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How do you pronounce it?

ACamaroGuy
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How do you say the word Arcanist?

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/arcanist
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How do you pronounce it? 225 votes

are cane ist
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Ark a nist
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Are ka nist
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  • isadoraisacat
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    are cane ist
    Ar-cane-ist the word for the arcane arts isn’t r-can

    It’s like when people say lore-can for lore-kahn (Lorkhan)

    Edit
    Nice the dictionary AI voice knows how to pronounce it correctly.
    Edited by isadoraisacat on April 20, 2023 10:52PM
  • vsrs_au
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    I'm not sure the linked page is the best guide, it concerns ceramics. In any case, the pronunciation would probably also vary by country: the USA pronunciation would no doubt be very different to the European, UK or Australian (for example).
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  • MrGarlic
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    Are ka nist
    More like Arka-Nissed for me.
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    Hidden by darkness, a shadow in the night,A sped arrow dissecting the gloom,Finding it's target, such delight.
  • isadoraisacat
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    MrGarlic wrote: »
    More like Arka-Nissed for me.

    Ar-cane-ist for me the word is arcane and you are the expert the ist of the arcane arts thus ar-cane-ist. It isn’t called Arkana
    Edited by isadoraisacat on April 20, 2023 10:42PM
  • Jaimeh
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    Are ka nist
    Or Arr ka nist (if you're a pirate :smiley:).
  • isadoraisacat
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    are cane ist
    vsrs_au wrote: »
    I'm not sure the linked page is the best guide, it concerns ceramics. In any case, the pronunciation would probably also vary by country: the USA pronunciation would no doubt be very different to the European, UK or Australian (for example).

    I’m American born and raised and I say “ar-cane-ist”
  • isadoraisacat
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    Jaimeh wrote: »
    Or Arr ka nist (if you're a pirate :smiley:).

    So redguard pronunciation?
  • TaSheen
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    Um. So.... satire; and satirist.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivcEBEeybfE

    Which even though she sounds British, is how most people I know in the US pronounce it as well. I'm sure there are more examples, but I'm starting dinner, so someone else can look if they have time.
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  • vsrs_au
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    Perhaps it's Argonian pronunciation: arcanissssssst! ;)
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  • Kiralyn2000
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    Ark a nist
    Hmmm. Or maybe the third choice. Hard to tell without speaking slowly, at which point I wonder if I'm doing it differently.
  • isadoraisacat
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    TaSheen wrote: »
    Um. So.... satire; and satirist.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivcEBEeybfE

    Which even though she sounds British, is how most people I know in the US pronounce it as well. I'm sure there are more examples, but I'm starting dinner, so someone else can look if they have time.

    I’d prob say “sa-tire-ist”
  • isadoraisacat
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    vsrs_au wrote: »
    Perhaps it's Argonian pronunciation: arcanissssssst! ;)

    Arcanhisssst would be more like it 🦎
  • TaSheen
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    Are ka nist
    Well, it does depend on one's language and cultural background.
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  • isadoraisacat
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    are cane ist
    TaSheen wrote: »
    Um. So.... satire; and satirist.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivcEBEeybfE

    Which even though she sounds British, is how most people I know in the US pronounce it as well. I'm sure there are more examples, but I'm starting dinner, so someone else can look if they have time.

    I say ar-cane-ist is that an “American” way or “British” way ?
  • Kiralyn2000
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    Ark a nist
    American north-east, but not New Yawk or Bahstan. :D
  • isadoraisacat
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    American north-east, but not New Yawk or Bahstan. :D
    I’m Italian American from the east coast and I say “ar-cane-ist”

    I’m not from either of those places but the place most gavone stereotypes come from on tv.
    Edited by isadoraisacat on April 20, 2023 11:21PM
  • TaSheen
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    Are ka nist
    I'm midwest in origin (70+ years ago) but have lived most of my life in the US west and southwest. I've never heard satirist prounounce with a long "i" in the middle.
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  • isadoraisacat
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    TaSheen wrote: »
    I'm midwest in origin (70+ years ago) but have lived most of my life in the US west and southwest. I've never heard satirist prounounce with a long "i" in the middle.

    I’d say “satire-ist” like the word sa-tire-ist just as it is. I’m from the east coast never been to the west coast ever. And barely been to the south I’m your typical stereotypical person of a certain area on tv that Italians are known for lol that I don’t think I can say cos I don’t think we can say where we live.
  • TaSheen
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    No, don't post your "real" location. People have cultural backgrounds which mean that they have linguistic idioms - and no one in this total melange of a country should ever say "my way is the only right way"!
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  • isadoraisacat
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    TaSheen wrote: »
    No, don't post your "real" location. People have cultural backgrounds which mean that they have linguistic idioms - and no one in this total melange of a country should ever say "my way is the only right way"!

    I don’t think there is a right or wrong way. In fact I find people here speak different I do. I speak more “proper” I’ve been told. like for instance my boss says “draw” for drawer and I say drawer yet we are born and raised in the same place.

    So I’m just curious what accent I have because I feel sometimes it doesn’t line up with people from my home stare at times and other times it very much does.
  • tsaescishoeshiner
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    Ar-cane-ist the word for the arcane arts isn’t r-can

    It’s like when people say lore-can for lore-kahn (Lorkhan)

    Edit
    Nice the dictionary AI voice knows how to pronounce it correctly.

    This doesn't always work in linguistics! It's like how we say pragMATic but we call someone a PRAGmatist.

    Someone who does linguistics can probably say more about whether this just has to do with nouns or -ist endings, but I think arcanist is just one of those words that has multiple natural pronunciations.
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  • isadoraisacat
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    are cane ist
    Ar-cane-ist the word for the arcane arts isn’t r-can

    It’s like when people say lore-can for lore-kahn (Lorkhan)

    Edit
    Nice the dictionary AI voice knows how to pronounce it correctly.

    This doesn't always work in linguistics! It's like how we say pragMATic but we call someone a PRAGmatist.

    Someone who does linguistics can probably say more about whether this just has to do with nouns or -ist endings, but I think arcanist is just one of those words that has multiple natural pronunciations.

    Oh I’d prob say PRAG-mat-ist we sort of just say it how it’s said here if that makes sense.

  • TaSheen
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    It makes sense because you grew up in your "idiomatic" linguistic culture of course!

    I didn't grow up in the culture where I was born. That was southern Missouri. My parents moved us to California when I was very young, and then I went to a private school run by a very lovely older woman from Sydney Australia. I still have some lingering "AU voice print" 70+ years later. She took me under her wing because even as a second grader, I could write, and so I became her protegé for the years I studied there.

    Then we moved to Las Vegas, where I spent the rest of my younger life, though eventually I married a man from "away", and we moved (at his insistance) to his home state (where I've been a complete fish out of water since 1994.... *sigh*)

    So my voice isn't "from anywhere particularly". My midwest relatives (what's left of them, not many) seem to not be able to understand much of what I say, always asking me to repeat. Even my sibs sometimes give me the "huh??" look. Fortunately, husband doesn't hear well at all, so I'm used to him not getting upset that I don't sound "right".

    I have to say that when it comes to the senses, I could quite well live without sound. Sight? Nope. If I go blind, I'll have to go dead. Seriously. I can play ESO without sound entirely (and I do except when I just really want to hear the music) but not being able to see to play a game, or read a book?

    Might as well be dead.....

    Um. That's probably a LOT more info (not to mention blather) than anyone wanted to read. Sorry. Blame it on a VERY nice pinot noir?
    Edited by TaSheen on April 21, 2023 12:41AM
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  • Elsonso
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    Ar Can Ist
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  • Vulkunne
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    Ark a nist
    Ark-a-thingy
    Edited by Vulkunne on April 21, 2023 1:20AM
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  • TaSheen
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    Vulkunne wrote: »
    Ark-a-thingy

    LOL!
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  • Arkanos
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    Ark a nist
    Here's my take -- the "e" at the end of arcane is what twists it into that pronunciation. In "arcanist" the "e" isn't there, so it's pronounced ARK-a-nist... Whoops, looks like Dictionary.com says I lose, Must be ego!
    Edited by Arkanos on April 21, 2023 2:16AM
  • isadoraisacat
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    The word is arcane tho like r-cane so to me it’s just ar-cane-ist I don’t even think about the e just how the original word sounds
  • phaneub17_ESO
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  • Arkanos
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    Ark a nist
    The word is arcane tho like r-cane so to me it’s just ar-cane-ist I don’t even think about the e just how the original word sounds

    Yeah, you're right. At least that's how Dictionary.com pronounces it.
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