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Racial Passive Debuffs

BardokRedSnow
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Skyrim Belongs To the Nords- 10 percent weakness to frost damage from all sources, including in duels.

Thats what I want to see, in every zone. For instance, Shadowfen, weakness to disease and poison damage to non argonians. Magic, in summerset, and daggerfall maybe less magicka regen, etc. Fire damage in Morrowind.

These lizards and elves looking too comfy in my Skyrim and they should be suffering. Would be good for immersion. And RP.

Pvp zones would obviously be pure and free of these for obvious gameplay reasons, but for lore reasons, Imperials try to assimilate all races, and the Imperial City itself is a hub for all of them as well. So no debuffs.
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  • TaSheen
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    I wouldn't like that. I don't find things like that add anything fun to gameplay.
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  • CompM4s
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    No.
  • TheForFeeF
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    Debuffs should only because use to balance an overpowered item, they shouldn't be used for lore reasons in an MMO.

    This would be fine for a single player game, but ESO isn't one of those.
  • Heartrage
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    No, zones shouldn’t be made worst for 9/10 of characters. Instead zos should be working on making zones individually more interesting so we want to come back to them with all our characters.
  • BardokRedSnow
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    Its not making them worse, per say. Its adding immersion. Should an altmer for instance truly feel right at home in the cold harsh lands of Skyrim?

    I know it probably seems like a joke to most lol and sure maaaybe this is a wee bit harsh but, it would add some uniqueness and give some more thought at that character menu when selecting a race, which is something I feel like this game misses. If not 9/10 races get a debuff in X land, they could do some more common sense debuffs applied to only certain races that make sense so its not literally every other race suffers at x. For instance, magic inclined races like bretons wouldnt have a debuff in summerset but Nords will.
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  • TaSheen
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    Not my kind of immersion, sorry. That would send me back to Oblivion and Skyrim (the single player versions) permanently. I play all races except argonians, nords, orcs and dunmer. And when I want immersion, my elves and redguards etc. put on clothing for cold lands.
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  • TybaltKaine
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    I don't think many people want a "Survival mode light" in ESO.
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  • The_Lex
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    This will not happen for the same reason why ZOS will not increase the difficulty level for overland content.
  • BardokRedSnow
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    The_Lex wrote: »
    This will not happen for the same reason why ZOS will not increase the difficulty level for overland content.

    Im curious what reason that is, because honestly overland is so boring I honestly didnt think people would mind something like this. Not like it'd actually make things hard, certainly not dark souls hard or anything. I bet most people wouldnt even notice.
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  • NotaDaedraWorshipper
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    These lizards and elves looking too comfy in my Skyrim and they should be suffering. Would be good for immersion. And RP.

    You underestimate the adaptation skills of the Saxhleel, beeko. Besides, the "harsh" lands of Skyrim doesn't even look that harsh. There's so much land that doesn't have snow or ice on it. Wrothgar looks harsher.
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  • BardokRedSnow
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    These lizards and elves looking too comfy in my Skyrim and they should be suffering. Would be good for immersion. And RP.

    You underestimate the adaptation skills of the Saxhleel, beeko. Besides, the "harsh" lands of Skyrim doesn't even look that harsh. There's so much land that doesn't have snow or ice on it. Wrothgar looks harsher.

    Wrothgar is technically skyrim :p or will be lol.

    At least part of it is.
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    Because its lore friendly :P
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  • Nord_Raseri
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    No reason for it. Differences already covered in racial resistances.
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  • TaSheen
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    I don't think many people want a "Survival mode light" in ESO.

    Yeah. I sure don't.
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  • Necrotech_Master
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    instead of debuffs affecting 90% of the players, why not buffs that affect the 1 race in their "home" zones? lol
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  • BardokRedSnow
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    instead of debuffs affecting 90% of the players, why not buffs that affect the 1 race in their "home" zones? lol

    Game's too easy as is imo lol, wanted to make something more debilitating.

    Why not both? ^^
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  • TaSheen
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    The game is NOT too easy for me. I'm perfectly happy with it the way it is.
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  • Necrotech_Master
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    instead of debuffs affecting 90% of the players, why not buffs that affect the 1 race in their "home" zones? lol

    Game's too easy as is imo lol, wanted to make something more debilitating.

    Why not both? ^^

    i certainly dont want constant debuffs for going to certain areas just because of my characters race, if you want immersion, i could see adding some kind of beneficial bonus, but i would not want debuffs

    if this was a single player ES game, i would mod out debuff garbage like that
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  • Vetixio
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    Altmer should have their weakness to magic like in other TES games but give them like 4k max Magicka so it's like a 'kiss-curse'.
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  • TybaltKaine
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    Vetixio wrote: »
    Altmer should have their weakness to magic like in other TES games but give them like 4k max Magicka so it's like a 'kiss-curse'.

    I do like the idea of bringing back the old debuffs from Oblivion and earlier. Those felt balanced perfectly. The idea that everything is good is a little boring, but again, I do get why they did it for an MMO that doesn't have an attribute system (even though it should).
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  • The_Lex
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    The_Lex wrote: »
    This will not happen for the same reason why ZOS will not increase the difficulty level for overland content.

    Im curious what reason that is, because honestly overland is so boring I honestly didnt think people would mind something like this. Not like it'd actually make things hard, certainly not dark souls hard or anything. I bet most people wouldnt even notice.

    If you search the forums, you’ll see an outcry against increasing the difficulty level every time this issue is raised. Casual players want to play for the story, not for challenge. Rich even said multiple times that they’re listening to the casual base when it comes to overland content.

    I don’t play much anymore, but when I did, I would have loved an increase in difficulty. As it is, you can sleep walk your way through the questing.
  • Suna_Ye_Sunnabe
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    This wouldn't be lore friendly at all. No thank you.
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  • Mesite
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    In previous games Altmers had massive benefits but they also used to have a massive disadvantage to offset them - I'd like to see that
    Edited by Mesite on April 29, 2023 5:34PM
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