Heads up, Pelinal's Ferocity overrides Anniversary XP buff

ApoAlaia

I feel like I should have known better, but I guess with the Mayhem schedule in previous years I never encountered this; by the time the 2nd Mayhem took place the Anniversary XP buff would have been gone already.

Either way I usually get the Mayhem quest with all my chars because well, free stuff right?

This morning I absent mindedly went through my daily writs with all my chars and at the same time I did the 'introductory quest' with all of them.

Between the early hour and the fact that this activity is pretty much 'muscle memory' by now after many years of doing it 20-28 times every single day my brain just didn't register that I was shooting myself in the foot.

If I'm not the only one that didn't know about this, use your XP boost before drinking from basin/using that scroll... or else

Tenthirty2

Please correct me if I'm mistaken, because you mention the Jubilee but also talk about the basin and the Mayhem scroll?

But if you are talking about the Jubilee XP buff, it's only valid during the Jubilee?
Even tho it will show in active buffs until it runs out, once the event is done the XP buff is not active.

At least that is what I've come to understand.

LuC1ll3atTh3Wh33L

Tenthirty2 wrote: »

Please correct me if I'm mistaken, because you mention the Jubilee but also talk about the basin and the Mayhem scroll?

But if you are talking about the Jubilee XP buff, it's only valid during the Jubilee?
Even tho it will show in active buffs until it runs out, once the event is done the XP buff is not active.

At least that is what I've come to understand.

ditto

TaSheen

Tenthirty2 wrote: »

Please correct me if I'm mistaken, because you mention the Jubilee but also talk about the basin and the Mayhem scroll?

But if you are talking about the Jubilee XP buff, it's only valid during the Jubilee?
Even tho it will show in active buffs until it runs out, once the event is done the XP buff is not active.

At least that is what I've come to understand.

It lasts and is valid for increased XP (and also stacks with XP scrolls) until the timer on it runs out. Which is really fast for my mains as I do play them more, but many of my alts are still "wearing" both an XP scroll and the Jubilee buff. After the even ends you can't rebuff using the cake, but the buff you still have is active.

TybaltKaine

TaSheen wrote: »

It lasts and is valid for increased XP (and also stacks with XP scrolls) until the timer on it runs out. Which is really fast for my mains as I do play them more, but many of my alts are still "wearing" both an XP scroll and the Jubilee buff. After the even ends you can't rebuff using the cake, but the buff you still have is active.

This. I've got characters who still have the Witches buff active. As long as the timer is on, the buff is active.

Four_Fingers

Yes it lasts till the timer runs out, but new event buffs have always overridden and replaced the previous event buff.

Grizzbeorn

TaSheen wrote: »

It lasts and is valid for increased XP (and also stacks with XP scrolls) until the timer on it runs out.

This is how I've understood (and I believe, have observed) it to work.

HOWEVER, I do not think it is supposed to work across events; i.e., an XP buff from a particular event would not work in a different event.
(though, I've never had an opportunity to test that belief.)

Tenthirty2

TaSheen wrote: »

Tenthirty2 wrote: »

Please correct me if I'm mistaken, because you mention the Jubilee but also talk about the basin and the Mayhem scroll?

But if you are talking about the Jubilee XP buff, it's only valid during the Jubilee?
Even tho it will show in active buffs until it runs out, once the event is done the XP buff is not active.

At least that is what I've come to understand.

It lasts and is valid for increased XP (and also stacks with XP scrolls) until the timer on it runs out. Which is really fast for my mains as I do play them more, but many of my alts are still "wearing" both an XP scroll and the Jubilee buff. After the even ends you can't rebuff using the cake, but the buff you still have is active.

TIL
Thank you for clarifying that!
In my defense ZoS is not usually overly forthcoming with extra bonuses, etc so honestly I'd just assumed the bonus ended when the event ended lol.

Again, many thanks!

The3sFinest

As always has been the case for years. Any new event xp/ap buff overrides the old one.

TaSheen

Grizzbeorn wrote: »

TaSheen wrote: »

It lasts and is valid for increased XP (and also stacks with XP scrolls) until the timer on it runs out.

This is how I've understood (and I believe, have observed) it to work.

HOWEVER, I do not think it is supposed to work across events; i.e., an XP buff from a particular event would not work in a different event.
(though, I've never had an opportunity to test that belief.)

I've had Witches still work in New Life IIRC - that was a couple years back - and was an accident: I forgot to drink the mead on one character, but she still got the extra XP from having the Witches buff still active. But I don't know if it still works that way, because that was a total space-cadet moment on my part!

And of course, thinking back that far now, she might have had an XP scroll active, in which case what I though happened might not have!

Grizzbeorn

TaSheen wrote: »

Grizzbeorn wrote: »

TaSheen wrote: »

It lasts and is valid for increased XP (and also stacks with XP scrolls) until the timer on it runs out.

This is how I've understood (and I believe, have observed) it to work.

HOWEVER, I do not think it is supposed to work across events; i.e., an XP buff from a particular event would not work in a different event.
(though, I've never had an opportunity to test that belief.)

I've had Witches still work in New Life IIRC - that was a couple years back - and was an accident: I forgot to drink the mead on one character, but she still got the extra XP from having the Witches buff still active. But I don't know if it still works that way, because that was a total space-cadet moment on my part!

And of course, thinking back that far now, she might have had an XP scroll active, in which case what I though happened might not have!

Perhaps it does work UNTIL the new buff is activated. Seems like that could be possible.
Difficult to know for sure without testing (or ZOS chiming in about it.)

TaSheen

True. If I remember until Witches this year and then into New Life, I'll test it. Since I'm old, you don't want to hold your breath though!

Grizzbeorn

TaSheen wrote: »

True. If I remember until Witches this year and then into New Life, I'll test it. Since I'm old, you don't want to hold your breath though!

I'm right up there with ya. And holding my breath would probably trigger a coughing fit.

virtus753

Four_Fingers wrote: »

Yes it lasts till the timer runs out, but new event buffs have always overridden and replaced the previous event buff.

No, they didn’t used to. If you had a Jester’s buff, you would end up renewing the Jester’s buff if you used the Anniversary cake. I used to do that pretty much all through Anniversary.

The problem was not with the xp ones but that once Midyear was over, using an XP buff on that character who still had time on Pelinal’s scroll renewed Pelinal’s rather than applying the pure XP buff. You also couldn’t even manually remove Pelinal’s after the event so you could use an XP buff instead - you had to let the timer expire on its own.

virtus753

Paulytnz wrote: »

I don't see the issue here, if anything all that happened was your XP buff, no matter which it is from, from whatever event or collection tool was simply extended. Again, I see no issue here.....

Because Pelinal’s is primarily an AP buff and only gives XP for PvP. The XP buffs from other events give 100% extra XP from all sources (but no double AP). Refreshing Jester’s with Anniversary or Witches or New Life is not a problem. Refreshing Pelinal’s is, since that is not the same buff.

When I ended up with all my alts stuck with Pelinal’s but I wanted them to get 100% extra XP from random normals or master writs for the next XP event, I couldn’t do that without letting each scroll wear off separately. That’s potentially 36 hours of waiting around for a buff to wear off. It wasn’t manually removable, which would have solved the issue. Support had to remove it from 17 of my characters so I could use the actual double XP buff.

kringled_1

Paulytnz wrote: »

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The xp buff was removed and replaced with an ap buff. They are not the same and I think it's reasonable to let other players make informed decisions about which buff is important to them.

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wenchmore420b14_ESO

TybaltKaine wrote: »

TaSheen wrote: »

It lasts and is valid for increased XP (and also stacks with XP scrolls) until the timer on it runs out. Which is really fast for my mains as I do play them more, but many of my alts are still "wearing" both an XP scroll and the Jubilee buff. After the even ends you can't rebuff using the cake, but the buff you still have is active.

This. I've got characters who still have the Witches buff active. As long as the timer is on, the buff is active.

This.. I still have alts with old buffs still active.

ApoAlaia

Tenthirty2 wrote: »

Please correct me if I'm mistaken, because you mention the Jubilee but also talk about the basin and the Mayhem scroll?

But if you are talking about the Jubilee XP buff, it's only valid during the Jubilee?
Even tho it will show in active buffs until it runs out, once the event is done the XP buff is not active.

At least that is what I've come to understand.

The XP buff remains active after the event is over, is just the fact that you cannot refresh it anymore.

Still is a couple of hours of 2XP until it runs out.

On characters that only do writs it goes a long way - it only takes a couple of minutes from logging in to logging out.

Because the scroll/basin gives you AP buff rather than XP buff I didn't even consider that it would override the Anniversary buff.

Turns out it does. TIL.