The Lag Experience

NinjaApacHe

After some months I logged again in Cyro, PC EU, Gray Host. Week days, in the morning, when it is only me and, maybe, 10 other people it is almost playable, but, when the 12th person gets in....... OMG!!! My Lethal Arrow takes a 4 second animation to shoot.....
I really wonder how, in 8 years, you could not fix this bad game issue? I mean: in 8 years smartphones, computers, tvs, games, cars, etc. Etc., improved. Why this game's stuck with the same old problems?

Dr_Con

NinjaApacHe wrote: »

After some months I logged again in Cyro, PC EU, Gray Host. Week days, in the morning, when it is only me and, maybe, 10 other people it is almost playable, but, when the 12th person gets in....... OMG!!! My Lethal Arrow takes a 4 second animation to shoot.....
I really wonder how, in 8 years, you could not fix this bad game issue? I mean: in 8 years smartphones, computers, tvs, games, cars, etc. Etc., improved. Why this game's stuck with the same old problems?

Cryptocurrency became a thing for big companies to start to farm/manage, a lot of this required massive hardware orders, which drove up the prices of processing units (if you remember, graphics cards used to be 200-400 dollars to run most games- when cryptocurrency came into the picture, they shot up many times that price). Shortage of parts as well as global cyber attacks makes sourcing these parts difficult, and outsourcing a bit problematic. This is an aside, but Escape from Tarkov over the years, has gotten ridiculed all the time for their GoDaddy servers and poor performance- we don't want "new" if it means unstable performance. Inability to source the parts, however, is likely why they haven't been able to do the hardware upgrades for all the other servers. Combine the fact that they are hiring a ton of positions at ZOS and sister companies and you have their staff being stretched thin as they try to optimize 26 million lines of code, all while creating a new MMO and trying to put out content for the community to keep the game going.


https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/63363

We are in the home stretch of upgrading and replacing all ESO datacenter hardware—which of course has been significantly delayed by the ongoing global slowdown of sourcing computer hardware. Once complete, ESO’s servers and infrastructure will be much more reliable, and as we saw from the one Realm that has been upgraded so far (PC North America) there will be some performance improvements as well.

Almost all the hardware should be delivered and in place by December and then we'll need a month or two to install and test everything before we shift over to the new hardware. Please note that we will be prioritizing all three Realms in the EU datacenter first, and then will return to the NA datacenter to finish moving Xbox and PlayStation Realms there. We are as frustrated as you that this has taken so long—but it is happening and will be done and ready for all players, probably in late February or March of 2023.

Our multi-threading work continues, as we announced a month or so back. Just to remind everyone, this is the initiative that will result in better overall server performance. As we already announced, we will be phasing these changes in over the course of 2023, starting with the Chapter in Q2. We’ll keep everyone updated in patch notes going forward.

This level of transparency was needed. There is a lot of good information in that article, I recommend reading/skimming through it.

NinjaApacHe

Is PC NA experiencing a better pvp in Cyro? No lag?

Dr_Con

NinjaApacHe wrote: »

Is PC NA experiencing a better pvp in Cyro? No lag?

User experience varies.

Proof to me is when I can see that my broadcast isn't interrupted, but that lag is happening in Cyrodiil.

If you were to ask me, lag is still happening, and things aren't registering as they should.

Lebkuchen

"Working on it, no ETA..."

Quality control should be top priority after so many years of deterioration. But there seem to be a lot of misunderstandings about how much performance issues and bugs impact the gamer's experience. We get vague announcements a few times a year, but still don't know if and when they are really going to fix their game.

At this point i believe that we will have nuclear fusion reactors before ESO gets out of the beta test phase.

React

NinjaApacHe wrote: »

Is PC NA experiencing a better pvp in Cyro? No lag?

The experience is better, but not by a ton. The difference between NA and EU now is that NA doesn't lag until the campaign fills, at which point it becomes unplayable. EU is laggy at like 2 bars each faction.

NA was perfect right after the server replacement, but has since degraded back to near unplayability.

Jammy420

Can confirm, was on this afternoon at 2 in the afternoon, CET, and it lagged severely from then all the way till 11 pm. Like, what is even being done? This would embarass me if it were my game.

Necrotech_Master

NinjaApacHe wrote: »

Is PC NA experiencing a better pvp in Cyro? No lag?

i wouldnt say "no lag", but personally i only ever experience lag in grey host, and thats during a very large keep fight in which theres like as many as 3 ball groups running around or a field battle that is like a 30+ vs 30+ zerg

in blackreach i very rarely experience any major lag that i see in grey host

ZOS_Bill

Our help article linked below offers different troubleshooting you can try for latency issues while playing ESO.

Latency / Lag - Technical Support - The Elder Scrolls Online

Lebkuchen

"...different troubleshooting you can try for latency issues..." Sometimes i wonder if they even know how underwhelming the performance of this game can be. I am pretty sure they still don't know how to fix it, but it would be nice if they could just say something like this: "We know that our game has big performance issues and we will do our best to fix this soon. Meanwhile you can try the link below, but it will probably not help at all, be a big waste of time, and maybe you will even damage your home network if you make mistakes..." Instead of always looking for the problems on customer side they could just own it and do something about it like every other company.

Starlight_Knight

Saying things like "gets worse every patch" almost feels like a meme at this point, but its true, and after this many patches you're right in saying 4 seconds to cast a skill - it's ridiculous really - once sets like dork convergence procs its a guarenteed kill becuase the time it takes for the server to get you out of the red its game over.

Its such a stressfull feeling - the game as far as pvp performance is the worst its ever been - not to mention the desinks and just twitching on the spot or hitting somone and nothing connects becuase there not actually where you think they are.

I can honnestly say that EVERY time i die in pvp is lag. buttons just dont work, thats not to say i wouldnt have died anyway its saying that the game dosnt do what i tell it too. cant break free or break free 2 or even 3 times in a row, sieges not firing, cant get off a siege in time, cant dodge roll, run up to somone and hit them.. no damage numbers.

The amount of times ive emptied a full toxic barrage into somone and its not even give any damage number is uncountable at this point.

People are always acusing others of hacking using lag bots and things and thats understandable - we want to hold somone accountable for this.

Please ZOS - Fix PVP!