Attn: ZoS devs RE: New item set concept

viphhase

I have just had a fantastic idea for a new set that could be introduced as they close this saga out with the zone dlc later in the year. A set that allows you to equip two mythic items. It would look something like this;

2pc - 129 WD/SD
3pc - 669 crit chance
4 pc - 129 WD/SD
5 pc - When equipped the wearer is able to also equip two mythic items at the same time

This would create an incredibly new and fantastic combination of sets and playstyles to be used. The possibilities are endless to be honest, while the initial concept may seem overpowered it isn't when you dive deeper into it, while you gain a second mythic, you also lose a full 5 pc bonus as well and mythics are reasonably comparable to a 5pc set bonus.

Another really good idea could be the introduction of a mythic weapon (I am aware of arena weapons but they are each locked to a weapon skill) these could be introduced as a an incredably powerful weapon that procced from a skill and instead gains value in some other way, perhaps by triggering a class ability, for example:

- When you activate a (direct damage / damage over time / area of effect / resource recovery) class ability, you gain 1000 WD/SD for 10 seconds and take an extra 10% damage while active

Something like that

Jaraal

Armor of The Hokey Pokey

2 – Adds 129 Health Recovery

3 – Adds 1206 Maximum Health

4 – Adds 129 Health Recovery

5 – While you are standing still, put your left foot in and gain 465 Weapon and Spell damage. Put your left foot out and gain gain 203 Health, Magicka, and Stamina Recovery. Turn yourself about and grant Major Heroism to yourself and 11 other party goers.


That's what it's all about!

Ishtarknows

In order for balance and allowing you to use 2 mythics the 1-4 piece bonuses would have to be a lot worse than you have suggested. Maybe 1 line of Max resource, one of recovery and a line of health, definitely not 2 of SD/WD.

AndreNoir

Nah. Make it 3 mystics so everyone can wear markyn, serpent and oakensoul at the same time
/sarcasm

festegios

Jaraal wrote: »

Armor of The Hokey Pokey

2 – Adds 129 Health Recovery

3 – Adds 1206 Maximum Health

4 – Adds 129 Health Recovery

5 – While you are standing still, put your left foot in and gain 465 Weapon and Spell damage. Put your left foot out and gain gain 203 Health, Magicka, and Stamina Recovery. Turn yourself about and grant Major Heroism to yourself and 11 other party goers.


That's what it's all about!

Love it

Galeriano

By "new and fantastic combinations" You mean completly broken builds?

Luede

the only thing that should happen is that ZOS removes a few hundred sets from the game

Blazyn

Jaraal wrote: »

Armor of The Hokey Pokey

2 – Adds 129 Health Recovery

3 – Adds 1206 Maximum Health

4 – Adds 129 Health Recovery

5 – While you are standing still, put your left foot in and gain 465 Weapon and Spell damage. Put your left foot out and gain gain 203 Health, Magicka, and Stamina Recovery. Turn yourself about and grant Major Heroism to yourself and 11 other party goers.


That's what it's all about!

I like the 5pc set bonus idea!

viphhase

Oh my such thoughtful discussion points from all people that have weighed in, thank you all so much!

Dragonnord

First broken Oakensoul easy-mode builds and now two mythics at once?

So slot Oakensoul and another mythic, both at the same time?

Wow!!!

HoId on, let me invite my 5-year old nephew to play this game.
 

Tommy_The_Gun

Automated Defense (crafted):

5 pc - When you take non-ability and non-passive, player sourced damage, you heal for the 100% damage done to you. This effect is reduced by 100% per group member you are grouped with.

Comment:
Basically, what it will do is it will be a proc set that will hard counter any other damge dealing proc set. And it won't work in a group, so that it won't be abused by Ball Groups or Small Scale tower trolls or in BGs.

Dr_Con

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

Automated Defense (crafted):

5 pc - When you take non-ability and non-passive, player sourced damage, you heal for the 100% damage done to you. This effect is reduced by 100% per group member you are grouped with.

Comment:
Basically, what it will do is it will be a proc set that will hard counter any other damge dealing proc set. And it won't work in a group, so that it won't be abused by Ball Groups or Small Scale tower trolls or in BGs.

Stanx

I appreciate what you're going for but the proposed set sounds like a really bad idea IMO. Not really that fussed about the mythic weapon idea but it would have to be more effective than a typical mythic as it would eat two slots and paired with the proposed set idea it just sounds like a recipe for broken builds.

Vulkunne

Jaraal wrote: »

Armor of The Hokey Pokey

2 – Adds 129 Health Recovery

3 – Adds 1206 Maximum Health

4 – Adds 129 Health Recovery

5 – While you are standing still, put your left foot in and gain 465 Weapon and Spell damage. Put your left foot out and gain gain 203 Health, Magicka, and Stamina Recovery. Turn yourself about and grant Major Heroism to yourself and 11 other party goers.


That's what it's all about!

New Meta Set

Kuvayr

viphhase wrote: »

2pc - 129 WD/SD
3pc - 669 crit chance
4 pc - 129 WD/SD
5 pc - When equipped the wearer is able to also equip two mythic items at the same time

In my opinion such set would be pretty good but way too powerfull. I'd suggest to make it 10pc set (so you wont be able to equip another 5pc set) with more of general stats:

2pc: add X health;
3pc: add X stamina;
4pc: add X magicka;
5pc: add X weapon and spell dmg;
6pc: add X crit;
7pc: add X pen;
8pc: add X armor;
9pc: add X stam and magic regen;
10pc: When equipped the wearer is able to also equip two mythic items at the same time;

This way neither pvp or pve players should be angry about this set being op, because you wouldn't be able to equip any other op/meta 5pc set.

viphhase wrote: »

- When you activate a (direct damage / damage over time / area of effect / resource recovery) class ability, you gain 1000 WD/SD for 10 seconds and take an extra 10% damage while active

Considering abilities like Corrosive Armor I don't think there is a place for such sets in ESO.

Dr_Con

Kuvayr wrote: »

viphhase wrote: »

2pc - 129 WD/SD
3pc - 669 crit chance
4 pc - 129 WD/SD
5 pc - When equipped the wearer is able to also equip two mythic items at the same time

In my opinion such set would be pretty good but way too powerfull. I'd suggest to make it 10pc set (so you wont be able to equip another 5pc set) with more of general stats:

2pc: add X health;
3pc: add X stamina;
4pc: add X magicka;
5pc: add X weapon and spell dmg;
6pc: add X crit;
7pc: add X pen;
8pc: add X armor;
9pc: add X stam and magic regen;
10pc: When equipped the wearer is able to also equip two mythic items at the same time;

This way neither pvp or pve players should be angry about this set being op, because you wouldn't be able to equip any other op/meta 5pc set.

viphhase wrote: »

- When you activate a (direct damage / damage over time / area of effect / resource recovery) class ability, you gain 1000 WD/SD for 10 seconds and take an extra 10% damage while active

Considering abilities like Corrosive Armor I don't think there is a place for such sets in ESO.

due to the fact that you can backbar sets you won't be able to realistically control how 2 mythics get put on a build. They currently don't have a mythic deactivation mech nor do they need one.

Ratzkifal

This set needs an additional restriction that the 5piece bonus is only active if it is active on both bars. You would introduce so many bugs to the game otherwise by allowing you to unequip that set or use barswap to have the effect become deactive. Twice-born star already has/had plenty issues like that. I don't think it's worth reintroducing the same problems just with mythics.
As for balance, that might be balanced, but keep in mind that this will restrict what future mythics are capable of, because now you will have to worry about how mythic items interact with each other.