How many of you console players are still on last gen consoles?

Gray_howling_parrot

markulrich1966

xbox Series S (the "small" Series X version).
Before I had a one S with an external SSD, so the upgrade mainly had impact on better grafics (using performance mode). Load times were already fine on the old system using the SSD, they are better now, but the difference is not dramatic.

I have no been in cyro yet with the new system, so am curious for whitestreak mayhem to check, if there still is the issue of when you try to conquer a keep and it crashes in half of the cases on the old One S.

spartaxoxo

PS5 is soooo much faster. I can't go back even though I still have my PS4.

LunaFlora

PS5 seems to finally be available again at my local stores but getting the money for one is another thing

SickleCider

The jump to PS5 is really dramatic. There are still a lot of people for whom it is tricky to come by and prohibitively expensive, though.

DragonRacer

PS5 is not cheap, but my God the night and day improvement in loading everywhere is marked.

Cazador

Series S here since the Series X was impossible to find when I upgraded.

SkaiFaith

I have a Series X and even though I still have my Xbox One in another room, when I use ESO on that older one I launch it via Cloud Gaming since it performs way better with faster loading times and it doesn't require to download enormous updates.
I play ESO 99% of the time on next gen hardware, the last gen is used only when the downloaded game on my Series X is updating - that's where Cloud Gaming comes in useful.
I'd never again play ESO installed on a last gen console: unbearable.

spartaxoxo

SickleCider wrote: »

The jump to PS5 is really dramatic. There are still a lot of people for whom it is tricky to come by and prohibitively expensive, though.

I literally only got it because someone mentioned it was available at like 3am and I happened to be awake. By the time normal hours arrived and I was able to tell a family member, it was already gone.

HappyTheCamper

The difference is not hyperbolic. It’s craaaazy how much better it is on next gen.

isadoraisacat

I started on pc than switched to ps4 I played for like a hour than decided I’d rather sell some retro games to put money towards a better laptop to go back to pc. I can’t stand playing on a controller.

But I also like that pc has ad ons, and more flexility and adjustments if you so desire.

robwolf666

Had a Series X since March/April last year. Bloody nightmare to find one, but got lucky when MS had a limited stock window.

FluffWit

Funnily enough I finally got a ps5 this morning and am reinstalling right now.

@ZOS_Kevin Your article on how to install the ps5 upgrade is absolutely useless....

https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/60247

I ended up starting the ps4 install before a random youtuber showed me how to select the ps5 version.

disintegr8

Still on the PS4 and doubt an upgrade to PS5 will resolve lag and disconnects, especially in PVP, so not upgrading anytme soon.

spartaxoxo

FluffWit wrote: »

Funnily enough I finally got a ps5 this morning and am reinstalling right now.

@ZOS_Kevin Your article on how to install the ps5 upgrade is absolutely useless....

https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/60247

I ended up starting the ps4 install before a random youtuber showed me how to select the ps5 version.

I don't agree. I installed my ps5 copy by installing from the store in the manner described by the article.

On the PlayStation 5, navigate to the PS5 version on the PlayStation™Store by either using the overflow menu “(…)” on the ESO game hub or by opening the PlayStation Store and searching for “The Elder Scrolls Online: PS5 Upgrade”. You can then begin the download from the PS5 product page

Perhaps a visual aid would assist though. Something like this

boi_anachronism_

From my understanding it was about half and half at the beginning of this year.

Gray_howling_parrot

Yea the main reason I’m curious is because maybe not this year but almost undoubtedly in mid-late 2024 I see them dropping support for last gen consoles. I think it’ll definitely anger some people but the reason we can’t have a lot of nice stuff and new tech in the game is because of the capabilities of low end PCs and last gen consoles. So I was ultimately curious how many were still on those consoles.

markulrich1966

Jaustink wrote: »

Yea the main reason I’m curious is because maybe not this year but almost undoubtedly in mid-late 2024 I see them dropping support for last gen consoles. I think it’ll definitely anger some people but the reason we can’t have a lot of nice stuff and new tech in the game is because of the capabilities of low end PCs and last gen consoles. So I was ultimately curious how many were still on those consoles.

I doubt that. A Unreal-engine 4 game will look not as good as a Unreal-engine 5 game, even if both run on modern PC hardware.
The limiting factor is not so much the hardware, but the game engine. And the one of ESO is almost 10 years old.
You can add some minor cosmetics, as it happened with the next-gen updates (like more detailed textures and better shadows), but for updates that have massive impact on gameplay, you certainly would need a completely new game-engine.

I guess this is one of the reasons, why ZoS decided to create a completely new game (Starfield) instead of upgrading the old one (ESO). The cost of porting ESO would cost too much, as it would not attract enough new players, while a new game from scratch has the chance to attract new players, while they still get money from the old ESO players, as there is no real alternative for it yet.

Cazador

markulrich1966 wrote: »

Jaustink wrote: »

Yea the main reason I’m curious is because maybe not this year but almost undoubtedly in mid-late 2024 I see them dropping support for last gen consoles. I think it’ll definitely anger some people but the reason we can’t have a lot of nice stuff and new tech in the game is because of the capabilities of low end PCs and last gen consoles. So I was ultimately curious how many were still on those consoles.

I guess this is one of the reasons, why ZoS decided to create a completely new game (Starfield) instead of upgrading the old one (ESO). The cost of porting ESO would cost too much, as it would not attract enough new players, while a new game from scratch has the chance to attract new players, while they still get money from the old ESO players, as there is no real alternative for it yet.

Zos aren't the ones making Starfield, that's bethesda game studios. Zos are making a new game but no-one outside of their company really knows what it is.

DirtyDeeds765

PS5 gang for two and a half years now

@DirtyDeeds765

LunaFlora

Jaustink wrote: »

Yea the main reason I’m curious is because maybe not this year but almost undoubtedly in mid-late 2024 I see them dropping support for last gen consoles. I think it’ll definitely anger some people but the reason we can’t have a lot of nice stuff and new tech in the game is because of the capabilities of low end PCs and last gen consoles. So I was ultimately curious how many were still on those consoles.

they'll lose quite a lot of players and in the year of the game's tenth year anniversary? i very much doubt it

TybaltKaine

I doubt they would cut off support for the last gen consoles until they absolutely have to. For some people, upgrading just flat out isn't possible, for a variety of reasons, not limited to supply.

You also don't want to alienate the PC player base with lower end systems either. Telling people they have to upgrade their computer to play the game they paid for (and in some cases continue to pay for actively) would be very unwise. Especially because there is no real reason to do so as the engine is so old.

I'd wager they run the last gen serves until

A: They are forced to shut them down because the console developers themselves are killing servers
B: The population becomes so small that supporting those servers costs more than it generates

I doubt that happens for another 3 years or so at least given the state of the global economy.

Bekkael

I was slow to upgrade due to availability, but after signing up to buy a console via invitation on Amazon, I finally got my Series X last October. I love it.

Four_Fingers

Decided to hold of till the PS5 Pro is out later this year.

Mesite

markulrich1966 wrote: »

xbox Series S (the "small" Series X version).


I have no been in cyro yet with the new system, so am curious for whitestreak mayhem to check, if there still is the issue of when you try to conquer a keep and it crashes in half of the cases on the old One S.

Same here. My laptop can't fit ESO on the reasonably sized hard drive so I bought an xbox series S, which is cheaper than X, but next gen. No disk drive included but game pass is fine.

I went to Cyro and there was no one there (under level 50 campaign) . I managed to clear all of the town quests because Daggerfall Covenant owned the whole area.

Auberon1983

I play on PS5, used to play on PS4. My wife is the PC gamer (though she doesn't play ESO), and I prefer console.

I had a horrible time getting my hands on a PS5, and not for lack of trying. I finally was selected in an official Sony lottery, and was able to buy one directly there.

The difference really is "night and day". Now that supply seems to be getting better, I highly recommend (OBVIOUSLY only if finances allow) PS4 players upgrade.

Dragonlord573

Still on a base Xbox One cause I can't afford a Series X, the supply here is very small, and I refuse to buy a Series S because I still mainly play disc games.