what this acronym stands for cause I got NOTHING
What You See Is What You Get
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Danikat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Follow up question, what does "Get a WYSIWYG" mean in this context?
Is this just odd wording for the reoccurring request for the lighting in the character creator to be changed to reflect what's actually in the game so it's easier to know how your character will look once they're out in the world? Or is this some type of tool the OP wants added?PC EU player | She/her/hers | PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!
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AnduinTryggva✭✭✭✭✭
✭I think it is not only about lighting although I am sure this is a big part in the discrepancies between editor and ingame.
To be honest I would just be happy to have inside the editor a view that I can toggle on/off that shows how my toon is rendered in game. The setting of the environment should be standard outside lightning (so noon sunny outside, not inside) but if devs look for a more convenient solutions we get some additional switches to modify lightning conditions of this render view.
BTW: Good idea with PTS (although I think the devs could do that bit of effort to make life easier for players. Why should players search for a very awkward solution when there is a simple one for the devs to implement?). Is there a way to extract the numerical slider position and to recreate it exactly in the editor?1 -
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✭✭✭FantasticFreddie wrote: »Ok someone tell me what this acronym stands for cause I got NOTHING
What You See Is What You Get
Thank you, I have so many questions.0 -
TaSheen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭About the acronym? This is a quick and dirty explanation:
https://www.techtarget.com/whatis/definition/WYSIWYG-what-you-see-is-what-you-get#:~:text=WYSIWYG (pronounced wiz-ee-,see is what you get."
WordPerfect was the wysiwig editor I used for years, beginning back in the 80s.______________________________________________________
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KlauthWarthog✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I would prefer to have a couple hours of grace period to change the character appearance after creation, and after spending a token. Log in, see how the character actually looks like, log out, tweak the flaws away, repeat.10 -
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✭✭✭KlauthWarthog wrote: »I would prefer to have a couple hours of grace period to change the character appearance after creation, and after spending a token. Log in, see how the character actually looks like, log out, tweak the flaws away, repeat.
Something like Oblivion, where you can make changes after the tutorial would be perfect5 -
Mik195✭✭✭✭✭KlauthWarthog wrote: »I would prefer to have a couple hours of grace period to change the character appearance after creation, and after spending a token. Log in, see how the character actually looks like, log out, tweak the flaws away, repeat.
I think this would be more fair for console players who don't have access to PTS.5 -
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✭✭✭About the acronym? This is a quick and dirty explanation:
https://www.techtarget.com/whatis/definition/WYSIWYG-what-you-see-is-what-you-get#:~:text=WYSIWYG (pronounced wiz-ee-,see is what you get."
WordPerfect was the wysiwig editor I used for years, beginning back in the 80s.
Now you're taking me back. WordPerfect was a huge upgrade to WordStar at the time.PC NA0 -
TaSheen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭SkaraMinoc wrote: »About the acronym? This is a quick and dirty explanation:
https://www.techtarget.com/whatis/definition/WYSIWYG-what-you-see-is-what-you-get#:~:text=WYSIWYG (pronounced wiz-ee-,see is what you get."
WordPerfect was the wysiwig editor I used for years, beginning back in the 80s.
Now you're taking me back. WordPerfect was a huge upgrade to WordStar at the time.
No kidding! It was heaven on a floppy disk.______________________________________________________
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✭Agree the ESO character screen is not brilliant but have to say there are others that are far far worse - can’t tell you how many times I redid my character in DA:I due to what you saw in character screen being nothing like what you saw in game.
But I think the idea of a period of time to redo without cost once seen in game would be an excellent option.2 -
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✭✭✭SkaraMinoc wrote: »About the acronym? This is a quick and dirty explanation:
https://www.techtarget.com/whatis/definition/WYSIWYG-what-you-see-is-what-you-get#:~:text=WYSIWYG (pronounced wiz-ee-,see is what you get."
WordPerfect was the wysiwig editor I used for years, beginning back in the 80s.
Now you're taking me back. WordPerfect was a huge upgrade to WordStar at the time.
No kidding! It was heaven on a floppy disk.
Now I’ve got flashbacks to the time where I was using the non-WYSIWYG editor “vi” on UNIX machines. Highly celebrated because it was guaranteed to be on every machine, lol. What a claim to fame.
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TaSheen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭katanagirl1 wrote: »SkaraMinoc wrote: »About the acronym? This is a quick and dirty explanation:
https://www.techtarget.com/whatis/definition/WYSIWYG-what-you-see-is-what-you-get#:~:text=WYSIWYG (pronounced wiz-ee-,see is what you get."
WordPerfect was the wysiwig editor I used for years, beginning back in the 80s.
Now you're taking me back. WordPerfect was a huge upgrade to WordStar at the time.
No kidding! It was heaven on a floppy disk.
Now I’ve got flashbacks to the time where I was using the non-WYSIWYG editor “vi” on UNIX machines. Highly celebrated because it was guaranteed to be on every machine, lol. What a claim to fame.
Yeah, I didn't have linux/unix OS at all, but I knew people who did. They were -, not very impressed with vi, among other things. And my mother was using WordStar on a CPM (I think? Jeez that was so long ago.... maybe 4 decades?). So my x86 (not sure what brand now) that at that time came loaded with WordPerfect was.... THE BOMB.
I still use WordPerfect. Antique version - 9.... but it still works flawlessly on the latest Win 10. I'm not moving to 11. At the point where 10 no longer gets security updates, I'll figure out some version of linux. I may be old, but I am NOT dumb.....Edited by TaSheen on May 31, 2023 1:10AM______________________________________________________
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✭FantasticFreddie wrote: »KlauthWarthog wrote: »I would prefer to have a couple hours of grace period to change the character appearance after creation, and after spending a token. Log in, see how the character actually looks like, log out, tweak the flaws away, repeat.
Something like Oblivion, where you can make changes after the tutorial would be perfect
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✭✭I think the first time you to change/adjust appearance should be free (or maybe you could be given a token as a level-up reward).
I don't want to count the number I had to delete and redo right after character creation...
Another thing I'd really to have is the option to save the slider settings for later use. Screenshots are ... an unreliable workaround at best.
Edited by Kendaric on May 31, 2023 8:34AM5 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I've asked a few times for a grace period of an hour after creation where we can go back in and tweak our appearance, because our characters do look different out in the world. We need time to see them in game and fine tune their appearance before they are set in stone.PCNA1 -
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✭✭✭We definitely need something, either a grace period or environments in the character creation that are the same as neutral in-game lighting. The number of times I've made a character and then needed to delete them and remake them because the cheekbones look fine in the creator but awful in-game is far too high. Plus skin tones change between the two as well, as well as other things. It really is irritating.Character List [RP and PvE]:Stands-Against-Death: Argonian Magplar Healer - Crafter
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