Why's the name change token so expensive?

Araneae6537

Maybe it costs so much to minimize too many character name changes at once, each requiring a check to see whether it is available. In contrast, changing your character’s appearance doesn’t require any such checks. Just a guess. The skaafin explanation is also plausible. 🤔

NeKryXe

Araneae6537 wrote: »

Maybe it costs so much to minimize too many character name changes at once, each requiring a check to see whether it is available. In contrast, changing your character’s appearance doesn’t require any such checks. Just a guess. The skaafin explanation is also plausible. 🤔

I think that they can add an automatic search engine to do that for them, instead of doing it manually. But if they are checking all names manually, then it explains the price. At 2500 crowns they probably don't sell more than a couple of this things per year. It'll not be much trouble in fact.

zaria

Lykeion wrote: »

In some user systems, the frequency of user name changes is limited for database maintenance purposes. This is understandable. But apparently ESO does not have this problem: you can change the role name as many times as you want as long as you have enough name changing tokens. So what is the reason for setting the name changing token at such an unacceptable price? Why does a feature that is common in other MMORPGs cost so much in ESO?

Using character name as primary key==I'm an noob who hard cast crystal frag.
But its an problem you have to deal with later if your software is popular.
Know all about this.

Araneae6537

NeKryXe wrote: »

Araneae6537 wrote: »

Maybe it costs so much to minimize too many character name changes at once, each requiring a check to see whether it is available. In contrast, changing your character’s appearance doesn’t require any such checks. Just a guess. The skaafin explanation is also plausible. 🤔

I think that they can add an automatic search engine to do that for them, instead of doing it manually. But if they are checking all names manually, then it explains the price. At 2500 crowns they probably don't sell more than a couple of this things per year. It'll not be much trouble in fact.

Lol, I’m sure it’s automatic, just like during character creation, but lots of things be to limit server load, no?

I’m not saying it should cost so much or be a difficulty, just guessing at the reason for the price if it’s not arbitrary.

Thee_Cheshire_Cat

Major_Soulless wrote: »

The fact they charge to change a characters name is bad enough it should be a ESO+ perk at least

This is a great, and reasonable idea.

Or to have the option to do it at a very reduced cost.

Ragnarok0130

The crown store has been exorbiatantly expensive ever since it launched with prices far higher than any other MMO I've played. The real reason the prices are so high is ZoS:

NeKryXe

Ragnarok0130 wrote: »

The crown store has been exorbiatantly expensive ever since it launched with prices far higher than any other MMO I've played. The real reason the prices are so high is ZoS:

You're right. However, even within all the insanity of high Crown Store prices, I think the Name Change Token might actually be the most offensive price of all. It's the one thing that just seems like a pure and utter rip off without any possible justification. They can justify everything else as game contents or utilities, claiming creative work or service and so on... But "Name Change"? A toon's name? It's not even the change of a player's identity. That's just cheating!

jtm1018

Video games, first and foremost, is a business.

Its business brother, its business.

gariondavey

If a bunch of people reported your name, you'd get a mandatory name change

NeKryXe

jtm1018 wrote: »

Video games, first and foremost, is a business.

Its business brother, its business.

Nobody's talking about the video games business. That's ok. We are all paying for the game and willing to support other contents. Changing a name is just a character description, not a video game task, something that has been possible on almost all role play games ever released without an extra payment.

NeKryXe

gariondavey wrote: »

If a bunch of people reported your name, you'd get a mandatory name change

Why would anyone report a name? It doesn't make any sense. Specially on ESO where most words are already banned anyway.

Also, if a player is forced to change a character's name, then it wasn't their own intention, so they shouldn't even pay anything. If it's not the player who wants to change his character's name then it should be unquestionably free, or paid by whoever wants it changed. For all intents and purposes, if the name was already approved, then it's a favor the player will do by changing a character's name to please someone else.

I don't get the point in this discussion. I'm talking about the established price for anyone who wants to change their character's name without any obligation.

Amottica

NeKryXe wrote: »

I got really curious in understanding why it's so extremely expensive.

Because enough players are willing to pay the price.

davidtk

If you will compare price of the name change token with other mmos, eso is rly ovepriced. 2500 crowns price is about 20€ ...
In the WoW its about 10€ and i tried to search... GW 9.99€, FF 7.5€?

gariondavey

NeKryXe wrote: »

gariondavey wrote: »

If a bunch of people reported your name, you'd get a mandatory name change

Why would anyone report a name? It doesn't make any sense. Specially on ESO where most words are already banned anyway.

Also, if a player is forced to change a character's name, then it wasn't their own intention, so they shouldn't even pay anything. If it's not the player who wants to change his character's name then it should be unquestionably free, or paid by whoever wants it changed. For all intents and purposes, if the name was already approved, then it's a favor the player will do by changing a character's name to please someone else.

I don't get the point in this discussion. I'm talking about the established price for anyone who wants to change their character's name without any obligation.

I'm saying zos makes you rename your character in this situation but it doesn't cost anything
I agree the price is absurd
My comment was explaining what I've seen other players do

Arthur_Spoonfondle

Prices of goods and services are only high, because plenty of players keep paying those prices. The only way to change things, is to stop paying, then ZOS will have to cut prices to boost revenue. No company can afford to charge more than it's customers will pay.

Malthorne

It’s the ESO crownstore. Everything is expensive.

ProudMary

Monetization schemes. Everything in the crown store is radically over priced. If you want something cosmetic, like a name change, you can pay for it or go without. Take it or leave it, but this is the ZOS business model.

wilykcat

Agreed.

Veinblood1965

What's really sad is I changed the name of one on my toon this week and misspelled it. I had to use another token to change it again sigh.

BaalMelqartu

Just a heads up, included in the cost (for some reason), changing your name/race/appearance also resets all your Addons. I am STILL trying to figure out the ones I need to disable or tweak after changing a name.

davidtk

BaalMelqartu wrote: »

Just a heads up, included in the cost (for some reason), changing your name/race/appearance also resets all your Addons. I am STILL trying to figure out the ones I need to disable or tweak after changing a name.

@BaalMelqartu
Use text editor what can change text inside files on batch.
Then just make batch of SavedVariables folder. And let text editor change character name to new name.
Or just go by yourself file by file.

I using our PSPad. www.pspad.com
It can make a batch for file in the whole folder for replace text.
So you will select folder and then you specify that you want replace text Character1 to Character2 and click start and done.

I used this method for change many character names and even account name in addons.

RisenEclipse

It's a shame so many things are way too overpriced. They're losing money with me. I like to rp. Id have bought tons of name tokens, appearance tokens, and outfit slots if they were a decent price. Now I won't buy any because the price is way too high lol

FeedbackOnly

ADarklore wrote: »

I typically buy a race/name change token because it's only 1000 Crowns more versus the cost individually.

Alliance bundle is a good deal

NeKryXe

gariondavey wrote: »

NeKryXe wrote: »

gariondavey wrote: »

If a bunch of people reported your name, you'd get a mandatory name change

Why would anyone report a name? It doesn't make any sense. Specially on ESO where most words are already banned anyway.

Also, if a player is forced to change a character's name, then it wasn't their own intention, so they shouldn't even pay anything. If it's not the player who wants to change his character's name then it should be unquestionably free, or paid by whoever wants it changed. For all intents and purposes, if the name was already approved, then it's a favor the player will do by changing a character's name to please someone else.

I don't get the point in this discussion. I'm talking about the established price for anyone who wants to change their character's name without any obligation.

I'm saying zos makes you rename your character in this situation but it doesn't cost anything
I agree the price is absurd
My comment was explaining what I've seen other players do

[snip] So THEY want you to change the name that was accepted by his system, and they also force you to pay for that? [snip]

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Lumenn

The high prices are one reason why I (and others) don't want things like mats(mats for example)sold in the cs. Mat requirements for furniture are already high and subject to rng, or just buy the piece at a ridiculous price(either crowns or if you're REALLY lucky for thousands of gold at furniture merchant.) ESO is grindy enough and I don't want to go back to the days of EQ. [snip] I still say they'd make more $$ selling bites of cheese to a bunch of rats than only selling chunks to the fat rats. But I'm not privy to their PnL reports so /shrug

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Concrete

Do NOT spend a single crown on a 'Name Change Token'.

It will not change your name on Leader boards, and ZoS will NOT acknowledge or reimburse cost of crowns, after multiple tickets raised to highlight the issuue

zaria

NeKryXe wrote: »

gariondavey wrote: »

If a bunch of people reported your name, you'd get a mandatory name change

Why would anyone report a name? It doesn't make any sense. Specially on ESO where most words are already banned anyway.

Also, if a player is forced to change a character's name, then it wasn't their own intention, so they shouldn't even pay anything. If it's not the player who wants to change his character's name then it should be unquestionably free, or paid by whoever wants it changed. For all intents and purposes, if the name was already approved, then it's a favor the player will do by changing a character's name to please someone else.

I don't get the point in this discussion. I'm talking about the established price for anyone who wants to change their character's name without any obligation.

Any name who is not in use and pass the censorship and blocked name list can be used.
And spiteful people might report an name who can somehow been seen as questionable if you kill them in PvP or other ridiculous reason.

Forced name change is free however.

jtm1018

NeKryXe wrote: »

jtm1018 wrote: »

Video games, first and foremost, is a business.

Its business brother, its business.

Nobody's talking about the video games business. That's ok. We are all paying for the game and willing to support other contents. Changing a name is just a character description, not a video game task, something that has been possible on almost all role play games ever released without an extra payment.

Its business meant to make money.

Buy that and they make money.

Its just business.

Nothing personal.

Einar_Hrafnarsson

Everything in Zos Store is expensive wich is the reason they dont make enough money.

In FFXIV a complete character change minus name costs 7 bucks and a lot of people spam this on a weekly basis cause it is "only 7 bucks"

It is cheaper wich is why people buy it more often and in the end spend even more. A lot of companies havent cought up on that tho.

OH and btw: name changes are buggy anyway! If you go to Cyrodiil the name you had first with the character will ALWAYS be shown. So if your name was "Dunmer123" when you made the character, then it will always be displayed in the Leaderboard.

Ragnarok0130

"Never have the threads of monetization become so twisted. Shareholders hang in the balance. Come, champion. Let us preserve what threatens to unravel, our annual bonus, like dollars tossed in a roaring fire."