The only thing you gain is the thieves troves. I still wonder why it's considered stealing if you empty those. As in who are you actually stealing from? Other thieves? But you can sell that stuff without issue at fences. Maybe there should be an option to turn them in at the authorities somewhere?
Addendum: just took an alt to Abah's Landing, and the Gold Coast, she didn't get the skill lines. Try it out yourself with an alt if you don't trust me. 😉
Can't you just ignore this single unlevelled (!) skill line in you skill sheet?In fact you won't be treated as part of the thieves guild unless you willingly play their first mission given by Quen and joining the guild at the end of this quest anywhere in the game as far as I know
The only thing you gain is the thieves troves. I still wonder why it's considered stealing if you empty those. As in who are you actually stealing from? Other thieves? But you can sell that stuff without issue at fences. Maybe there should be an option to turn them in at the authorities somewhere?
Addendum: just took an alt to Abah's Landing, and the Gold Coast, she didn't get the skill lines. Try it out yourself with an alt if you don't trust me. 😉
spartaxoxo wrote: »The Troves are only able to be opened by those associated with the Thieves Guild. It is filled by thieves with stolen items.
Ragnarok0130 wrote: »Can't you just ignore this single unlevelled (!) skill line in you skill sheet?In fact you won't be treated as part of the thieves guild unless you willingly play their first mission given by Quen and joining the guild at the end of this quest anywhere in the game as far as I know
This^^. Everybody has the potential to steal or do evil even Templars...we see that with Televangelists going to jail for embezzlement. Just see the presence of the skill line as the skill line equivalent of the temptation to do evil that you must remain vigilant against.
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spartaxoxo wrote: »The Troves are only able to be opened by those associated with the Thieves Guild. It is filled by thieves with stolen items.
That isn't quite correct... as long as the Thieves' Guild DLC is unlocked, you can open the troves. This grants the guild skill line automatically, even though you can't improve it unless you start the TG quest.
You should be able to open them only with the TG passive after joining the guild (Quen's quest), but that's not the case.
Addendum: just took an alt to Abah's Landing, and the Gold Coast, she didn't get the skill lines. Try it out yourself with an alt if you don't trust me. 😉
spartaxoxo wrote: »The only thing you gain is the thieves troves. I still wonder why it's considered stealing if you empty those. As in who are you actually stealing from? Other thieves? But you can sell that stuff without issue at fences. Maybe there should be an option to turn them in at the authorities somewhere?
Addendum: just took an alt to Abah's Landing, and the Gold Coast, she didn't get the skill lines. Try it out yourself with an alt if you don't trust me. 😉
The Troves are only able to be opened by those associated with the Thieves Guild. It is filled by thieves with stolen items.
Carcamongus wrote: »My grumpy necro who doesn't do most questlines can open thieves troves just fine despite not being associated with the guild, I think opening one even unlocked the Thieves Guild skill line for him.
What I'm afraid off is if I get the thieves skill line, my character will then be tagged as a member of the guild, like when you have the Dark Brotherhood skill line and It comes up in dialouge in both Murkmire and Blackwood.
Addendum: just took an alt to Abah's Landing, and the Gold Coast, she didn't get the skill lines. Try it out yourself with an alt if you don't trust me. 😉
I did with an alt, you do get the thieves skill line when visiting Abah's Landing but not Dark Brotherhood when visiting the Gold Coast
spartaxoxo wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »The Troves are only able to be opened by those associated with the Thieves Guild. It is filled by thieves with stolen items.
That isn't quite correct... as long as the Thieves' Guild DLC is unlocked, you can open the troves. This grants the guild skill line automatically, even though you can't improve it unless you start the TG quest.
You should be able to open them only with the TG passive after joining the guild (Quen's quest), but that's not the case.
That's how it works gameplay wise. But lorewise, the reason it's considered stealing is because only people associated with the Thieves Guild can open it. It's even in the passive description.
SeaGtGruff wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »The Troves are only able to be opened by those associated with the Thieves Guild. It is filled by thieves with stolen items.
That isn't quite correct... as long as the Thieves' Guild DLC is unlocked, you can open the troves. This grants the guild skill line automatically, even though you can't improve it unless you start the TG quest.
You should be able to open them only with the TG passive after joining the guild (Quen's quest), but that's not the case.
That's how it works gameplay wise. But lorewise, the reason it's considered stealing is because only people associated with the Thieves Guild can open it. It's even in the passive description.
So you could say that they're like puzzle boxes that can only be opened by people who know the secret trick to opening them. In this case, only members of the Thieves Guild possess the knowledge of how to open them.
SeaGtGruff wrote: »So you could say that they're like puzzle boxes that can only be opened by people who know the secret trick to opening them. In this case, only members of the Thieves Guild possess the knowledge of how to open them.
Addendum: just took an alt to Abah's Landing, and the Gold Coast, she didn't get the skill lines. Try it out yourself with an alt if you don't trust me. 😉