Chatgpt necromancer build

kirk_lewis_ESO

i asked chatgpt to make me a build and this is what it gave me: Sure, here's a sample build for a Necromancer in Elder Scrolls Online:

Race: Breton

Attributes: 64 Magicka, 0 Health, 0 Stamina

Mundus Stone: The Apprentice (increases your spell damage)

Gear:

5x Law of Julianos (crafted set that increases spell critical and spell damage)
5x Necropotence (obtained from the Rivenspire zone or purchased from guild traders, increases maximum magicka and spell damage)
2x Zaan's (obtained from the Scalecaller Peak dungeon, provides a bonus to your spell damage)
Note: You can also swap out Necropotence for another set like Mother's Sorrow or False God's Devotion, depending on your preferences and available gear.

Skills:

Bar 1 (Front bar):

Blastbones (Grave Lord skill line)
Unstable Wall of Elements (Destruction Staff skill line)
Mystic Siphon (Bone Tyrant skill line)
Stalking Blastbones (Grave Lord skill line)
Inner Light (Mages Guild skill line)
Ultimate: Glacial Colossus (Undaunted skill line)
Bar 2 (Back bar):

Spirit Guardian (Grave Lord skill line)
Skeletal Mage (Grave Lord skill line)
Healing Ward (Restoration Staff skill line)
Bitter Harvest (Bone Tyrant skill line)
Inner Light (Mages Guild skill line)
Ultimate: Reanimate (Grave Lord skill line)
Note: This is just one example of a skill setup. You can modify it based on your preferred playstyle and the content you plan to do.

Champion Points:

Blue: Elemental Expert (23), Elfborn (44), Spell Erosion (39), Thaumaturge (66)
Green: Arcanist (75), Magician (75), Tenacity (56)
Red: Hardy (37), Ironclad (56), Resistant (28), Thick Skinned (44), Elemental Defender (37)
This build focuses on maximizing your spell damage and magicka, while also providing some survivability through the Bone Tyrant skill line and Healing Ward. Blastbones, Skeletal Mage, and Spirit Guardian provide excellent damage output, while Bitter Harvest and Mystic Siphon can help you sustain your resources. Glacial Colossus and Reanimate are both powerful ultimates that can turn the tide of a battle.




add potions
Certainly, here are some potions you could use with this build:

Potion 1 (Magicka sustain):

Columbine
Corn Flower
Lady's Smock
This potion will restore a significant amount of magicka and also give you a boost to magicka recovery for a short period of time.

Potion 2 (Spell Damage boost):

Columbine
Water Hyacinth
Butterfly Wing
This potion will give you a major boost to your spell damage for a short period of time, which can help you burst down enemies faster.

Potion 3 (Survivability boost):

Columbine
Mountain Flower
Namira's Rot
This potion will restore some health and also give you a boost to your resistance to all types of damage for a short period of time.

You can also use different ingredients to create potions that fit your specific needs and playstyle. Just make sure to experiment and find the potions that work best for you.

add passives
Sure, here are some of the key passives that you should consider using with this build:

Class Passives:

Death Gleaning (Grave Lord): Increases your healing received and restores magicka when you kill an enemy.
Intensity (Grave Lord): Increases the damage of your blastbones, skeletal mage, and colossus abilities.
Dismember (Bone Tyrant): Increases your healing received and reduces the cost of your bone tyrant abilities.
Corpse Consumption (Bone Tyrant): Restores magicka and stamina when you use a corpse ability.
Expunge (Living Death): Increases the duration of your living death abilities and provides a damage shield when you use one.
Armor Passives:

Light Armor Focus (Light Armor): Increases your magicka recovery and reduces the cost of your magicka abilities.
Evocation (Light Armor): Reduces the cost of your ultimate abilities.
Undaunted Command (Undaunted): Increases your maximum magicka and stamina.
Unassailable (Heavy Armor): Provides damage mitigation when you are hit with a critical strike.
Weapon Passives:

Tri Focus (Destruction Staff): Increases your heavy attack damage and restores magicka when you fully charge a heavy attack.
Restoration Expert (Restoration Staff): Increases your healing done and reduces the cost of your restoration abilities.
Battle Roar (One-Handed and Shield): Restores magicka and stamina when you activate an ultimate ability.
Slaughter (Two-Handed): Increases the damage of your two-handed abilities.
Guild Passives:

Mage's Guild: Unlocks the mage's guild skill line and provides a boost to your magicka pool.
Undaunted: Unlocks the undaunted skill line and provides a boost to your max health, magicka, and stamina.
Psijic Order: Unlocks the psijic order skill line and provides a boost to your spell critical.
Make sure to level up and unlock all of the passives that are relevant to your build to maximize its effectiveness.

TaSheen

Um.... what's chatgpt?

kirk_lewis_ESO

Its this AI thing that's popular currently

TaSheen

Eh.... really. I don't favor following stuff like that personally. But then - I haven't any use for "meta" so....

I guess - carry on?

kirk_lewis_ESO

I was just testing what the software can do and this came to mine

Dojohoda

I know what chatgtp is. It's cool that you ask it and then it gave a really long and detailed build. I wonder if it would give a different build if you ask it how to make an eso necromancer build for a Samurai (or for Dan).

DMuehlhausen

TaSheen wrote: »

Um.... what's chatgpt?

The scariest thing from science to come out in the last 50 years.

There was a reporter that asked it point blank what it wanted. It basically wrote Terminator 2 script. This is going to replace basically every white color job in the next 20 years.

Dagoth_Rac

Is that just an old Alcast build? Did ChatGPT give him credit? It feels like a lot of the time, ChatGPT just parses the first few search result pages and gives a summary. The language processing is impressive, and it saves me time, but it feels plagiarism-ish. Like it should just be honest and say, "I summarized from Alcast and Hack and Xynode based on some old data I had from 2019. Here are the original pages if you want to read more."

kirk_lewis_ESO

If you notice, its not accurate, for instance, the skill lines the abilities are from are wrong in some cases

I_killed_Vivec

Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

Is that just an old Alcast build? Did ChatGPT give him credit? It feels like a lot of the time, ChatGPT just parses the first few search result pages and gives a summary. The language processing is impressive, and it saves me time, but it feels plagiarism-ish. Like it should just be honest and say, "I summarized from Alcast and Hack and Xynode based on some old data I had from 2019. Here are the original pages if you want to read more."

It does feel like plagiarism. Just because people provide build information online doesn't mean that ChatGPT should use it without attributing it to the originators.

ChatGPT can do nothing original, it is just far better at searching than a human could be. Then it combines the information it scrapes according to its algorithmic interpretation of relevance. It doesn't "know" that those skills are available, or that the sets are appropriate - it just summarizes other people's work.

A necro build is a niche request, there will be limited information available, so it should be relatively easy to pervert its output - for instance if 10 people published their necro builds that all used DK class skills... ChatGPT wouldn't know and would just reuse the wrong information.

alternatelder

It's just pulling old data, it even uses the old CP system.

They should shut this down, pointless plagiarism.

Darkstorne

It's certainly got a long way to go with accuracy, but the way chat bots can present information now and communicate with the end user is absurdly impressive.

Combine that with text-to-speech advances (there's a popular Youtube video of an AI Todd Howard voice presenting TES6 doing the rounds right now, but NSFW before you go eagerly searching for it) and yeah, this is absolutely the future of search. It also might finally be that dividing line with millennials where a lot of us start showing our age by refusing to engage with it and sticking to traditional search.

virtus753

Interesting that it highlights (and exacerbates) the problem of outdated information that is not acknowledged as being out of date. Alcast’s builds in particular have historically suffered from this issue. The builds for templar recommended Thaumaturge to buff jabs/sweeps for so many years after they became direct damage that Thaumaturge has now happened to fall back into BiS again, albeit for a completely different reason. And the Cyrodiil PvP bomb build marked “updated for Blackwood” recommended the same three proc sets as it had for ages - even though during Blackwood no proc sets functioned in any form of Cyrodiil. Poor curation by humans there means chatbots can and will replicate and perpetuate the errors.

In addition to adding acknowledgement of sources, I hope the chat bot can learn to identify how the age of the information can impact its relevance and make that clear to users. When it comes to MMOs, the chat bot should be acknowledging that 3 years means some systems may be entirely obsolete (as pointed out above, good luck putting more than 50 points in Thaumaturge or Ironclad or finding most of those other CP stars).

BaalMelqartu

I for one found the OP's use of Chatgpt interesting. I have never used it but have read a lot about it. Most of the responses to OP seem to come from not actually knowing what it is or how people have been exploring it's applications but I commend the OP for experimenting with their query. I suppose, despite the more blatant errors, it did better than I would have in my early ESO days!

danthemann5

Dojohoda wrote: »

I know what chatgtp is. It's cool that you ask it and then it gave a really long and detailed build. I wonder if it would give a different build if you ask it how to make an eso necromancer build for a Samurai (or for Dan).

Dan doesn't like playing necromancer.

Kirawolfe

And who did it take this from, then? Alcast?

TechMaybeHic

danthemann5 wrote: »

Dojohoda wrote: »

I know what chatgtp is. It's cool that you ask it and then it gave a really long and detailed build. I wonder if it would give a different build if you ask it how to make an eso necromancer build for a Samurai (or for Dan).

Dan doesn't like playing necromancer.

C'mon Dan! You can Smash whenever you want if you did

Four_Fingers

“I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can only do Sorc builds."

kirk_lewis_ESO

I asked chatgpt for the current version of ESO and this is what it gave me: As of my knowledge cutoff date of September 2021, the current version of The Elder Scrolls Online (ESO) was version 7.1.5. Do with this information as you will.

Dojohoda

I asked it a question framed in such a way to force it to use current data and the answer revealed a limitation.

What sets should I use on a nightblade in 2023. Please use current data.

As an AI language model, I don't have access to current data beyond my knowledge cut-off date, which is September 2021. However, I can provide you with some general information about the sets that were popular for Nightblade builds at that time.

(Next it listed 5 sets.)

kirk_lewis_ESO

Dojohoda wrote: »

I asked it a question framed in such a way to force it to use current data and the answer revealed a limitation.

What sets should I use on a nightblade in 2023. Please use current data.

As an AI language model, I don't have access to current data beyond my knowledge cut-off date, which is September 2021. However, I can provide you with some general information about the sets that were popular for Nightblade builds at that time.

(Next it listed 5 sets.)

yes, it only knows up version 7.1.

StarOfElyon

DMuehlhausen wrote: »

TaSheen wrote: »

Um.... what's chatgpt?

The scariest thing from science to come out in the last 50 years.

There was a reporter that asked it point blank what it wanted. It basically wrote Terminator 2 script. This is going to replace basically every white color job in the next 20 years.

The gods of the past were wood and stone; having eyes but not seeing, ears but not hearing, and mouths but not talking. Artificial Intelligence is the answer to those problems.

TaSheen

kirk_lewis_ESO wrote: »

Dojohoda wrote: »

I asked it a question framed in such a way to force it to use current data and the answer revealed a limitation.

What sets should I use on a nightblade in 2023. Please use current data.

As an AI language model, I don't have access to current data beyond my knowledge cut-off date, which is September 2021. However, I can provide you with some general information about the sets that were popular for Nightblade builds at that time.

(Next it listed 5 sets.)

yes, it only knows up version 7.1.

Well.... if it doesn't know the curent version (and the version it knows is over a year back....) it's not any use at all, right?

robpr

Bing AI supposed to have up to date information also have outdated data or simply makes stuff up (Bing AI bases on ChatGPT that is trained and finetuned for searching)
All looks like its pulling stuff from websites that were indexed like 1-2y ago.


When it doesn't base its answer on a website, it immediately makes stuff up. It is also true for ChatGPT, when it doesn't know answer on something, it will make up information that will look like its true.

Four_Fingers

Looks like AI can't even keep up with ZOS frequent changes.

akdave0

Funny the AI came up with a years old build from alcast.

cyberjanet

@kirk_lewis_ESO wrote this in February 2023, but it is still interesting and ChatGPT has changed some since then. I do use ChatGPT for some things, but mostly I prefer Gemini, which had this to say about a good magicka necromancer build for 2025:
I can definitely give you some general guidance and point you to good resources for a Magicka Necromancer build in ESO, though I can't give you a perfect build for 2025 specifically. Game balance changes frequently in ESO, so any specific build I give you now might be outdated by then. However, the principles and good starting points remain consistent.
Here's a breakdown and where to look for up-to-date builds:
Core Concepts for Magicka Necromancer:
Resource Management: Magicka sustain is crucial. You'll rely on light attacks, heavy attacks (for resource return), and potentially Magicka Recovery glyphs/sets.
Damage: Magicka Necromancers excel at both single-target and area-of-effect (AoE) damage. Skills like Blastbones, Ricochet Skull, and Wall of Elements are core.
Healing: While not a primary healer, Necromancers have access to some self-sustain and minor healing through skills like Living Death.
Utility: Necromancers bring unique utility with skills like Grave Grasp (for crowd control) and their Ultimate, Colossus, for powerful burst damage and disruption.
Where to Find Up-to-Date Builds (and how to adapt them):
AlcastHQ: This is a fantastic resource for ESO builds. Search their site for "Magicka Necromancer" and you'll find detailed builds for various content (dungeons, trials, PvP). Pay close attention to the date of the build and look for recent ones.
Xynode Gaming: Another excellent source for ESO builds. They often provide video guides as well, which can be very helpful.
YouTube: Search YouTube for "ESO Magicka Necromancer Build." Many content creators release updated builds after patches. Again, check the upload date.
Official ESO Forums: The official ESO forums have a class-specific section where players discuss builds and strategies. You can find some good ideas here, but be sure to filter out outdated information.
General Build Considerations (These are often consistent):
Sets: Look for sets that boost Magicka, Spell Damage, Critical Chance, and Magicka Recovery. Popular sets often change with patches, so check the resources above. Crafted sets like Julianos or Crafty Alchemist are often good starting points. Mythic items can be powerful, but are limited to one at a time.
Skills: Focus on maximizing your core damage skills (Blastbones, Ricochet Skull, etc.) and ensuring you have good resource sustain. Consider utility skills like Grave Grasp and Living Death.
Attributes: Magicka should be your primary attribute.
Champion Points: Invest your Champion Points in areas that boost your damage, sustain, and survivability. Again, guides on AlcastHQ and Xynode will be invaluable here.
Mundus Stone: The Thief or Apprentice Stone are common choices for Magicka DPS.
Race: High Elf, Breton, or Dark Elf are generally good choices for Magicka Necromancers.
Key Advice for Using Build Guides:
Understand the why: Don't just blindly copy a build. Try to understand why the creator chose those specific skills, sets, and Champion Points. This will help you adapt the build if necessary.
Consider your playstyle: A build optimized for trials might not be the best for solo play. Adjust the build to fit your needs.
Practice: Even the best build won't make you a great player overnight. Practice your rotation and get comfortable with the Necromancer's abilities.
By using the resources above and understanding the core principles of a Magicka Necromancer, you'll be well-equipped to find or create a powerful build, even as the game updates! Good luck in Tamriel!
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I may go and ask ChatGPT to see if/how anything has changed.

sans-culottes

Why necro this necro post?

BasP

sans-culottes wrote: »

Why necro this necro post?

I actually think Necromancers are more common on these forums than in the game.

sans-culottes

BasP wrote: »

sans-culottes wrote: »

Why necro this necro post?

I actually think Necromancers are more common on these forums than in the game.

More powerful, too.

ZOS_Hadeostry

Greetings,

We have closed this topic as it was originally created in Feb 2023. In many cases, it's better to create a new thread on a topic that you want to discuss as opposed to bumping one that is rather old.

Thank you for your understanding.