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How do you pronounce it?
ACamaroGuy
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How do you pronounce it? 225 votes
are cane ist
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isadoraisacat✭✭✭✭✭are cane istAr-cane-ist the word for the arcane arts isn’t r-can
It’s like when people say lore-can for lore-kahn (Lorkhan)
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Nice the dictionary AI voice knows how to pronounce it correctly.Edited by isadoraisacat on April 20, 2023 10:52PM9 -
vsrs_au✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I'm not sure the linked page is the best guide, it concerns ceramics. In any case, the pronunciation would probably also vary by country: the USA pronunciation would no doubt be very different to the European, UK or Australian (for example).PC(Steam) / EU / play from Melbourne, Australia / avg ping 3904 -
MrGarlic✭✭✭✭✭
✭Are ka nistMore like Arka-Nissed for me.'Sharp Arrows'Mr.GarlicHidden by darkness, a shadow in the night,A sped arrow dissecting the gloom,Finding it's target, such delight.4 -
isadoraisacat✭✭✭✭✭are cane istI'm not sure the linked page is the best guide, it concerns ceramics. In any case, the pronunciation would probably also vary by country: the USA pronunciation would no doubt be very different to the European, UK or Australian (for example).
I’m American born and raised and I say “ar-cane-ist”1 -
TaSheen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Are ka nistUm. So.... satire; and satirist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivcEBEeybfE
Which even though she sounds British, is how most people I know in the US pronounce it as well. I'm sure there are more examples, but I'm starting dinner, so someone else can look if they have time.______________________________________________________
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vsrs_au✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Perhaps it's Argonian pronunciation: arcanissssssst!
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Kiralyn2000✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Ark a nistHmmm. Or maybe the third choice. Hard to tell without speaking slowly, at which point I wonder if I'm doing it differently.0 -
isadoraisacat✭✭✭✭✭are cane istUm. So.... satire; and satirist.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivcEBEeybfE
Which even though she sounds British, is how most people I know in the US pronounce it as well. I'm sure there are more examples, but I'm starting dinner, so someone else can look if they have time.
I’d prob say “sa-tire-ist”1 -
TaSheen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Are ka nistWell, it does depend on one's language and cultural background.______________________________________________________
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isadoraisacat✭✭✭✭✭are cane istUm. So.... satire; and satirist.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivcEBEeybfE
Which even though she sounds British, is how most people I know in the US pronounce it as well. I'm sure there are more examples, but I'm starting dinner, so someone else can look if they have time.
I say ar-cane-ist is that an “American” way or “British” way ?0 -
isadoraisacat✭✭✭✭✭are cane ist
I’m Italian American from the east coast and I say “ar-cane-ist”Kiralyn2000 wrote: »American north-east, but not New Yawk or Bahstan.
I’m not from either of those places but the place most gavone stereotypes come from on tv.Edited by isadoraisacat on April 20, 2023 11:21PM1 -
TaSheen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Are ka nistI'm midwest in origin (70+ years ago) but have lived most of my life in the US west and southwest. I've never heard satirist prounounce with a long "i" in the middle.______________________________________________________
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isadoraisacat✭✭✭✭✭are cane istI'm midwest in origin (70+ years ago) but have lived most of my life in the US west and southwest. I've never heard satirist prounounce with a long "i" in the middle.
I’d say “satire-ist” like the word sa-tire-ist just as it is. I’m from the east coast never been to the west coast ever. And barely been to the south I’m your typical stereotypical person of a certain area on tv that Italians are known for lol that I don’t think I can say cos I don’t think we can say where we live.0 -
TaSheen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Are ka nistNo, don't post your "real" location. People have cultural backgrounds which mean that they have linguistic idioms - and no one in this total melange of a country should ever say "my way is the only right way"!______________________________________________________
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isadoraisacat✭✭✭✭✭are cane istNo, don't post your "real" location. People have cultural backgrounds which mean that they have linguistic idioms - and no one in this total melange of a country should ever say "my way is the only right way"!
I don’t think there is a right or wrong way. In fact I find people here speak different I do. I speak more “proper” I’ve been told. like for instance my boss says “draw” for drawer and I say drawer yet we are born and raised in the same place.
So I’m just curious what accent I have because I feel sometimes it doesn’t line up with people from my home stare at times and other times it very much does.1 -
tsaescishoeshiner✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭isadoraisacat wrote: »Ar-cane-ist the word for the arcane arts isn’t r-can
It’s like when people say lore-can for lore-kahn (Lorkhan)
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Nice the dictionary AI voice knows how to pronounce it correctly.
This doesn't always work in linguistics! It's like how we say pragMATic but we call someone a PRAGmatist.
Someone who does linguistics can probably say more about whether this just has to do with nouns or -ist endings, but I think arcanist is just one of those words that has multiple natural pronunciations.PC-NA
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isadoraisacat✭✭✭✭✭are cane isttsaescishoeshiner wrote: »isadoraisacat wrote: »Ar-cane-ist the word for the arcane arts isn’t r-can
It’s like when people say lore-can for lore-kahn (Lorkhan)
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Nice the dictionary AI voice knows how to pronounce it correctly.
This doesn't always work in linguistics! It's like how we say pragMATic but we call someone a PRAGmatist.
Someone who does linguistics can probably say more about whether this just has to do with nouns or -ist endings, but I think arcanist is just one of those words that has multiple natural pronunciations.
Oh I’d prob say PRAG-mat-ist we sort of just say it how it’s said here if that makes sense.
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TaSheen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Are ka nistIt makes sense because you grew up in your "idiomatic" linguistic culture of course!
I didn't grow up in the culture where I was born. That was southern Missouri. My parents moved us to California when I was very young, and then I went to a private school run by a very lovely older woman from Sydney Australia. I still have some lingering "AU voice print" 70+ years later. She took me under her wing because even as a second grader, I could write, and so I became her protegé for the years I studied there.
Then we moved to Las Vegas, where I spent the rest of my younger life, though eventually I married a man from "away", and we moved (at his insistance) to his home state (where I've been a complete fish out of water since 1994.... *sigh*)
So my voice isn't "from anywhere particularly". My midwest relatives (what's left of them, not many) seem to not be able to understand much of what I say, always asking me to repeat. Even my sibs sometimes give me the "huh??" look. Fortunately, husband doesn't hear well at all, so I'm used to him not getting upset that I don't sound "right".
I have to say that when it comes to the senses, I could quite well live without sound. Sight? Nope. If I go blind, I'll have to go dead. Seriously. I can play ESO without sound entirely (and I do except when I just really want to hear the music) but not being able to see to play a game, or read a book?
Might as well be dead.....
Um. That's probably a LOT more info (not to mention blather) than anyone wanted to read. Sorry. Blame it on a VERY nice pinot noir?Edited by TaSheen on April 21, 2023 12:41AM______________________________________________________
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Vulkunne✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ark a nistArk-a-thingyEdited by Vulkunne on April 21, 2023 1:20AMToday Victory is mine. Long Live the Empire.2 -
Arkanos✭✭Ark a nistHere's my take -- the "e" at the end of arcane is what twists it into that pronunciation. In "arcanist" the "e" isn't there, so it's pronounced ARK-a-nist... Whoops, looks like Dictionary.com says I lose, Must be ego!Edited by Arkanos on April 21, 2023 2:16AM1
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isadoraisacat✭✭✭✭✭are cane istThe word is arcane tho like r-cane so to me it’s just ar-cane-ist I don’t even think about the e just how the original word sounds2
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Arkanos✭✭Ark a nistisadoraisacat wrote: »The word is arcane tho like r-cane so to me it’s just ar-cane-ist I don’t even think about the e just how the original word sounds
Yeah, you're right. At least that's how Dictionary.com pronounces it.1
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