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Would you like a mythic that only gives Major Heroism at all times in battle ?
"Is it true her wounds healed on their own ? Yes" No s***, at 75% health regen penalty!
I was a vampire like you, but then I took an idea to the head...
I was a vampire like you, but then I took an idea to the head...
Would you like a mythic that only gives Major Heroism at all times in battle ? 34 votes
Want new mythic with only Major Heroism
35%
12 votes
Prefer Oakensoul with all its current buffs
64%
22 votes
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Auberon1983✭✭✭Prefer Oakensoul with all its current buffsThis was a tough one for me.
I've never used Oakensoul in PvP, only PvE. I don't even know how well it would hold up in PvP. I enjoy it on my MagBlade and (soon to be) MagSorc, because I am Scrub Team Six when it comes to PvE DPS (I prefer healing and tanking).
On the other hand, a Major Heroism mythic for PvP sounds fairly incredible, especially on my MagPlar healer. Getting off constant Barriers and Practiced Incantation sounds great.
If I absolutely have to choose, keep Oakensoul0 -
Dr_Con✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭no thanks to both. maybe from pots if you combine all 3 dragon reagents, but nothing else.3 -
nadrokal✭✭✭Between the battle roar passive and corrosive armor, my DK would love cheap major heroism with 100% uptime. Build for straight damage not sustain or defense? Yes please.1
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CE_Nex✭✭✭✭Prefer Oakensoul with all its current buffsMajor Heroism is too strong of a buff to have 100% uptime. It would be utterly broken in PvP and competitive PvE; it would immediately be the new meta. It was one of the reasons why it was removed from Oakensoul in the first place as it allowed for cheap ultimates to be cast too frequently. Sorcs were capable of putting down multiple atro ultimates in many raids when the old Oakensoul was used in conjunction with Minor Heroism potions and the Pillager's Profit set. And in PvP you just spam defensive ultimates making one nearly unkillable when paired with the then Mara's Balm set.
Major Heroism is definitely a buff that needs to be budgeted tightly in order to maintain healthy combat and balance.3 -
danno8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭People either forget or weren't around when Dynamic Ultimate generation was in the game. Permanent/overlapping Standard, Bat Swarm/any powerful Ultimate was a thing. And it was terrible.
So no. Major Heroism should be short and rare.
PS, the poll choices are ridiculous.Edited by danno8 on May 3, 2023 1:12PM4 -
FantasticFreddie✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I would like to have this mythic. I would not like anyone else to have it.8 -
BlueRaven✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭This thread might go smoother if you just said what major heroism actually does.
Major Heroism
Generates 3 Ultimate every 1.5 seconds.
https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Major+Heroism
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chessalavakia_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Prefer Oakensoul with all its current buffsI don't think Major Heroism on it's own is enough value to justify burning a Mythic item Slot in most content for most people
Further, with the new Transformative Hope Set which can grant Major Heroism and the Cryptcannon Vestments that can transfer it one might already be hitting more ultimate than some might wish in some areas.
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NordSwordnBoard✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Hero"s Super Form
Gain Major Heroism at all times. Only transformation ultimates may be slotted. It would be a helmet or shoulder so you can't use a monster 2pc and light armor. Even then, it would be pretty wild out there lolFear is the Mindkiller0 -
Soarora✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭No. It apparently broke PvP to have major heroism. Think you can get it from like drakes rush with some downtime anyways.PC/NA Dungeoneer (Tank/DPS/Heal), Trialist (DPS/Tank/Heal), and amateur Battlegrounder (DPS) with a passion for The Elder Scrolls lore- CP 2000+
- Warden Healer - Arcanist Healer - Warden Brittleden - Stamarc - Sorc Tank - Necro Tank - Templar Tank - Arcanist Tank
- Trials: 9/12 HMs - 3/8 Tris
- Dungeons: 30/30 HMs - 24/24 Tris
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jaws343✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It's interesting.
I think when it was attached to Oakensoul it was insane. With the right set combo, you could have 100% uptime on the Storm Atro, alongside all of the offensive and defensive buffs that Oakensoul provided. It was pretty wild, and in some cases, you could even have 2-3 Storm Atros active at the same time.
Now, a mythic with Only Major Heroism, maybe make it a Head piece to prevent a monster set combo, could be interesting. Yeah, you could still run an ult gen setup to get 100% uptime on some ults, and the same effectiveness of Storm Atro for example. But, you would be doing so without the benefit of all the buffs that Oakensoul provides. So it wouldn't be as overpowered, I don't think. And, on a more balanced build, it would just mean greater ultimate uptimes, rather than good uptimes paired with good damage.0 -
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✭There would need to be a very significant curse component to justify such a delicious kiss . 😘😵(AD) Artim X/Xirtām/Måtrix |PC/NA| Casual staff wielding vampire sorcerer/templar/arcanistElectric-Stunhttps://media.giphy.com/media/Av0zcKH3i2BkaY1GXW/giphy.gif/https://c.tenor.com/jQHdFftrgwMAAAAC/tenor.gifElectric-Pets- Roleplay Damage Dealing Build.
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (infused/shock enchant), and Kinras's jewelry (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused/flame/weapon damage enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Lightning Flood, Shocking Soul (Shock damage, Class Mastery Signature Script, and Empower), and Power Overload.
- Ability-Bar 2: Storm Pulsar, Streak, Shock Reach, Unstable Wall of Storms, Shocking Burst (Shock Damage, remove 1 negative effect, and interrupt) and Thunderous Rage.
Solo: Use Kinras's chest, replace Mora with Ring of the Pale Order, and use a heavy Slimcraw piece for max critical.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNHVjemwxZHI2ZmQ2bTg1ZG0xOTZ3b2QwajBzNGxmaHh6OXRpN3p6YSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/eBgWizk5dmZRS/giphy.gifElectric-Heal- Stress free one bar pet build .
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants. No chest piece), 1 medium Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, medium, Max Mag Enchants), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant ring and necklace (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant), Oakensoul ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)
- Ability-Bar: Daedric Prey, Summon Volatile Familiar, Bound Armaments, Unstable Wall of Storms, Summon Twilight Matriarch, and Greater storm Atronach.
https://media.giphy.com/media/5ibGIHneWS6ek/giphy.gifElectric-Ward- My Healer Build.
- Gear: 5 Spell Power Cure (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (Charged/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/restoration staff (Powered with absorb magicka enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Blessing of Restoration, Energy Orb, Twilight Matriarch, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Blockade of Storms, Twilight Matriarch, and Aggressive Horn.
https://media.giphy.com/media/Wa0TGmtDvwW3e/giphy.gifElectric-Vamp- My Meme Tank Build that uses high resistance and variety of wards.
- Gear: 5 Brands of Imperium (All body pieces except Head and Shoulders, with Divine trait, and with Prismatic Defense Enchants), full Iceheart (1 light and 1 medium. Divines and Prismatic Enchant), and Combat Physician jewelry (bloodthirsty with Prismatic Recovery Enchants), Combat Physician restoration staff (Infused with hardening enchant), and combat physician ice staff (Infused with crusher enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Bound Aegis, Deep Thoughts, Boundless Storm, Healing Ward, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Silver Leash (Elemental Drain if healer isn't running it), Bound Aegis, Frost Clench, Blockade of Frost, Empowered Ward, and Temporal Guard.
https://media.giphy.com/media/ukDQiYZzRAxMZKcK86/giphy.gifDawnfang- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (medium chest and body pieces light. All Impenetrable with Prismatic Enchants). Gaze of Sithis and 1 light Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton (light shoulders, and impenetrable with Prismtaic Enchants). Knight Slayer (Swift with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused with oblivion enchant)/restoration staff (infused with oblivion enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Boundless Storm, Soul Splitting Trap, Radiating Regeneration, Healing Ward, and Life Giver.
- Ability-Bar 2: Drain Vigor (Elemental Susceptibility), Race Against Time, Rune Cage, Radiant Magelight, Regenerative Ward, and Shatter Soul.
https://media.tenor.com/ogWfvDdsqBIAAAAd/anime-black-clover.gifDuskfang- My casual one bar heavy attack Templar build that primarily utilizes Aedric Spear abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Puncturing Sweep, Aurora Javelin, Toppling Charge, Blazing Spear, Radiant Ward/Breath of life, and Crescent Sweep.
https://media.tenor.com/Jo8aG_ouy_oAAAAd/ac-odyssey.gifEye of the Queen- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Radiant Oppression, Race Against Time, Aurora Javelin, Breath of Life, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fd/44/1c/fd441c8242af6ec35ada94496feb0901.gifEye of the King- My casual one bar heavy attack Arcanist build that primarily utilizes Herald of the Tome abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Pragmatic Fatecarver, Cephaliarch's Flail, Rune of Displacement, Inspired Scholarship/Evolving Runemend, and The Languid Eye.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExOTAzdjV1eTgwbDFmM3lrZmxuMXRqdDR3Y3h1ZDRpajR0M3VjZzQ3NSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/zXmbOaTpbY6mA/giphy.gifPvE Starter Gear- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Race Against Time, Rune of Uncanny Adoration, Evolving Runemend, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://media.giphy.com/media/6CovzgyTig7M4/giphy.gifRace- Gear: 5 Law of Julianos (heavy chest, gloves/belt light, and the rest can be light or 1 medium piece if you're not wearing medium anywhere else on your body. All in training if grinding for XP or divines), Armor of the Seducer or Magnus' Gift head, shoulder, and staves (light with 1 medium piece if you are not already wearing 1 medium Julianos piece. All in training or divines. The staves should be training or infused), and 3 purple Willpower Jewelry with Arcane trait (can be bought from trading guilds for relatively cheap.
- Check tamrieltradecentre.com for the best deals if you're not using a price checking addon).
https://media.giphy.com/media/sdEkeWpiaGz0A/giphy.gifMundus Stones- High elf, since you will not have issues with sustain, but other mag based races are also fine so this is more of a personal choice.
https://media.giphy.com/media/cT3wMhLGQWdKU/giphy.gifCurrent Champion Points- PvP: The Steed for speed. Gotta go fast!
- PvE Healing/Damage: The Thief for decent crit rate.
- PvE Tanking: The Lady to get close to resistance cap.
https://media.giphy.com/media/l4FGDAx6u3hthMhgI/giphy.gifFavorite Foods and Potions- DPS: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Exploiter, Weapons Expert, Fighting Finesse, Master-at-Arms, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Healer Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Hope Infusion, Weapon's Expert, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Tanky Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Ironclad, Enduring Resolve, Reinforced, Duelist's Rebuff, Bastion, Ward Master, Rejuvenation, Fortified.
- PvP Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, Occult Overload, Arcane Supremacy, Bastion, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- PvP Temp/Arcanist: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, From the Brink, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
https://media.giphy.com/media/3otPoTggaYFNd1FdAI/giphy.gif- Parse Food for PvE:(DPS) Ghastly Eye Bowl (increases Max Magicka by 4592 and Magicka Recovery by 459 for 2 hours).
- Gold/Purple Food for Sorc PvP and Meme Tanking:(PvP) Clockwork Citrus Filet (increases Max Health by 3326, Health Recovery by 406 [useful if stage 1 vampire], Max Magicka by 3080, and Magicka Recovery by 338 for 2 hours). Witchmother's Potent Brew (Increase Max Magicka by 2856, Max Health by 3094, and Magicka Recovery by 315 for 2 hours.
- Trash Potions when feeling cheap: Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
- Crafted Potions: Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy on my Sorc, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking). My templar/arcanist will mostly use Essence of Health (Tri-Stat Potion) Ingredients: (Mountain Flower, Columbine, and Bugloss).
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OBJnoob✭✭✭✭✭
✭As others have said... Permanent major heroism on the original oakensoul in addition to the plethora of other buffs (not without drawback to be fair,) was too strong. That is not the same however as a mythic that only gives major heroism.
Frankly I don't think many people would use it. DKs would at least attempt to use it, for sure, and we're all wary of DKs at the moment. But in an ESO where DKs aren't already reigning supreme I think this mythic would be fine. It would benefit DK more than others... And that would also be fine.
But so honestly I think it'd be a fine addition. DK needs nerfing NOW. I'm not going to judge future game items by how they add to a problem that shouldn't exist in the first place. It's not the item's fault. It doesn't even exist.0 -
jaws343✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭As others have said... Permanent major heroism on the original oakensoul in addition to the plethora of other buffs (not without drawback to be fair,) was too strong. That is not the same however as a mythic that only gives major heroism.
Frankly I don't think many people would use it. DKs would at least attempt to use it, for sure, and we're all wary of DKs at the moment. But in an ESO where DKs aren't already reigning supreme I think this mythic would be fine. It would benefit DK more than others... And that would also be fine.
But so honestly I think it'd be a fine addition. DK needs nerfing NOW. I'm not going to judge future game items by how they add to a problem that shouldn't exist in the first place. It's not the item's fault. It doesn't even exist.
I think my favorite use of the original Oakensoul with Major Heroism, was a build on a sorc that could spam meteors every 8 seconds. It was wild.
I'd definitely use a Major Heroism only ring in PVE at least. Getting more uptime on strong ults is useful.0 -
Necrotech_Master✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭when i saw the thread title i was going to be like "you can get slightly better ult gen than major heroism from the pearls, we dont need a mythic for major heroism"
but turns out its just a poll for buffing oakensoul lolplays PC/NA
handle @Necrotech_Master
active player since april 2014
i have my main house (grand topal hideaway) listed in the housing tours, it has multiple target dummies, scribing altar, and grandmaster stations (in progress being filled out), as well as almost every antiquity furnishing on display to preview them
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Dagoth_Rac✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭"Hero's Locket" - While equipped, you gain Major Heroism at all times. While equipped, you can gain no other major buffs.
Ultimates out of the wazoo. But no Major Berserk, no Major Protection, no Major Resolve, no Major Evasion, no Major Courage, no Major Endurance/Intellect/Fortitude, no Major Vitality, etc., etc.0 -
DreamyLu✭✭✭✭✭Usually, since I don't care, I would say that I don't mind.
But I prefer to show clearly that I have no interest for things I don't care about: so no please. Let it be as is. There are - for me - other priorities.Edited by DreamyLu on May 4, 2023 3:54AMI'm out of my mind, feel free to leave a message... PC/NA0 -
Want new mythic with only Major Heroismchessalavakia_ESO wrote: »I don't think Major Heroism on it's own is enough value to justify burning a Mythic item Slot in most content for most people
Further, with the new Transformative Hope Set which can grant Major Heroism and the Cryptcannon Vestments that can transfer it one might already be hitting more ultimate than some might wish in some areas.
Transformative Hope just makes me laugh. The proc condition is quite absurd - getting from 40% to 90% is doubtful. Cooldown is 5 seconds.
For a cooldown of 6 seconds, you could use Drake's Rush set. You just need to bash once."Is it true her wounds healed on their own ? Yes" No s***, at 75% health regen penalty!
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Want new mythic with only Major HeroismNordSwordnBoard wrote: »Hero"s Super Form
Gain Major Heroism at all times. Only transformation ultimates may be slotted. It would be a helmet or shoulder so you can't use a monster 2pc and light armor. Even then, it would be pretty wild out there lol
This would probably be on par with Shapeshifter's Chain : Reduce the cost of your Transformation Ultimate and Werewolf abilities by 15%."Is it true her wounds healed on their own ? Yes" No s***, at 75% health regen penalty!
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Want new mythic with only Major HeroismBetween the battle roar passive and corrosive armor, my DK would love cheap major heroism with 100% uptime. Build for straight damage not sustain or defense? Yes please.
Of course it would. My current DK build almost has perma-Magma. Magma is ready in about 17-20 seconds and it's still not good enough but I literally exhausted all Ultimate sources. It forces me to use Vampiric Drain which impeaches my blocking. So it's not that great.Edited by fxeconomisteb17_ESO on May 4, 2023 6:10PM"Is it true her wounds healed on their own ? Yes" No s***, at 75% health regen penalty!
I was a vampire like you, but then I took an idea to the head...0
