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Notable Homes and Wayshrines

Shagreth
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Is it intended that so many of them have the wayshrine so far from the entrance? Take Lakemire Xanmeer Manor for example, it's so ridiculously far from a wayshrine, or the upcoming Linchal Grand Manor. Please fix this, or better yet -- give us a furnishing that acts as a wayshrine, it's long overdue.
  • SithisKhajitiiLamae
    Houses can be used as free wayshrines so why would they others be put closer to a house?
  • Necrotech_Master
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    could just port to outside another house near a wayshrine, or beam me up (if on pc) lol
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    could just port to outside another house near a wayshrine, or beam me up (if on pc) lol
    I shouldn't have to do that, I mean, paying more than 100$ for a house should at least provide me with a wayshrine that I can reach easily. They should just think about that and always put a wayshrine nearby, it really isn't that hard.
    Edited by Shagreth on May 19, 2023 9:01PM
  • LunaFlora
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    wayshrines shouldn't be everywhere. it would be useful for gameplay sure, but npcs don't use wayshrines for fast travel just us players so i think it'd be odd if every house we can buy had a wayshrine near it.

    you can always use a house that's near a wayshrine or pay 146 gold or even less if you have the champion ability that reduces the price to ~70 gold.
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  • Northwold
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    Shagreth wrote: »
    could just port to outside another house near a wayshrine, or beam me up (if on pc) lol
    I shouldn't have to do that, I mean, paying more than 100$ for a house should at least provide me with wayshrine that I can reach easily. They should just think about that and always put a wayshrine nearby, it really isn't that hard.

    There are some ultra cheap houses, eg the Rosy lion (?) in Daggerfall, very close to wayshrines. That one has the added advantage of using the barmen as merchants to dump your stuff. Since porting between your houses is free, in practice a wayshrine near every house is completely unnecessary.

    I think, given that many houses are placed in places away from other activity, putting wayshrines near them all could well end up cluttering the world in a seemingly random way for everyone else.
    Edited by Northwold on May 19, 2023 7:02PM
  • katanagirl1
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    Having a wayshrine near the house is definitely a factor in whether I will purchase or not. Princely Dawnlight house comes to mind.

    Yes, you can port to another house but I think the wayshrine location should be taken into account by the devs when they design it.
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  • Necrotech_Master
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    Northwold wrote: »
    Shagreth wrote: »
    could just port to outside another house near a wayshrine, or beam me up (if on pc) lol
    I shouldn't have to do that, I mean, paying more than 100$ for a house should at least provide me with wayshrine that I can reach easily. They should just think about that and always put a wayshrine nearby, it really isn't that hard.

    There are some ultra cheap houses, eg the Rosy lion (?) in Daggerfall, very close to wayshrines. That one has the added advantage of using the barmen as merchants to dump your stuff. Since porting between your houses is free, in practice a wayshrine near every house is completely unnecessary.

    I think, given that many houses are placed in places away from other activity, putting wayshrines near them all could well end up cluttering the world in a seemingly random way for everyone else.

    and to go along with this since you an port outside of your house for free, those remote houses can act as a free wayshrine in a sense, then you could just port to another one to return to town

    this is what i usually do with 71 houses lol
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    feel free to stop by and use the facilities
  • Shagreth
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    Having a wayshrine near the house is definitely a factor in whether I will purchase or not. Princely Dawnlight house comes to mind.

    Yes, you can port to another house but I think the wayshrine location should be taken into account by the devs when they design it.
    Yeah, and it has nothing to do with the 70 or 140 gold, which is never the case because if you ported to your house -- you have the increased cost. The fewer loading screens the better. ZOS has definitely gotten better with this, it's usually the older houses that have this issue, going back and placing a wayshrine in some of the more problematic ones wouldn't be too hard.
  • Ulvich
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    Shagreth wrote: »
    could just port to outside another house near a wayshrine, or beam me up (if on pc) lol
    I shouldn't have to do that, I mean, paying more than 100$ for a house should at least provide me with wayshrine that I can reach easily. They should just think about that and always put a wayshrine nearby, it really isn't that hard.

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  • mrfrontman
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    +1 to Wayshrine Furnishing.
  • FantasticFreddie
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    Shagreth wrote: »
    could just port to outside another house near a wayshrine, or beam me up (if on pc) lol
    I shouldn't have to do that, I mean, paying more than 100$ for a house should at least provide me with a wayshrine that I can reach easily. They should just think about that and always put a wayshrine nearby, it really isn't that hard.

    I am not spending $100 for a wayshrine, I am buying a creative project to work on.
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    I am not spending $100 for a wayshrine, I am buying a creative project to work on.
    Someone did make this kind of comment, I'm impressed.

    Anyway, most small/medium homes have a wayshrine nearby, obviously one wouldn't spend 100$ for a wayshrine, but I find it odd that the wayshrine wasn't even taken into account for some notable houses.



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    As far as the Linchal Grand Manor in the Gold Coast, I find it pretty convenient to use despite it not being very close to either the wayshrine near Kvatch or the wayshrine near the Dark Brotherhood sanctuary. The Gold Coast is a small zone, so it really doesn't take long to ride from the manor to either of those wayshrines.

    But if you're looking for a manor that's close to a wayshrine, one possible choice is the Wraithhome in Rivenspire-- which is currently unavailable, although it's returned to the Crown Store at least twice that I know of.
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  • Tandor
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    Shagreth wrote: »
    I am not spending $100 for a wayshrine, I am buying a creative project to work on.
    Someone did make this kind of comment, I'm impressed.

    Anyway, most small/medium homes have a wayshrine nearby, obviously one wouldn't spend 100$ for a wayshrine, but I find it odd that the wayshrine wasn't even taken into account for some notable houses.

    I suspect many players would appreciate a notable house being off the beaten track. Who wants to exit the door of a house that cost $100 only to step into the middle of a duel at a wayshrine?
  • Kusto
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    Wayshrine distance is no issue. It only costs 73 gold from your house. I don't get people. You have millions to buy and decorate the house but are too cheap to pay 73g lol.
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    Northwold wrote: »
    Shagreth wrote: »
    could just port to outside another house near a wayshrine, or beam me up (if on pc) lol
    I shouldn't have to do that, I mean, paying more than 100$ for a house should at least provide me with wayshrine that I can reach easily. They should just think about that and always put a wayshrine nearby, it really isn't that hard.

    There are some ultra cheap houses, eg the Rosy lion (?) in Daggerfall, very close to wayshrines. That one has the added advantage of using the barmen as merchants to dump your stuff. Since porting between your houses is free, in practice a wayshrine near every house is completely unnecessary.

    I think, given that many houses are placed in places away from other activity, putting wayshrines near them all could well end up cluttering the world in a seemingly random way for everyone else.

    and to go along with this since you an port outside of your house for free, those remote houses can act as a free wayshrine in a sense, then you could just port to another one to return to town

    this is what i usually do with 71 houses lol

    This is a reason I like that not every house is near a wayshrine. Some of them let you pay a premium to quickly get to areas you wouldn't get to using a wayshrine. Snugpod could be closer to the wayshrine but I do prefer it's actually closer to the writ turn-in.
    Edited by spartaxoxo on May 19, 2023 11:06PM
  • Shagreth
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    Tandor wrote: »
    I suspect many players would appreciate a notable house being off the beaten track. Who wants to exit the door of a house that cost $100 only to step into the middle of a duel at a wayshrine?
    I've never seen this happen in all my 8 years of playing, its only near the main city ones etc. Besides, the houses that lack wayshrines are already out in the sticks, adding one won't exactly make people swarm to duel at lakemire frigging xanmeer.

    Edited by Shagreth on May 19, 2023 11:24PM
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    Tandor wrote: »
    Shagreth wrote: »
    I am not spending $100 for a wayshrine, I am buying a creative project to work on.
    Someone did make this kind of comment, I'm impressed.

    Anyway, most small/medium homes have a wayshrine nearby, obviously one wouldn't spend 100$ for a wayshrine, but I find it odd that the wayshrine wasn't even taken into account for some notable houses.

    I suspect many players would appreciate a notable house being off the beaten track. Who wants to exit the door of a house that cost $100 only to step into the middle of a duel at a wayshrine?

    As one who has owned Linchal Grand manor since it came out many moons ago people dueling outside of it wouldn't matter one bit to me and I'd be ecstatic to have a convenient wayshrine outside of the door - or much better a way shrine furnishing that I can use without leaving the instance.
  • TaSheen
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    Personally I like the fact that I have houses not near cities or wayshrines.
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  • Carlos93
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    The solution could be to place an NPC that allows us to transport ourselves to the main cities of the alliances.
    These NPCs would be furniture that can be completed with achievements or through a mission.
    Other NPCs with the same function would be for sale in the Crown Store.
    These NPCs are like the transport NPCs that you can find at the city docks.
    Edited by Carlos93 on May 19, 2023 11:54PM
  • SeaGtGruff
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    If you just need a free port to a conveniently-close wayshrine, one of the rooms at the inns that new players can get for free are all reasonably close to wayshrines, some more so than others. The one in Rimmen is especially handy for that, although the ones in Vulkhel Guard and Daggerfall are also handy.
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  • Jaraal
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    Having a wayshrine near the house is definitely a factor in whether I will purchase or not. Princely Dawnlight house comes to mind.

    Yes, you can port to another house but I think the wayshrine location should be taken into account by the devs when they design it.

    I suppose 73 gold is still a lot of coin to some people. But I don't mind paying it to avoid a few seconds of running, when necessary.
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    Jaraal wrote: »
    Having a wayshrine near the house is definitely a factor in whether I will purchase or not. Princely Dawnlight house comes to mind.

    Yes, you can port to another house but I think the wayshrine location should be taken into account by the devs when they design it.

    I suppose 73 gold is still a lot of coin to some people. But I don't mind paying it to avoid a few seconds of running, when necessary.

    The gold amount is not the issue. It is the function you get from a wayshrine. Like a house has a balcony or not. These houses cost 100$. You should get all the perks for the most expensive houses.

    I suggested this many times before, a wayshrine furnishing. It's not hard to do, the assets exist in the game, it's not something that needs to be invented. And those who like using Rosy Lion as a teleport, can continue doing so.
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  • Shagreth
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    The gold amount is not the issue. It is the function you get from a wayshrine. Like a house has a balcony or not. These houses cost 100$. You should get all the perks for the most expensive houses.

    I suggested this many times before, a wayshrine furnishing. It's not hard to do, the assets exist in the game, it's not something that needs to be invented. And those who like using Rosy Lion as a teleport, can continue doing so.
    In these forums I sometimes feel like people just argue for the sake of arguing. Anyway, yeah, I don't understand why a furnishing that acts as a wayshrine isn't a thing yet, it would solve the problem completely for people living in the sticks. @ZOS_GinaBruno Can we please have this? I have seen this being suggested many times over the years.
  • spartaxoxo
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    Wayshrines are an important gold sink and way to make the map feel alive. I don't think there should be a wayshrine furnishing.
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    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    Wayshrines are an important gold sink and way to make the map feel alive. I don't think there should be a wayshrine furnishing.
    So you're actually saying that having a wayshrine furnishing where people can telelort out after visiting their homes is going to somehow make the world feel less alive? Are you seriously saying this?

    This is some crazy hyperbole my man. Also, wayshrines stopped being a gold sink a few years back.
    Edited by Shagreth on May 20, 2023 8:01AM
  • Hamish999
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    Having wayshrines away from houses (I have every house that is available for gold and a few that are for crowns) gives me more places to port to on any given map. Making questing, doing surveys etc much easier.
    Having too many wayshrines beside houses would make those wayshrines irrelevant.
    Edited by Hamish999 on May 20, 2023 8:04AM
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    Hamish999 wrote: »
    Having wayshrines away from houses (I have every house that is available for gold and a few that are for crowns) gives me more places to port to on any given map. Making questing, doing surveys etc much easier.
    Having too many wayshrines beside houses would make the wayshrines irrelevant.
    How exactly would wayshrines become irrelevant if they placed a few ones near homes like Xanmeer or Linchal? The houses with this problem are very few, I'm not talking about literally evey house having a wayshrine right outside or something.
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    Shagreth wrote: »
    Hamish999 wrote: »
    Having wayshrines away from houses (I have every house that is available for gold and a few that are for crowns) gives me more places to port to on any given map. Making questing, doing surveys etc much easier.
    Having too many wayshrines beside houses would make the wayshrines irrelevant.
    How exactly would wayshrines become irrelevant if they placed a few ones near homes like Xanmeer or Linchal? The houses with this problem are very few, I'm not talking about literally evey house having a wayshrine right outside or something.

    Because I'd never use those wayshrines and it is moving a wayshrine from somewhere else more useful on the map.
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  • spartaxoxo
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    Shagreth wrote: »
    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    Wayshrines are an important gold sink and way to make the map feel alive. I don't think there should be a wayshrine furnishing.
    So you're actually saying that having a wayshrine furnishing where people can telelort out after visiting their homes is going to somehow make the world feel less alive? Are you seriously saying this?

    This is some crazy hyperbole my man. Also, wayshrines stopped being a gold sink a few years back.

    Yes. Wayshrines are a major focal point in maps. Lots of people coming and going around them. So yes, I think a bunch of people using them in solo instances would make things feel less lively.

    Wayshrines still remove billions from the economy each week. During the Zeal of Zenithar event, 2.7 billion coin was saved by players because of a 75% discount.
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    Edited by spartaxoxo on May 20, 2023 8:14AM
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