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Lusty Argonian Maid ..stolen? Borrowed? In another game
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So, in The Other Game That Shall Not Be Named, I found a clear reference to the Lusty Argonian Maid. Perhaps reference isn't the best word, as it seems to all but copy the title and softcore subtleties of the story itself. Their version is The Lusty Draconian Mage.
To be honest, I was a little offended by the blatant rip-off. It is clearly stolen from ESO, albeit with some very transparent window dressing.
Thoughts?
@ZOS_Kevin does this infringe on anything?
To be honest, I was a little offended by the blatant rip-off. It is clearly stolen from ESO, albeit with some very transparent window dressing.
Thoughts?
@ZOS_Kevin does this infringe on anything?
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Thee_Cheshire_Cat✭✭✭✭✭Games take ideas off each other all the time. WoW in particular is well known for doing it, but not just other games, real life too.
Keep in mind, WoW is older than ESO. It's possible ESO took the reference and adapted it themselves.Lady Kat, from the Cheshire Cats.Interested in HEAVY RP? IC at -all- times? https://thecheshirecatseso.proboards.com/#CheshireCats_RPnow5 -
Soraka✭✭✭✭✭I think that's kinda funny. A tongue in cheek reference probably isn't an infringement, but I don't know.5 -
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✭Thee_Cheshire_Cat wrote: »
Keep in mind, WoW is older than ESO. It's possible ESO took the reference and adapted it themselves.
The reference comes from their new xpac. ESO had it looooong before them.5 -
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✭✭Thee_Cheshire_Cat wrote: »Games take ideas off each other all the time. WoW in particular is well known for doing it, but not just other games, real life too.
Keep in mind, WoW is older than ESO. It's possible ESO took the reference and adapted it themselves.
The book first appeared in The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind, which predates WoW.19 -
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✭cyclonus11 wrote: »Thee_Cheshire_Cat wrote: »Games take ideas off each other all the time. WoW in particular is well known for doing it, but not just other games, real life too.
Keep in mind, WoW is older than ESO. It's possible ESO took the reference and adapted it themselves.
The book first appeared in The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind, which predates WoW.
If I remember correctly, I believe it is also in Daggerfall.... which predates Everquest ........
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✭✭✭✭✭The story itself bears no real resemblance to the ES book, aside from the general subject matter and inuendo.I've fought mudcrabs more fearsome than me!1 -
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✭✭✭To be honest, I was a little offended by the blatant rip-off. It is clearly stolen from ESO, albeit with some very transparent window dressing.
Ever heard of easter eggs?18 -
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✭✭✭✭It's an Easter egg to fans of the Elder Scrolls, to make them laugh, nothing more than a reference. It's quite obvious that it isn't being done with bad intent. They aren't "stealing", it's a homage honoring the Elder scrolls universe via a little tounge and cheek humor.
There is a huge difference between infringement and putting a reference into a game that says "Hey we're fans too! "Legends never die
They're written down in eternity
But you'll never see the price it costs
The scars collected all their lives
When everything's lost, they pick up their hearts and avenge defeat
Before it all starts, they suffer through harm just to touch a dream
Oh, pick yourself up, 'cause
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✭✭✭✭✭Sounds like typical parody/homage things that they've stuck in corners since the beginning.
(I remember running into Klannoc Macleod, The Islander, on one of the beaches way back in the day. For instance. And yes, he had a katana. As every Scottish swordsman should.
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✭✭✭*wipes the cobwebs off of the ole pitchfork and lights the torch*
LET'S GOOOOOOOFan of playing magblade since 2015. (PC NA)
Might be joking in comments.
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✭✭✭✭✭As other people have said the only resemblance is the name, so it's probably an easter egg for TES fans, the kind of thing games do all the time.
The story itself reminds me of the Investigator Vale books, in-universe fiction in ESO.PC EU player | She/her/hers | PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!
"Remember in this game we call life that no one said it's fair"1 -
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But the lusty argonian maid dates back to TES 3 Morrowind.Thee_Cheshire_Cat wrote: »Games take ideas off each other all the time. WoW in particular is well known for doing it, but not just other games, real life too.
Keep in mind, WoW is older than ESO. It's possible ESO took the reference and adapted it themselves.
It was also a bit of an issue because we met the author there and is one of the roles.Edited by zaria on February 6, 2023 6:13PMGrinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Parody is fair use and is often done by companies in extremely minor ways like this to pay homage to other companies. It's a friendly gesture to this game and its players nothing more.6 -
Clyde_BlueSnake✭✭✭It's no difference how multiple Elder Scrolls titles already made easter egg references of real-life & other media. Example, ESO has a easter egg book titled One Dragon Two Dragon (also to add former loremaster Lawrence Schick read a physical one in a video), it's a reference to Dr. Seuss' One Fish, Two Fish, Red Fish, Blue Fish.
Edited by Clyde_BlueSnake on February 6, 2023 6:52PMMain is Blue-Thuxis, a Argonian stamSorc, whose also is a werewolf! 2nd main, Cobalt-Thuxis, a Argonian stamArc, an identical twin sister to Blue-Thuxis, even is a werewolf as well! some alts:Nirn-Scale Rajthux (Argonian, Templar), Ros-Ei Nature-Thuxis (Argonian, Warden), Crimson-Thuxis (Argonian, DK), Bone-Thuxis Tharn (Argonian, Necro) Why Bone-Thuxis has Tharn as a last name:Some ESO history: I originally started from PS4 NA during June 10, 2015, I did reached CP 810+ on there. I eventually kinda got tired of paying PS+, so during February 4, 2019 I started moving to PC NA. Also CP: 810+. Nowadays I play ESO PC mostly, while PS4 is dust.The siblings were separated at a young age due to a Dres slaver raid, Blue, Cobalt, Ros-Ei & their mother were able to escape, Crimson & Bone weren't that lucky. Crimson was later "rescued" by some Orcs that later ambushed the House Dres Dunmers, unfortunately one Dunmer remained & sadly successfully brought the young Bone-Thuxis to the Dres plantation. Later an Imperial, a Tharn, bought Bone at a auction & later told he was free, the young Argonian sadly had no idea where to go & doesn't know if his family was still alive, so the Tharn adopted him into House Tharn. This family of Argonians finally reunited years later., Kenneth Clyde (Nord, Sorc), Selene Gray-Thuxis (Argonian, Nightblade), Urmanda (Orc, Warden)4 -
opalcity✭✭✭✭✭Calm down, op. There's a big difference between ripping something off or making a reference/homage to something. Even STRAY has a couple of references to Skyrim in it.
They aren't digs, just sharing the love!
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✭✭It's a clear reference to the ESO franchise, more of a hat tip. [snip]
[edited for baiting]Edited by ZOS_Icy on February 26, 2023 12:13PM2 -
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✭✭Hey remember that time before Eslweyr when ESO plagiarized a tabletop adventure and got caught?
https://www.pcgamesn.com/the-elder-scrolls-online-elsweyr-the-black-road
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✭I read through all of that.
I read it very carefully and consideratively.
And I will just say...
UWU;;;;I simp for vampire lords and Glemyos Wildhorn0 -
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✭✭✭*wipes the cobwebs off of the ole pitchfork and lights the torch*
LET'S GOOOOOOO
LEEEEEEEROYYYYY nnnnJENKINSSSSAnd if the dam breaks open many years too soon
And if there is no room upon the hill
And if your head explodes with dark forebodings too
I'll see you on the dark side of the moon2 -
Heartrage✭✭✭✭✭Games making references to other games isn’t really a problem or bad. If it’s just a reference to a book that’s a meme in elder scroll it’s fine.0
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Kappachi✭✭✭✭So, in The Other Game That Shall Not Be Named, I found a clear reference to the Lusty Argonian Maid. Perhaps reference isn't the best word, as it seems to all but copy the title and softcore subtleties of the story itself. Their version is The Lusty Draconian Mage.
To be honest, I was a little offended by the blatant rip-off. It is clearly stolen from ESO, albeit with some very transparent window dressing.
Thoughts?
@ZOS_Kevin does this infringe on anything?
Of course it doesn't infringe on anything, it's a parody/easter egg and falls under fair use... Have you never seen a parody easter egg in a game before? Skyrim has plenty of them that I could name off the top of my head.1 -
WetYoda✭✭I use her as one of my character names, so I often throw this dirty limerick into guild aplications for grins.
The Lusty Argonian Maid
Cleaning as her tail swayed.
Her name? Lifts-Her-Tail.
Her skin? Slightly scaled.
[snip]
[edited for inappropriate content]Edited by ZOS_Icy on February 26, 2023 12:14PMPC NA - GM of Atrocious Love Letter and proud owner of an imgakin monkey1
