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Having trouble digging up yellow leads

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I’m trying to get oakensoul I’ve never done the scrying mini game until this week. I’m very confused what steps do I need or do to dig up this yellow lead it expires in 2 days I’m trying to get it now. Can anyone explain what I need to do they don’t really explain too well and every video I looked at doesn’t show how to do the yellow leads

Thanks sorry if this is in the wrong spot
  • ixthUA
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    Probe if selected square has the item. Red color = item is far from the square, yellow = its close, green = its in this square.
    Once you found green square, start digging it with W tool 2 times, then with A 1 time, then with W again until you see the bottom.
    Repeat W W A W on other item squares until you dig the item out completely.
  • isadoraisacat
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    Yeah I am able to do the purple leads. But yellow I run out of time no matter what I do. Is this really something you need to do with all skills
    Maxed out ? Because it says level
    10 for more time. I really just don’t think I can do it with this amount of time. It was a really female dog to level to 7 and than get the leads. The scrying I accepted I just gotta do to multiple places and run around because I can’t do the high level ones. But the digging is just impossible to do if I had a little more time I think I could
    Maybe get it.
  • ixthUA
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    I recorded a video (its slowly processing to 4k):
    https://youtu.be/dDqvD0m4fJs
    If you are not a max level antiquarian, try doing easier leads. The one on your photo is a high difficulty lead.
  • Aislinna
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    Be aware that the mythic gear leads are the following shape when you dig them up, so if you found one green square, poke around for the following shape:
    ku0yxktcx19h.jpg
    I try to find the catty-corner ones, as the 2 middle ones are a given if you find the outter ones.
    Edited by Aislinna on March 31, 2023 5:15AM
  • isadoraisacat
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    ixthUA wrote: »
    I recorded a video (its slowly processing to 4k):
    https://youtu.be/dDqvD0m4fJs
    If you are not a max level antiquarian, try doing easier leads. The one on your photo is a high difficulty lead.


    I’m trying to do it for oakensoul I don’t need easier leads I just need to do the required stuff to get this item but one of the leads expires in 2 days so trying to get it now.
  • isadoraisacat
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    Aislinna wrote: »
    Be aware that the mythic gear leads are the following shape when you dig them up, so if you found one green square, poke around for the following shape:
    ku0yxktcx19h.jpg
    I try to find the catty-corner ones, as the 2 middle ones are a given if you find the outter ones.

    Yeah I tried that the prob is I always run out of time right at the end on the last piece of the chest thing that gets dug up.
  • Aislinna
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    Aislinna wrote: »
    Be aware that the mythic gear leads are the following shape when you dig them up, so if you found one green square, poke around for the following shape:
    ku0yxktcx19h.jpg
    I try to find the catty-corner ones, as the 2 middle ones are a given if you find the outter ones.

    Yeah I tried that the prob is I always run out of time right at the end on the last piece of the chest thing that gets dug up.

    I found mythic leads extremely hard to do before i was fully leveled, but not impossible, just really frustrating. Good luck.
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    Aislinna wrote: »
    Be aware that the mythic gear leads are the following shape when you dig them up, so if you found one green square, poke around for the following shape:
    ku0yxktcx19h.jpg
    I try to find the catty-corner ones, as the 2 middle ones are a given if you find the outter ones.

    Yeah I tried that the prob is I always run out of time right at the end on the last piece of the chest thing that gets dug up.
    Also remember that the item is never under an exploding block. In the top screenshot I would first probe above and to the left.
    Then below to the left and below.
    Then digging I use the shovel mostly, now it only removes the top layer so remove the two top layers above and below two blocks to the left, then use shovel on block to the left of the green. Use the brush to level on the right side of the green node in case you need to dig there.
    Also level up its get much easier then you level up your shovel so it get the option to use brush 4 time and then remove two layers and an chance for free shovel use.
    One tricks for power leveling scrying is to pick flowers in the hollow city in coldharbor. It has an high chance of dropping an gold lead for an void abnormality furniture. Dig this up and repeat.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • vsrs_au
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    I hate to sound like a cliche, but: it will get easier with practice. I also had trouble with master and ultimate difficulty excavations when I first started doing them, but I find them a lot easier now.
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  • isadoraisacat
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    Aislinna wrote: »
    Aislinna wrote: »
    Be aware that the mythic gear leads are the following shape when you dig them up, so if you found one green square, poke around for the following shape:
    ku0yxktcx19h.jpg
    I try to find the catty-corner ones, as the 2 middle ones are a given if you find the outter ones.

    Yeah I tried that the prob is I always run out of time right at the end on the last piece of the chest thing that gets dug up.

    I found mythic leads extremely hard to do before i was fully leveled, but not impossible, just really frustrating. Good luck.

    Yeah it seems Impossible. It also sucks one lead is running out soon and i can’t get it. I hate that u need to grind skill points to make it easier it’s a waste if points on something I will
    Never do again I’m literally doing this for one item and that’s it. I actually HATE doing this so much.
  • isadoraisacat
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    vsrs_au wrote: »
    I hate to sound like a cliche, but: it will get easier with practice. I also had trouble with master and ultimate difficulty excavations when I first started doing them, but I find them a lot easier now.

    I’ve done it and failed at least 50 times now I’m starting to go insane with the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. At this point I’m ready to just give up on this mythic.
  • isadoraisacat
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    Aislinna wrote: »
    Be aware that the mythic gear leads are the following shape when you dig them up, so if you found one green square, poke around for the following shape:
    ku0yxktcx19h.jpg
    I try to find the catty-corner ones, as the 2 middle ones are a given if you find the outter ones.

    Yeah I tried that the prob is I always run out of time right at the end on the last piece of the chest thing that gets dug up.

    Hey thank you so much for the pattern I got it finally following that !!! You are a gift from Mara ♥️
  • isadoraisacat
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    Thank you everyone I got iq1yg9qt2zin.jpeg
    oakensoul I love this community thanks for all the tips !!!
  • Aislinna
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    Aislinna wrote: »
    Be aware that the mythic gear leads are the following shape when you dig them up, so if you found one green square, poke around for the following shape:
    ku0yxktcx19h.jpg
    I try to find the catty-corner ones, as the 2 middle ones are a given if you find the outter ones.

    Yeah I tried that the prob is I always run out of time right at the end on the last piece of the chest thing that gets dug up.

    Hey thank you so much for the pattern I got it finally following that !!! You are a gift from Mara ♥️

    CONGRATS!!
  • isadoraisacat
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    Aislinna wrote: »
    Aislinna wrote: »
    Be aware that the mythic gear leads are the following shape when you dig them up, so if you found one green square, poke around for the following shape:
    ku0yxktcx19h.jpg
    I try to find the catty-corner ones, as the 2 middle ones are a given if you find the outter ones.

    Yeah I tried that the prob is I always run out of time right at the end on the last piece of the chest thing that gets dug up.

    Hey thank you so much for the pattern I got it finally following that !!! You are a gift from Mara ♥️

    CONGRATS!!

    Thank you !!!
  • AcadianPaladin
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    Fabulous! Glad you beat that two day expiration and hope you enjoy Oakensoul. I love how it lets my character focus on fighting and what her foe is doing rather than micromanaging a bunch of buffs.

    I'd consider leveling up excavation to 10 and grabbing all the skill perks to avoid problems in the future. When leveling scry/excavation, I go to Artaeum and just do green blue repeat for about six cycles each day and make that a part of my character's day for as long as it takes. Even though the greens and blues are less XP, you can do them very quickly in Artaeum.
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  • isadoraisacat
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    Fabulous! Glad you beat that two day expiration and hope you enjoy Oakensoul. I love how it lets my character focus on fighting and what her foe is doing rather than micromanaging a bunch of buffs.

    I'd consider leveling up excavation to 10 and grabbing all the skill perks to avoid problems in the future. When leveling scry/excavation, I go to Artaeum and just do green blue repeat for about six cycles each day and make that a part of my character's day for as long as it takes. Even though the greens and blues are less XP, you can do them very quickly in Artaeum.

    Yeah it’s great for overland that’s what I wanted it for for farming and playing in a more relaxed way.
    I’m not sure if I will use it in group play but for solo overland this item is awesome.
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    Fabulous! Glad you beat that two day expiration and hope you enjoy Oakensoul. I love how it lets my character focus on fighting and what her foe is doing rather than micromanaging a bunch of buffs.

    I'd consider leveling up excavation to 10 and grabbing all the skill perks to avoid problems in the future. When leveling scry/excavation, I go to Artaeum and just do green blue repeat for about six cycles each day and make that a part of my character's day for as long as it takes. Even though the greens and blues are less XP, you can do them very quickly in Artaeum.
    Do the blue / green in Artaeum until you can do purple, then try to get some purples.
    Then you are able to do gold pick flowers in hollow city for the gold void abnormality, its the fastest way to get from level 7 to 10. Has leveled over 10 alts to 8 as I want the treasure chest passive.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • isadoraisacat
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    zaria wrote: »
    Fabulous! Glad you beat that two day expiration and hope you enjoy Oakensoul. I love how it lets my character focus on fighting and what her foe is doing rather than micromanaging a bunch of buffs.

    I'd consider leveling up excavation to 10 and grabbing all the skill perks to avoid problems in the future. When leveling scry/excavation, I go to Artaeum and just do green blue repeat for about six cycles each day and make that a part of my character's day for as long as it takes. Even though the greens and blues are less XP, you can do them very quickly in Artaeum.
    Do the blue / green in Artaeum until you can do purple, then try to get some purples.
    Then you are able to do gold pick flowers in hollow city for the gold void abnormality, its the fastest way to get from level 7 to 10. Has leveled over 10 alts to 8 as I want the treasure chest passive.

    Thanks but I already did that and obtained oakensoul
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    zaria wrote: »
    Fabulous! Glad you beat that two day expiration and hope you enjoy Oakensoul. I love how it lets my character focus on fighting and what her foe is doing rather than micromanaging a bunch of buffs.

    I'd consider leveling up excavation to 10 and grabbing all the skill perks to avoid problems in the future. When leveling scry/excavation, I go to Artaeum and just do green blue repeat for about six cycles each day and make that a part of my character's day for as long as it takes. Even though the greens and blues are less XP, you can do them very quickly in Artaeum.
    Do the blue / green in Artaeum until you can do purple, then try to get some purples.
    Then you are able to do gold pick flowers in hollow city for the gold void abnormality, its the fastest way to get from level 7 to 10. Has leveled over 10 alts to 8 as I want the treasure chest passive.

    Thanks but I already did that and obtained oakensoul
    If you are level 8 or 9 in excavation you should have an dividing line on the shovel meter, this is why I assumed you was level 7 or 8, maxing the skills makes things easier.
    I also found it worthwhile to level alts for just the chest passive.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • isadoraisacat
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    zaria wrote: »
    zaria wrote: »
    Fabulous! Glad you beat that two day expiration and hope you enjoy Oakensoul. I love how it lets my character focus on fighting and what her foe is doing rather than micromanaging a bunch of buffs.

    I'd consider leveling up excavation to 10 and grabbing all the skill perks to avoid problems in the future. When leveling scry/excavation, I go to Artaeum and just do green blue repeat for about six cycles each day and make that a part of my character's day for as long as it takes. Even though the greens and blues are less XP, you can do them very quickly in Artaeum.
    Do the blue / green in Artaeum until you can do purple, then try to get some purples.
    Then you are able to do gold pick flowers in hollow city for the gold void abnormality, its the fastest way to get from level 7 to 10. Has leveled over 10 alts to 8 as I want the treasure chest passive.

    Thanks but I already did that and obtained oakensoul
    If you are level 8 or 9 in excavation you should have an dividing line on the shovel meter, this is why I assumed you was level 7 or 8, maxing the skills makes things easier.
    I also found it worthwhile to level alts for just the chest passive.

    I am level 7. I just wanted to try out oakensoul. Which i was able to obtain. I’m not Ina rush to level
    It any higher at least for now
  • jaws343
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    It is definitely difficult to explain the best strategy.

    Ideally, for the gold ones, you want to do the following:
    - Use the discover function in the middle on the first open slot you can, then go left, up, right, down, stopping the rotation of discovering once you hit a yellow. Basically quadrant it off. Then you want to zero in between the yellow squares after finding two until a green one or until it is close enough.
    - Once you have an idea of where the item is, you want to "flatten" the area the size of a large shovel around the green spot using "W", flatten until your charge bar is full. Once full, and you have a single layer at the same level, use the heavy shovel to clear the large area.
    - After using the fully charged large shovel, begin flattening an area adjacent to the initial area using the smaller tool. Until you have a full charge again.
    - With the full charge, use the large shovel to remove two more layers.
    - If you only have one layer left before the bottom, just use the smaller tool to clear it out.
    - Repeat until the area you first flattened is clear.
    - If only part of the item is there, then start flattening the area that contains the rest, and repeat the steps above.

  • vsrs_au
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    I just narrow down the possibilities using the intersections of the squares indicated by the red, orange and yellow markers. A quick internet search will show what each colour means. This approach can occasionally go wrong, because it may detect the bonus item(s) before the main item, but in general it works well enough.
    PC(Steam) / EU / play from Melbourne, Australia / avg ping 390
  • isadoraisacat
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    vsrs_au wrote: »
    I just narrow down the possibilities using the intersections of the squares indicated by the red, orange and yellow markers. A quick internet search will show what each colour means. This approach can occasionally go wrong, because it may detect the bonus item(s) before the main item, but in general it works well enough.

    Thanks I already did it but another comment showed it’s basically a puzzle that makes a shape once I sort of followed the pattern that’s how I was able to get it
  • jle30303
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    I am reliably capable of diging up golden leads, with only 2 points spent in Excavation:

    1 in Trowel
    1 in Heavy Shovel.

    I assume that since digging them up is your problem, you are not having a problem scrying for them.

    For a golden lead, every square has a depth of between 5 and 8.

    How to start: Dig twice in one of the 5-squares to reduce it to depth 3, then R (Augury). Check the colour. Work out how close you are to it. Repeat with another 5-square that is about the right distance away - if there are no convenient ones, try a 6-square that you will have to dig three times (unless you have put an extra point in Augury). Repeat until you hit at least one green square. Then, immediately, TROWEL it - remove the remaining 3 layers from the 1 square. Determine which square of the antiquity it is - whether it is a corner, an edge or a central square.

    Now. You know the shape of the antiquity.

    - If you have a corner square, you now know where the entire antiquity is, and that all BUT ONE (corner square) of the remaining covered squares can be fitted into a 3x3 block. Level this block off as best you can with normal digging (remove the tops off the 8-depth squares, possibly also brush off the 7-depth squares unless they form a contiguous block), then HEAVY SHOVEL it. From now on, it's "dig, dig, shovel", using the "dig" to dig in the remaining corner square while there is still earth on it, and the "shovel" to shift your 3x3 block.

    - If you have an edge square, again you know its shape. Your 3x3 block that you plan to Heavy Shovel, must centre on one of the covered squares next to it (either of the "centre" squares, OR the other "edge" square - decide which by trying to avoid any Fissures) - and will shift only 8 blocks of earth, because the 9th is the square already uncovered. It will also not include 2 corners. Once again, flatten it as best you can with normal digging so as to Heavy Shovel it, and it's dig-dig-shovel again, only you have *two* corner squares to dig out because they're not covered by the shovel.

    - If you uncover a centre square, you're in a harder position. You will need to dig up one more square - adjacent vertically or horizontally - to determine the antiquity's layout: use a mix of normal digging and Trowel to do this. You will be wanting to centre your Heavy Shovel 3x3 zone on the antiquity's *other* central square - but you may have 2 wasted squares here (if the second square you uncover is an edge), OR you may have only 1 (if the second square you uncover is a corner). Again, the "dig dig shovel" pattern (as above), digging on the corner squares that aren't in the shovelled area.
    Edited by jle30303 on April 8, 2023 11:03PM
  • isadoraisacat
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    jle30303 wrote: »
    I am reliably capable of diging up golden leads, with only 2 points spent in Excavation:

    1 in Trowel
    1 in Heavy Shovel.

    I assume that since digging them up is your problem, you are not having a problem scrying for them.

    For a golden lead, every square has a depth of between 5 and 8.

    How to start: Dig twice in one of the 5-squares to reduce it to depth 3, then R (Augury). Check the colour. Work out how close you are to it. Repeat with another 5-square that is about the right distance away - if there are no convenient ones, try a 6-square that you will have to dig three times (unless you have put an extra point in Augury). Repeat until you hit at least one green square. Then, immediately, TROWEL it - remove the remaining 3 layers from the 1 square. Determine which square of the antiquity it is - whether it is a corner, an edge or a central square.

    Now. You know the shape of the antiquity.

    - If you have a corner square, you now know where the entire antiquity is, and that all BUT ONE (corner square) of the remaining covered squares can be fitted into a 3x3 block. Level this block off as best you can with normal digging (remove the tops off the 8-depth squares, possibly also brush off the 7-depth squares unless they form a contiguous block), then HEAVY SHOVEL it. From now on, it's "dig, dig, shovel", using the "dig" to dig in the remaining corner square while there is still earth on it, and the "shovel" to shift your 3x3 block.

    - If you have an edge square, again you know its shape. Your 3x3 block that you plan to Heavy Shovel, must centre on one of the covered squares next to it (either of the "centre" squares, OR the other "edge" square - decide which by trying to avoid any Fissures) - and will shift only 8 blocks of earth, because the 9th is the square already uncovered. It will also not include 2 corners. Once again, flatten it as best you can with normal digging so as to Heavy Shovel it, and it's dig-dig-shovel again, only you have *two* corner squares to dig out because they're not covered by the shovel.

    - If you uncover a centre square, you're in a harder position. You will need to dig up one more square - adjacent vertically or horizontally - to determine the antiquity's layout: use a mix of normal digging and Trowel to do this. You will be wanting to centre your Heavy Shovel 3x3 zone on the antiquity's *other* central square - but you may have 2 wasted squares here (if the second square you uncover is an edge), OR you may have only 1 (if the second square you uncover is a corner). Again, the "dig dig shovel" pattern (as above), digging on the corner squares that aren't in the shovelled area.

    Thank you I always already able to finally get it done but I appreciate your comment
  • SeaGtGruff
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    I always try to use the Hand Brush exactly twice, just enough to charge up the Heavy Shovel, then I use the Heavy Shovel to try to dig out a 3x3 area, and repeat that sequence as many times as needed to get to the bottom of that 3x3 area.

    With the diagonally-placed antiquities, I like to dig out two 3x3 areas which are side-by-side but slightly cockeyed, as follows:
    +---+
    |  *|+---+
    | **||*  |
    |  *||** |
    +---+|*  |
         +---+
    

    That only happens if I got lucky finding where the corners are, but it's the most efficient way to dig out the antiquity and hopefully have a bit more time to look for bonus loot.
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  • isadoraisacat
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    SeaGtGruff wrote: »
    I always try to use the Hand Brush exactly twice, just enough to charge up the Heavy Shovel, then I use the Heavy Shovel to try to dig out a 3x3 area, and repeat that sequence as many times as needed to get to the bottom of that 3x3 area.

    With the diagonally-placed antiquities, I like to dig out two 3x3 areas which are side-by-side but slightly cockeyed, as follows:
    +---+
    |  *|+---+
    | **||*  |
    |  *||** |
    +---+|*  |
         +---+
    

    That only happens if I got lucky finding where the corners are, but it's the most efficient way to dig out the antiquity and hopefully have a bit more time to look for bonus loot.

    Yeah someone pointed out it’s a pattern on this thread and I followed that and that’s how I finally was able to get it.
  • Zodiarkslayer
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    the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results...

    Someone played Far Cry 3, right? 😉
    Michael Mando made video game history with that Monologue.
    read, think and write.In that order.
  • isadoraisacat
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    ...
    the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results...

    Someone played Far Cry 3, right? 😉
    Michael Mando made video game history with that Monologue.

    No never played that game ? Is that a shooter ?
    Not really my type of game. Not sure who originally said the quote but I didn’t hear it from that.
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