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Appreciation thread - Impaired player first solo "trifecta" (FG1). Thanks devs!

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(Added relevant context details in the edit below)

Today I did a No-Death, Speedrun, Veteran Hard Mode of Fungal Grotto 1, in solo with Bastian. I had to stop playing due to hands pain after that (nerves issues) but still I've been able to achieve it and the satisfaction was immense. Have to admit I'd have died couple of times if it wasn't for Bastian (so thanks for Companions!)

I really thank you, devs, because just one year ago this was only a dream for me since I am not fully physically able. The actual state live of Oakensoul gave me an opportunity I would otherwise never had. You are awesome! Please continue on this path of improvements!

To players: see this thread as an opportunity to show your achievements obtained thanks to various updates, they are welcome! :)
But please, don't discuss the state of builds, skills, item sets, etc. here. It's not the place...

Edit: in the CP 1.0 system I was at the level cap of 810CP. I used to run Hunding + Spriggan but still there were many base game world bosses I couldn't solo. Being able to achieve something like this now it's the reason why I praise the devs for the direction the game has taken. I'm moved by the changes... again, thanks! 🥹 And keep it up.
Edited by SkaiFaith on May 4, 2023 12:54PM
A: "We, as humans, should respect and take care of each other like in a Co-op, not a PvP 🌸"
B: "Too many words. Words bad. Won't read. ⚔️"
  • AScarlato
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    Congratulations on your win! Love to see it!
  • SkaiFaith
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    Thank you AScarlato! I was in disbelief when all the achievements showed up, so excited!
    A: "We, as humans, should respect and take care of each other like in a Co-op, not a PvP 🌸"
    B: "Too many words. Words bad. Won't read. ⚔️"
  • kynesgrove
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    Super Congratulations!

    I think soloing dungeons and content is one of the most fun, challenging and satisfying things to do!
    It takes a lot of problem solving that in itself can be gratifying. Once again congratulations!
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    Kynesgrove, I absolutely agree, I enjoyed it sooo much, even if it was my first time and even though the pain was a bit of a struggle, but man if it was gratifying...!
    Thank you very much~

    Hope I'll be able to achieve some more next...
    A: "We, as humans, should respect and take care of each other like in a Co-op, not a PvP 🌸"
    B: "Too many words. Words bad. Won't read. ⚔️"
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    Thank you Aislinna and spartaxoxo!

    Question: how far am I from when I should try soloing Normal DLC Dungeons?
    I heard they are way more difficult than base game so I avoided them until now.... Should I give them a go, or would I be smashed in them?

    P.s. I remember entering FG1 in 2017 at around level 15 and getting demolished by the first group of goblins and turning immediately my back to group dungeons... What a journey it has been since then!
    Edited by SkaiFaith on May 4, 2023 4:23AM
    A: "We, as humans, should respect and take care of each other like in a Co-op, not a PvP 🌸"
    B: "Too many words. Words bad. Won't read. ⚔️"
  • FrancisCrawford
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    SkaiFaith wrote: »
    Thank you Aislinna and spartaxoxo!

    Question: how far am I from when I should try soloing Normal DLC Dungeons?
    I heard they are way more difficult than base game so I avoided them until now.... Should I give them a go, or would I be smashed in them?

    P.s. I remember entering FG1 in 2017 at around level 15 and getting demolished by the first group of goblins and turning immediately my back to group dungeons... What a journey it has been since then!

    How easy do you find it to do normal Crypt of Hearts 2, City of Ash 2, and so on? Unless those are straightforward for you, you probably shouldn't try DLC dungeons yet.

    That said, there are certain dungeons with mechanics that make them particularly hard to solo, like Wayrest Sewers 2 or Blackheart Haven; those have mechanics that make them hard to survive solo unless you either build carefully to survive the particular mechanic, or have enough DPS to never see the mechanic in the first place. So don't despair if you get hung up on one or the other of those.
    Edited by FrancisCrawford on May 6, 2023 3:32PM
  • Aislinna
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    SkaiFaith wrote: »
    Thank you Aislinna and spartaxoxo!

    Question: how far am I from when I should try soloing Normal DLC Dungeons?
    I heard they are way more difficult than base game so I avoided them until now.... Should I give them a go, or would I be smashed in them?

    P.s. I remember entering FG1 in 2017 at around level 15 and getting demolished by the first group of goblins and turning immediately my back to group dungeons... What a journey it has been since then!

    The only way to know is to give it a try. If you are doing base game trifectas, I'm guessing normal dlc is within your reach.
    Go for it and good Luck. :)
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    SkaiFaith wrote: »
    Question: how far am I from when I should try soloing Normal DLC Dungeons?
    I heard they are way more difficult than base game so I avoided them until now.... Should I give them a go, or would I be smashed in them?

    As a dungeoneer I'd recommend try every one of them to decide, thing is they're not the same and whilst some might seem undoable absolute most of them are with some clever use of abilities which are pretty satisfying to pull off. In eso you literally lose nothing by death, so death rush a boss is a valid strategy until it clicks or to figure out how to deal with it.

    Tldr is you lose nothing by trying it out, at the very minimum you're testing your progress and would be able to compare it later when you'll progress past through them.

  • Djennku
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    Congrats!
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    Thank you everybody for the inputs!

    Crypt of Hearts 2 and City of Ash 2 I can clear them but honestly I tend to skip them because they are too tedious for my tastes; they are one and done for me, not pledges I like to repeat.
    On the other hand I cleared Wayrest Sewers 1 in Veteran multiple times with no issues, to complete Slimecraw.
    I've given up on Blackheart Haven because when solo you are 100% of the time in skeleton form...

    I'd like to try something like Depths of malatar for the good sets, but I imagine they are on another level of difficulty.
    Maybe I'll try starting with something easier on me like Falkreath hold - I know many can solo it...

    Thanks again folks :)
    A: "We, as humans, should respect and take care of each other like in a Co-op, not a PvP 🌸"
    B: "Too many words. Words bad. Won't read. ⚔️"
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    One thing I might add is, some bosses' mechs do not affects tanks, so if you taunt the boss, you won't be affected by them even as a solo player. One example is Mazzatun last boss. If you can keep up a taunt (inner rage most likely depending on build) on her, you will never get the statue mechs while solo.
    Edited by Djennku on May 4, 2023 6:48AM
    @Djennku, PCNA.

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    Vamp and WW bites available for players.
    Shoot me an in-game mail if you need anything, happy to help!
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    @Djennku oh, that's awesome! Thank you for sharing; yes my build utilizes Inner rage, good to know!
    A: "We, as humans, should respect and take care of each other like in a Co-op, not a PvP 🌸"
    B: "Too many words. Words bad. Won't read. ⚔️"
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    SkaiFaith wrote: »
    I really thank you, devs, because just one year ago this was only a dream for me since I am not fully physically able. The actual state live of Oakensoul gave me an opportunity I would otherwise never had. You are awesome! Please continue on this path of improvements!

    Congratulations on the achievement.
    But honestly, I'm not sure if you should thank the devs. Supposedly, things will be changed so that players with greater difficulty won't have a chance to achieve such objectives. Things are still not clear, but everything suggests that in the next patch, Zenimax will not allow you to reach such achievements again. Simply because you're not as good as others.
    Edited by Tradewind on May 4, 2023 7:27AM
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    Tradewind wrote: »
    SkaiFaith wrote: »
    I really thank you, devs, because just one year ago this was only a dream for me since I am not fully physically able. The actual state live of Oakensoul gave me an opportunity I would otherwise never had. You are awesome! Please continue on this path of improvements!
    But honestly, I'm not sure if you should thank the devs. Supposedly, things will be changed so that players with greater difficulty won't have a chance to achieve such objectives. Things are still not clear, but everything suggests that in the next patch, Zenimax will not allow you to reach such achievements again. Simply because you're not as good as others.

    Oaken playstyle isn't going away by any stretch next patch looking at PTS patch notes. They've tweaked the numbers a little bit but as for what OP was able to achieve it's not gonna make it impossible next patch nor would make progress much harder as in actual combat scenario difference isn't significant enough to change anything. It's also semi-new playstyle, which was singlehandedly created by zos for a reason, previous iterations of one bar ha builds were way different thing lacking in multiple departments.

    Edit: it's still players achievement, not a zenimax one, but previously it was a community solution and now it's kinda official way of going forward with one bar.
    Edited by colossalvoids on May 4, 2023 7:53AM
  • Liguar
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    Congrats! And thanks for sharing, it's nice to see!
    Aislinna wrote: »
    The only way to know is to give it a try. If you are doing base game trifectas, I'm guessing normal dlc is within your reach.
    Go for it and good Luck. :)

    I agree, you give it a shot and see. Worst case you go splat and re-evaluate. Personally I enjoy every bit of progress, even if it's not the complete dungeon.
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    SkaiFaith wrote: »
    I've given up on Blackheart Haven
    Precognition ult most likely still works or werewolf form (Ring of Pale Order will help a lot). Make sure to use Minor Heroism potions, just in case.

    Also, Congratulations!
  • Raammzzaa
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    Congratulations! gg
  • SkaiFaith
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    Thank you all, and to Liguar: "it's nice to see" that despite some occasional hate this game has a so nice and welcoming community :wink:
    A: "We, as humans, should respect and take care of each other like in a Co-op, not a PvP 🌸"
    B: "Too many words. Words bad. Won't read. ⚔️"
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    SkaiFaith wrote: »
    Thank you Aislinna and spartaxoxo!

    Question: how far am I from when I should try soloing Normal DLC Dungeons?
    I heard they are way more difficult than base game so I avoided them until now.... Should I give them a go, or would I be smashed in them?

    P.s. I remember entering FG1 in 2017 at around level 15 and getting demolished by the first group of goblins and turning immediately my back to group dungeons... What a journey it has been since then!

    Fungal Grotto is the easiest base game dungeon of course, but if you can do it on veteran hard mode then you shouldn't be too worried to just try some DLC dungeons. Worst thing that can happen is some repair costs after all. 😉 It's mostly a matter of mechanics and figuring out a way to do them solo.
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    I made an edit to the original post. I'll copy it here, it adds context details to the reason why I'm happy and thanking the devs.

    "In the CP 1.0 system I was at the level cap of 810CP. I used to run Hunding + Spriggan but still there were many base game world bosses I couldn't solo. Being able to achieve something like this now it's the reason why I praise the devs for the direction the game has taken. I'm moved by the changes... again, thanks! 🥹 And keep it up."
    Edited by SkaiFaith on May 4, 2023 12:54PM
    A: "We, as humans, should respect and take care of each other like in a Co-op, not a PvP 🌸"
    B: "Too many words. Words bad. Won't read. ⚔️"
  • LunaFlora
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    this is super awesome ! <3
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  • valenwood_vegan
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    Congrats!
  • SkaiFaith
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    Thank you very much LunaFlora and valenwood_vegan :smiley:
    A: "We, as humans, should respect and take care of each other like in a Co-op, not a PvP 🌸"
    B: "Too many words. Words bad. Won't read. ⚔️"
  • FrancisCrawford
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    SkaiFaith wrote: »
    Thank you everybody for the inputs!

    Crypt of Hearts 2 and City of Ash 2 I can clear them but honestly I tend to skip them because they are too tedious for my tastes; they are one and done for me, not pledges I like to repeat.
    On the other hand I cleared Wayrest Sewers 1 in Veteran multiple times with no issues, to complete Slimecraw.
    I've given up on Blackheart Haven because when solo you are 100% of the time in skeleton form...

    I'd like to try something like Depths of malatar for the good sets, but I imagine they are on another level of difficulty.
    Maybe I'll try starting with something easier on me like Falkreath hold - I know many can solo it...

    Thanks again folks :)

    @DarcyMardin and I have been duoing more DLC dungeons recently, and Falkreath Hold was one of the easiest we tried.

    White Gold Tower is an obvious one. When the first boss locks you in a cage, you need to get out FAST, so only try it on a character that's great at bashing locks. Other bosses are more straightforward if you have the DPS. That said, I've only duoed that dungeon on normal, and only done it on vet with a full group.
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    SkaiFaith wrote: »
    I've given up on Blackheart Haven because when solo you are 100% of the time in skeleton form...

    Sorry if someone already mentioned this (I didn't see it)... but it's possible to solo Blackheart Haven if your character is a werewolf. When you start fighting the final boss, shift into ww form and as long as you can maintain it, he can't turn you into a skeleton!
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    SkaiFaith wrote: »
    I've given up on Blackheart Haven because when solo you are 100% of the time in skeleton form...

    Sorry if someone already mentioned this (I didn't see it)... but it's possible to solo Blackheart Haven if your character is a werewolf. When you start fighting the final boss, shift into ww form and as long as you can maintain it, he can't turn you into a skeleton!

    Yeah, someone pointed it out. I have a WW but I don't play it since years ago; might try but it would require some work. Thanks anyway~
    A: "We, as humans, should respect and take care of each other like in a Co-op, not a PvP 🌸"
    B: "Too many words. Words bad. Won't read. ⚔️"
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    SkaiFaith wrote: »
    SkaiFaith wrote: »
    I've given up on Blackheart Haven because when solo you are 100% of the time in skeleton form...

    Sorry if someone already mentioned this (I didn't see it)... but it's possible to solo Blackheart Haven if your character is a werewolf. When you start fighting the final boss, shift into ww form and as long as you can maintain it, he can't turn you into a skeleton!

    Yeah, someone pointed it out. I have a WW but I don't play it since years ago; might try but it would require some work. Thanks anyway~

    The other standard trick is to use the Psijic Guild line ultimate.

    But I presume Captain Blackheart would need to be dead by his SECOND try to turn you into a skeleton.

    Also -- has anybody tested whether modern heavy attack builds do much to buff your attacks in skeleton form?
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    Congratulations. Great to hear about your success.
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