Any way to get crown gems other than from crates

Beilin_Balreis_Colcan

I'd like to get more crown gems to get a crown store item I particularly like, but I don't want to gamble on the crates. Is there any other way to get some ?

boi_anachronism_

Nope. Sol. 😟

fred4

Well that's Endeavor points really, isn't it?

Beilin_Balreis_Colcan

fred4 wrote: »

Well that's Endeavor points really, isn't it?

Excuse my ignorance, but what do you mean ? Is there some link between crown gems and endeavour points ?

colossalvoids

vsrs_au wrote: »

fred4 wrote: »

Well that's Endeavor points really, isn't it?

Excuse my ignorance, but what do you mean ? Is there some link between crown gems and endeavour points ?

Endeavours are also used for purchasing same crate items, that's their sole purpose.

calitrumanb14_ESO

Convert Twitch drop to gems. It's slower than collecting endeavors, though.

Danikat

The items available for seals of endeavour always exactly match the current items available for crown gems (both ones in the crates and the gem exclusives) because the point of Endeavours is to comply with Microsoft's policy that all loot box items will also be obtainable by playing. So if you want a specific item without gambling the best way is to complete endeavours and save up the seals, but it can take a long time to do that (literally months for a radiant apex mount).

Alternatively there are 3rd party sites which record crate drops and can estimate how many crates you'll need to get enough gems to buy an item, which is sort-of guaranteed but expensive. You'll get a lot of other stuff from the crates of course, but if you only want one specific item it's probably not worth it.

If you don't want to buy crates you can get gems from Twitch crates, but that's a lot slower because you can only get so many crates per day and they have a much smaller selection of possible drops and the majority are the low value consumables.

So in summary:
Seals/Twitch crates: free, but slow
Buying crates: fast, but likely to be expensive (whether you get it as a drop or with gems)

Beilin_Balreis_Colcan

Thanks, all, now it makes more sense to me.

Necrotech_Master

endeavors are much better, because then you dont have to buy the crates lol

still find it dumb though that the endeavors and gems are different currencies for basically the exact same thing

Beilin_Balreis_Colcan

Can seals or gems be converted to each other ?

SpiritKitten

vsrs_au wrote: »

Can seals or gems be converted to each other ?

no

Beilin_Balreis_Colcan

I should have mentioned: the item I want is only available for gems ( and I lack sufficient gems for the item ), which is why I asked about seals/gems conversion. So accumulating endeavours won't help me here, unfortunately .

Danikat

vsrs_au wrote: »

I should have mentioned: the item I want is only available for gems ( and I lack sufficient gems for the item ), which is why I asked about seals/gems conversion. So accumulating endeavours won't help me here, unfortunately .

Which item is it?

I can't log in to check them all right now but as far as I'm aware everything sold for gems is also available for seals.

SpiritKitten

vsrs_au wrote: »

I should have mentioned: the item I want is only available for gems ( and I lack sufficient gems for the item ), which is why I asked about seals/gems conversion. So accumulating endeavours won't help me here, unfortunately .

This is incorrect. In the crown store, click on crates, then click over at the tab on top to seals, and there are the exact same items.

Dagoth_Rac

You can buy with gems or seals but not a combo. So if item is 100 gems or 4000 seals, and you have 50 gems and 2000 seals, you are out of luck. You can't add together your gems and seals, or convert your 50 gems to an extra 2000 seals, or convert your 2000 seals to an extra 50 gems. You need the full amount of one currency or the full amount of other currency.

Beilin_Balreis_Colcan

SpiritKitten wrote: »

vsrs_au wrote: »

I should have mentioned: the item I want is only available for gems ( and I lack sufficient gems for the item ), which is why I asked about seals/gems conversion. So accumulating endeavours won't help me here, unfortunately .

This is incorrect. In the crown store, click on crates, then click over at the tab on top to seals, and there are the exact same items.

No, the item I want is only available for gems. If I click the Seals button at the top, a different list of items is displayed which doesn't include the item I want.

Necrotech_Master

in the endeavor store, everything that is in the crates is in the same respective tier it is from the crate, everything that is NOT in the crates such as the other gem-exclusive items usually shows up in the "featured"/"limited time" tabs that are in the endeavor store

i would also be curious to know which item you were trying to get that is not included in both

Beilin_Balreis_Colcan

I was wrong: the item I want is available for seals (although far more than I currently have). The reason I didn't find it before is that when I clicked the seals button at the top of the dialog window, the crown crates subcategory that I'd selected wasn't selected in the new view. In other words, for both the "Store" and "Seals of Endeavor" buttons, the "CROWN CRATES" subcategory selection is remembered by the game.

So I can get the item I want without using gambling, but I won't be able to buy it any time soon.

I learned a bit more about the game's UI (which can be confusing sometimes), and I appreciate everyone's feedback.

Beilin_Balreis_Colcan

A wee bit off topic: I've just started paying attention to what the daily/weekly endeavours are, and found, to my disappointment, that there's a very limited number of them. Because of this, it will be several months before I can afford to buy that item I want. If I was inclined towards conspiracy theories, I *might* even suspect ZOS did this deliberately in order to encourage more spending on the crown crates (leaving us at the mercy of random numbers).

Jaimeh

You can get a very small amount of gems via Twitch drops: basically watching ESO streams during certain events etc., will grant an Ouroboros crate, which is free and you can convert everything you get inside to gems. Of course in order to get any significant number of gems with this way you have to wait a really long time, but technically it's another method and it's free. The Seals of Endeavours is a much faster way. Also, I know you said you don't like to gamble, but you can get crates with in-game gold via crown gifting (basically you give gold to another player and they gift you the crates--zos approves this but be careful of scammers, it's better to do it via friend/guildies or discord servers like tamriel crown exchange) and in this way at leats you don't gamble with real world money. Other than that, there's no other ways to get stuff inside crates (oh, in the past they used to include one crate from a given season in the daily log in rewards, they don't do it anymore though sadly).