Should there be a limit on how often somoene can create a new discussion/poll?

Thecompton73

I noticed some people seem to just spam the forums with discussions and polls that don't really offer much in the way of any meaningful debate and often just ask silly pointless questions. So I thought I'd make a poll and see how people feel about those types of posts.

ArchangelIsraphel

NO

We got the polls, but where are all the dancers?

*ba dum tss*

I'll escort myself out now.

spartaxoxo

NO

No.

Is this a duplicate discussion or new topics?
Is this person being constrictive in their communication, or at least obviously trying to be?
Are they advertising?

Those are the kinds of things I personally care about when looking at the forums. I don't really care who starts the discussion so long as the discussion is respectful and not the same topic spammed over and over.

You can review the spam rules here

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/502831/community-rules#latest

Thecompton73

Yes

spartaxoxo wrote: »

No.

Is this a duplicate discussion or new topics?
Is this person being constrictive in their communication, or at least obviously trying to be?
Are they advertising?

Those are the kinds of things I personally care about when looking at the forums. I don't really care who starts the discussion so long as the discussion is respectful and not the same topic spammed over and over.

Hmmm this is tempting me to blitz the forums with niche, but unique, poll questions and wishes for changes that have absolutely no chance of happening.

BretonMage

NO

Thecompton73 wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

No.

Is this a duplicate discussion or new topics?
Is this person being constrictive in their communication, or at least obviously trying to be?
Are they advertising?

Those are the kinds of things I personally care about when looking at the forums. I don't really care who starts the discussion so long as the discussion is respectful and not the same topic spammed over and over.

Hmmm this is tempting me to blitz the forums with niche, but unique, poll questions and wishes for changes that have absolutely no chance of happening.

If you were doing it for trolling purposes, and they are unconstructive discussions, they would probably get reported and deleted.

If you did it for trolling purposes, but they were actually helpful, constructive discussions, it would be a net positive for the community.

So I still don't see a reason for limiting posts/polls.

Cazador

NO

If they're all separate topics and not just trolling I don't really mind.

Thecompton73

Yes

BretonMage wrote: »

Thecompton73 wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

No.

Is this a duplicate discussion or new topics?
Is this person being constrictive in their communication, or at least obviously trying to be?
Are they advertising?

Those are the kinds of things I personally care about when looking at the forums. I don't really care who starts the discussion so long as the discussion is respectful and not the same topic spammed over and over.

Hmmm this is tempting me to blitz the forums with niche, but unique, poll questions and wishes for changes that have absolutely no chance of happening.

If you were doing it for trolling purposes, and they are unconstructive discussions, they would probably get reported and deleted.

If you did it for trolling purposes, but they were actually helpful, constructive discussions, it would be a net positive for the community.

So I still don't see a reason for limiting posts/polls.

I was just being cheeky but if I did do it they won't be obvious troll posts, just lot's of silly questions and far out suggestions that will never get implemented in a million years to fall in line with all the others I've been seeing lately.

Soarora

NO

Not everything has to be a meaningful discussion. I quite like the fun polls, brightens up the place a bit.

Syldras

Thecompton73 wrote: »

just lot's of silly questions and far out suggestions that will never get implemented in a million years to fall in line with all the others I've been seeing lately.

While I see they can be annoying, there's not much to be done if they're not against the TOS. I'd suggest to just ignore them - if everyone does that, the poster will probably get bored after not getting any reactions.

A posting limitation will also limit actually interesting and useful posts.

Thecompton73

Yes

Syldras wrote: »

Thecompton73 wrote: »

just lot's of silly questions and far out suggestions that will never get implemented in a million years to fall in line with all the others I've been seeing lately.

While I see they can be annoying, there's not much to be done if they're not against the TOS. I'd suggest to just ignore them - if everyone does that, the poster will probably get bored after not getting any reactions.

A posting limitation will also limit actually interesting and useful posts.

Yeah, it's that tenth new topic of the day when most people are warmed up and really start posting interesting content/sarcasm

BretonMage

NO

Thecompton73 wrote: »

I was just being cheeky but if I did do it they won't be obvious troll posts, just lot's of silly questions and far out suggestions that will never get implemented in a million years to fall in line with all the others I've been seeing lately.

I thought some of the questions were fun or interesting.

Syldras

Thecompton73 wrote: »

Yeah, it's that tenth new topic of the day when most people are warmed up and really start posting interesting content/sarcasm

Not these people, of course. Someone who only posts to troll won't suddenly write something meaningful after 10 posts, that's obvious. But there are also posters who are rather active that write good quality posts. Those would be limited too.

ArchangelIsraphel

NO

Thecompton73 wrote: »

Syldras wrote: »

Thecompton73 wrote: »

just lot's of silly questions and far out suggestions that will never get implemented in a million years to fall in line with all the others I've been seeing lately.

While I see they can be annoying, there's not much to be done if they're not against the TOS. I'd suggest to just ignore them - if everyone does that, the poster will probably get bored after not getting any reactions.

A posting limitation will also limit actually interesting and useful posts.

Yeah, it's that tenth new topic of the day when most people are warmed up and really start posting interesting content/sarcasm

At least the current selection of polls seem to have the intent to foster positive discussion and curiosity within the community. The same can't be said for all polls, of course, where the intent seems to be something quite different indeed.

FluffWit

I believe we're up to 16 stickys, 13 by the same guy!

Thecompton73

Yes

FluffWit wrote: »

I believe we're up to 16 stickys, 13 by the same guy!

You win the forums today.

FeedbackOnly

NO

I do the same so um....no

Thecompton73

Yes

FeedbackOnly wrote: »

I do the same so um....no

No shame in voting for your own interests.

DreamyLu

NO

I like polls. I just regret that they're often biased.

Poll creators tend to add comments to each poll options, modifying/restricting/extending it's original meaning. Like: "yes, but I hate the sea". So, we would have said yes, but if we like the sea, we can't select the option...

Also there are the polls forcing to chose between a restricted amount of answers, like for example, just "yes" or "no" without "other". But it always needs an "other" because in most cases, the world isn't binary. And by restricted the choices, poll is biased because eliminating part of the posters.

Beside, it should always be kept in mind that the forum population is representative of certain categories of players, but not of all ESO players.

Supreme_Atromancer

NO

Naaaah, totally unnecessary!

Where do you want to draw the line in policing what others talk about, it doesn't hurt anyone.

Look, I see posts I think are silly all the time. Or posts that frame the question in order to cast shade on others (which I think this thread is also doing). Its such a simple solution- scroll past- that its bewildering that we need to imagine more policing would be the solution.

We already have people who want to force their will on what others can talk about, or trigger-finger the report feature. We don't need more fuel for that fire.

If you don't like the topic, scroll past. And if you're seriously genuinely worried about the integrity and quality of forum discussion about Elder Scrolls, contribute some better stuff yourself.

chessalavakia_ESO

Yes

I think more limits might be beneficial in most sections. Ex: You wouldn't apply it to the Player's Helping Players Section.

But, I'd aim the restrictions more at longer term users like myself than at people that are just getting into actively using forums.

I think it would be interesting to see how forums functioned if you started off with a base number of posts (New people to activity on forums tend to have lots of ideas that on rare occasions are good so you want them to be able to post) and each day have the number you could post go up slightly so that if you consistently posted in a prolific fashion you would run out of posts and have to be more selective about what you said as many of us with higher post counts don't have much new to say on many of the issues and are just repeating ourselves over and over much of the time.

Thecompton73

Yes

Supreme_Atromancer wrote: »

Naaaah, totally unnecessary!

Where do you want to draw the line in policing what others talk about, it doesn't hurt anyone.

Look, I see posts I think are silly all the time. Or posts that frame the question in order to cast shade on others (which I think this thread is also doing). Its such a simple solution- scroll past- that its bewildering that we need to imagine more policing would be the solution.

We already have people who want to force their will on what others can talk about, or trigger-finger the report feature. We don't need more fuel for that fire.

If you don't like the topic, scroll past. And if you're seriously genuinely worried about the integrity and quality of forum discussion about Elder Scrolls, contribute some better stuff yourself.

Something something, taking your own advice, something something

Supreme_Atromancer

NO

Thecompton73 wrote: »

Supreme_Atromancer wrote: »

Naaaah, totally unnecessary!

Where do you want to draw the line in policing what others talk about, it doesn't hurt anyone.

Look, I see posts I think are silly all the time. Or posts that frame the question in order to cast shade on others (which I think this thread is also doing). Its such a simple solution- scroll past- that its bewildering that we need to imagine more policing would be the solution.

We already have people who want to force their will on what others can talk about, or trigger-finger the report feature. We don't need more fuel for that fire.

If you don't like the topic, scroll past. And if you're seriously genuinely worried about the integrity and quality of forum discussion about Elder Scrolls, contribute some better stuff yourself.

Something something, taking your own advice, something something

I do. I don't engage in a topic I'm not interested in, and therefore don't feel the need to have them shut down.

Sarannah

NO

No, there shouldn't be a limit or restriction.

But it does annoy me that some players find their opinions so important, that they have to create a new discussion/poll when there are already four or five open threads about the same topic. And these players usually do so with the most foolish content, or with "missing the entire point" content. The staff should really do a better job to consolidate topics like that, so that if ZOS devs ever check one of these topics, they can see all opinions and not just the ones in that specific thread. As missing certain points of view can change an entire decision.
But this is just my personal annoyance, and I doubt this will change.

But no, there should not be a limit or restriction on how often someone can post. Even the ones I disagree with should always be able to freely post! And I find healthy discussions good, as this often opens up ways or solutions we would otherwise never even come up with. (being a part of healthy discussions is good for people themselves as well)

PS: I am actually against ignoring posts we disagree with, as not posting our disagreement will make other readers think we agree. Including the ZOS devs. So even if I don't feel like posting, I often give an agree to players who voice a similar opinion.
PPS: The people I end up in a normal/polite discussion with, I often give them an insightful.

Danikat

NO

If you think it's silly and pointless ignore it. If as you seem to be implying the majority of people will agree with you then it will quickly fall off the first page and be even easier for you to ignore.

If it sticks around and keeps getting responses it's a safe assumption that a lot of people do find it interesting, but you can still continue to ignore it.

bmnoble

NO

If it looks like nonsense ignore it and move on, the discussions/polls will get buried by new discussions that people are actually interreacting with eventually and disappear from the first few pages only to be necroed a few months or years later only to be closed or buried once again.

FeedbackOnly

NO

Thecompton73 wrote: »

FeedbackOnly wrote: »

I do the same so um....no

No shame in voting for your own interests.

On perspective of the other side. We do this because often we just want to discuss the game. We tend to be excited or emotional. If the forums wear more lively then it would be hard to notice people like us.

It's like the tallest tree gets hurt by the wind. Also got to pick a casual avatar to blend in.... We only notice them as much because they picked red avatar of all things.

On point, just a bit to emotional. It's not a forever thing just let it go. It sucks to be on the other end of threads like this.

endgamesmug

Yes

As long as i dont have to wade through 3 pages of filler, mind you i just dont read those ones so probably no harm.

Northwold

Yes

Essentially the entire front page last night was taken up by polls from one person, so yes. It's supposed to be a forum of many voices, not the pulpit of one.

HerrKeinTipp_MrNoTip

NO

No. Let they who are without sin cast the first stone. Thanks for the time wasting noise, but.

"don't really offer much in the way of any meaningful debate and often just ask silly pointless question"

You are literally breaking your own artbitraty rules on how the world should work by asking....yawn...

Dr_Con

NO

I think that the polling is a bit out of hand, though I utilize it myself there are people who don't post their polls in an objective manner- they only word them in such a way that they are guiding the outcome- which makes their interpretation of the results only subjective and biased.

This being the case, I would rather they voice their opinion and allow others and myself to criticize the subjectivity of their posts rather than prevent them from making a poll to express their ideas.

OutLaw_Nynx

Yes

It can become spammy. I also don’t know if blocking people keeps me from seeing their threads.

Just blocked someone random to test it… still see their posts.