It's time for new class(es)

proteinexe

Definitely. This year has to be big for the game, and one sure way to do that is either a class OR a new combat skill line. NOT a support/passive/world skill line.

Bard, Monk, Engineer. The list goes on, there are still easily spots which arnt covered by the other classes. Come on ZoS, do us well this year.

meekmiko

Pugilist/Brawler/Monk/Fighter
Whatever else you wanna call an unarmed class, plz.

I wanna punch stuff. 🥊

Iriidius

We dont need an archer class, bow sorc was strongest class in u34 before mag dk and magplar and bow nbs are also all time good archers and templars(since jabs nerf) and necromants toolkit also synergizes well with bow skills. Archers are build around a single weapon(bow) while other classes are supposed to work with every weapon. Needed additions to bow should be integrated in bow skillline. If we make archer class we also need a swordsinget(2h) class, a sworddancer(dual wield) class usw.
Most archers are Xv1 gankers anyway that avoid every fight and only shoot you in the back when you are already fighting multiple people or if they are unreachable on a wall or they are kiting all the time.
And any new class will probably overperform to make people buy new chapter and everybody not levelling them up fast will be at disadvantage.

Heartrage

I would rather have more skills/morphs for the already existing classes.

Elendir2am

All this suggestions about new class like bard, monk or ranger don't reflect, that class of ESO work different way than in other games.
When you switch on skill tooltip, it will recommend you some mix of class, weapon and other skills. This combination is what reflect class from other games.
Ranger is warden with bow and animal tree skills. Bard would be stam DD version of some class with a lot of group buff skills.

New class could be some mind oriented spellcaster.
Stam variant DD with medium armor, bow and DW would be bard.
Mind support skills with resto staff skills would be healer, who could be called psychologist
Mind breaker would be magicka DD who would use offensive mind spells.
Monk could use mind spells to buff or heal himself and buff group as mind tank.
One class tree could focus on clarity of your own mind, second on supporting mind power of you and your allies and last would be about harming mind of your enemies.

New ESO class need to be mix of 4 different class, which share some basis.

AinSoph

Honestly, they could just make a 3rd morph for every skill and that will suffice.

JD2013

Honestly? I don't think a new class is needed. It will just be the same overpower then nerf that we have seen and very little repeatable content.

Spellcrafting
New skill lines
New weapon type

These would do a lot more for the health of the game than a new class.

fizzylu

Yeah no, classes have never been ESO's strong point.... so I find it hard to see them as the way to draw in new players or bring back old ones. I and many people I know would much rather they add more skill lines or expand upon the ones that already exist. I've always wanted to see them add more mage and fighter guild abilities. Also find it a huge waste that the thieves guild and dark brotherhood are limited to passives. ZOS has so much to work with, but they don't and I'm honestly tired of them shoving all these really cool abilities into proc sets. And I'd even take new weapons before another class. Like more proper magicka based weapons and staffs really need a rework period.... but a new class? I'll pass haha

Kingsindarkness

Fix the ones we have first...

For example more animals for the warden besides that dumb bear...

fizzylu

Kingsindarkness wrote: »

Fix the ones we have first...

For example more animals for the warden besides that dumb bear...

Oo, yes. Same for sorcerer. If you force me to use pets, allow me to have variety in what my pets look like and not be tortured by the presence of my own twilight matriarch.

NotaDaedraWorshipper

meekmiko wrote: »

Pugilist/Brawler/Monk/Fighter
Whatever else you wanna call an unarmed class, plz.

I wanna punch stuff. 🥊

Like this is what I fear would happen if a new class was added. A skill, such as unarmed for example, will be the main thing of the class, and no one else. Unarmed should be a weapon skill all classes should be able to do.

Same as I want no staff spell casting. Which is something all classes should have access to.

Kingsindarkness wrote: »

Fix the ones we have first...

For example more animals for the warden besides that dumb bear...

And this. Instead of giving us new looks on harvesting resources and recall and who knows what else, how about giving new looks for sorcerers and wardens? Sorcerers pets are severely outdated look-wise, with horrendous looking texture and colour, that became even more obvious when mob scamps, clanfears etc got updated ones. Give us updated looks of the old ones, and give us optional looks to them of other daedra.

Funny how we have class abilities like that and others which we want changed or options for, then ZOS goes and change things like Templar jabs, Duel Wield Flurry, and add optional look for harvesting.

Pixiepumpkin

I would love new weapons, especially for casters. Maybe a spell dagger, or hand weaving of spells using books as the weapon. A book weapon would be super cool.

I'd also like a witch hunter

fizzylu

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

And this. Instead of giving us new looks on harvesting resources and recall and who knows what else, how about giving new looks for sorcerers and wardens? Sorcerers pets are severely outdated look-wise, with horrendous looking texture and colour, that became even more obvious when mob scamps, clanfears etc got updated ones. Give us updated looks of the old ones, and give us optional looks to them of other daedra.

Funny how we have class abilities like that and others which we want changed or options for, then ZOS goes and change things like Templar jabs, Duel Wield Flurry, and add optional look for harvesting.

Are you kidding me? My DREAM has been for my recall to be green instead of purple and to have magic leaves appear out of my wood chopping axe. They are everything I have ever wanted from ESO.
haha but no, seriously.... it is very odd that they changed things nobody asked for, but ignore the pleas they've been getting for years. I've hated my sorcerer pets since I first started played one. I actually didn't even use them for like two years until I had to once Greymoor hit thanks to "balancing and meta" changes. It's extra funny because I love pets in other MMOs I play. My elementals in GW2, my hunter pets in WoW, my summons in FFXIV.... but sorcerer pets? No. I would stomp out my own twilight matriarch if I could. And while they're at it.... give them more health. There's nothing like your class heal being unusable because someone literally killed it and as much as I love seeing her die, I need my main self heal at times.

Anhedonie

Didn't they say it's not possible to add new classes anymore or something like that?

Hamfast

To expand this a tad bit, asking for a new class is all well and good, but each class has 3 skill lines, so instead of asking for a "Bard", add the 3 skill lines as well... for example:
Bard
Skill line 1 (DPS) has skills where the "Songs" can cause damage like a jarring note, cutting words or vicious mockery
Skill line 2 (Support) a Song of healing, song of protection, song of valor
Skill line 3 (Control) Frightful visage (fear), Stunning Shout (Stun) clumsy call (weaken enemy)
But what weapons would this bard be using? Shouts, jeers and songs would all have to be a Capela because there are no instruments to fill your weapon slots and those slots will need to be filled.

Monks would be a problem here, there is nothing to fill a weapon slot if you are using your hands and feet and a "Monk weapon" would be more a new weapon line then a class skill line... and would need something in your hand to fill that gear slot... brass knuckles for example. or perhaps "X" Knuckles where x is the material used.

TaSheen

Hamfast wrote: »

To expand this a tad bit, asking for a new class is all well and good, but each class has 3 skill lines, so instead of asking for a "Bard", add the 3 skill lines as well... for example:
Bard
Skill line 1 (DPS) has skills where the "Songs" can cause damage like a jarring note, cutting words or vicious mockery
Skill line 2 (Support) a Song of healing, song of protection, song of valor
Skill line 3 (Control) Frightful visage (fear), Stunning Shout (Stun) clumsy call (weaken enemy)
But what weapons would this bard be using? Shouts, jeers and songs would all have to be a Capela because there are no instruments to fill your weapon slots and those slots will need to be filled.

Monks would be a problem here, there is nothing to fill a weapon slot if you are using your hands and feet and a "Monk weapon" would be more a new weapon line then a class skill line... and would need something in your hand to fill that gear slot... brass knuckles for example. or perhaps "X" Knuckles where x is the material used.

That's.... REALLY good! Make it so, please ZOS!

fizzylu

Anhedonie wrote: »

Didn't they say it's not possible to add new classes anymore or something like that?

Well, if we're going to go in that direction.... they say they can't do a lot of things haha but it's not really a matter of it being "not possible", but rather that ESO is a rickety game that is apparently falling apart from the inside out and ZOS either cannot or will not fix it.... "why" remains to be the real question and I have my own thoughts as to why we don't actually get content we ask for, but don't want to get snipped for "speculation" or "conspiracy theories" so I'll keep that to myself here at least. Meanwhile though.... games like WoW and FFXIV are constantly getting work done to them to make sure the games are stable, smooth, and able to keep up with new content. I guess we'll get our real answers sometime next year since ZOS has been claiming to be working on getting the game to a better state performance wise.... but I know they've said that before too so who really knows. It's a wait and see situation.... or for the people who've lost all faith, they're just playing other MMOs.

meekmiko

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

meekmiko wrote: »

Pugilist/Brawler/Monk/Fighter
Whatever else you wanna call an unarmed class, plz.

I wanna punch stuff. 🥊

Like this is what I fear would happen if a new class was added. A skill, such as unarmed for example, will be the main thing of the class, and no one else. Unarmed should be a weapon skill all classes should be able to do.

Same as I want no staff spell casting. Which is something all classes should have access to.

I'm not picky about this whatsoever. I mean I'd settle for a gosh darn "Unarmed" skill line. Any Class could literally use it at that point. Just lemme puuuunch.

Kitziboo

I would prefer a pocket Watcher for my Sorcs and a wolf option for Wardens.

LordRukia

New class, fine. I'd prefer new skill lines or weapons for my existing class. WoW released a new class , but I am not interested at all. Its the new talents that make me want to play, new builds etc. I wasn't and still am not interested in playing necro or warden. If you ask me all the archetypes are covered even if its not in the way we want. The rest can be put in through skill lines and redesigning some stuff like the awkward design of bow which could be made a lot more fluid.

I think the warden fits perfectly as a ranger with pet, they're all nature-y and stuff.

Snamyap

You'd still play the same content you've been playing with the current classes. The novelty will wear off and then it's just the same old same old.

Edit: and with ZOS's crusade against class identity you'd just get the same formulaic skills with a different animation.

Mesite

A new skill line would be a bit boring. How many people use the Psijic? I only scry because I have to if I need mythical items. I don't find that fun. I would prefer a new class with new animations

LikiLoki

I want an alchemist. We have already seen how the enemies of the alchemists throw bottles of different types. add a cloud of gases, poisoning, hallucinations with false goals.

Lumenn

Mesite wrote: »

A new skill line would be a bit boring. How many people use the Psijic? I only scry because I have to if I need mythical items. I don't find that fun. I would prefer a new class with new animations

This. We already got a card game, and as stated new skill lines before. I want something more than taking an easy/cheap way out with one random skill line as the new "feature" and a "we're listening to the people". Give us a monk class, with just a TOUCH of lore in their story if it's not too much trouble.

DMuehlhausen

Why so we have more classes that use the exact gear setups and 9 of 10 same skills. Sounds exciting..now if they had story lines for the classes like SWTOR did fine who cares if they all feel and look the same, but here no not needed. You literally could remove classes and you wouldn't see a difference. Just need Tank , Healer, Damage classes and it would still be the exact same game.

Lumenn

DMuehlhausen wrote: »

Why so we have more classes that use the exact gear setups and 9 of 10 same skills. Sounds exciting..now if they had story lines for the classes like SWTOR did fine who cares if they all feel and look the same, but here no not needed. You literally could remove classes and you wouldn't see a difference. Just need Tank , Healer, Damage classes and it would still be the exact same game.

Actually pvp can be pretty creative with sets/builds. I find pve trial groups to be more stagnant yes. And the point would be to have a monk. Something many would enjoy. If it's not your cup of tea then cool, don't play it. But even after all these years I'd be willing to take a monk through the story. From the requests over the years I'd bet others would too.

As for removing classes, we've asked for that as well. New skill lines would be a bit more beneficial imo in that case. While possible, I'd be surprised if zos went that way.

DMuehlhausen

Lumenn wrote: »

DMuehlhausen wrote: »

Why so we have more classes that use the exact gear setups and 9 of 10 same skills. Sounds exciting..now if they had story lines for the classes like SWTOR did fine who cares if they all feel and look the same, but here no not needed. You literally could remove classes and you wouldn't see a difference. Just need Tank , Healer, Damage classes and it would still be the exact same game.

Actually pvp can be pretty creative with sets/builds. I find pve trial groups to be more stagnant yes. And the point would be to have a monk. Something many would enjoy. If it's not your cup of tea then cool, don't play it. But even after all these years I'd be willing to take a monk through the story. From the requests over the years I'd bet others would too.

As for removing classes, we've asked for that as well. New skill lines would be a bit more beneficial imo in that case. While possible, I'd be surprised if zos went that way.

PvP might have creative builds, but PvP is a mini game tact onto the game at best. So decisions will or should never be made based on PvP. When they are the entire game gets worse.

Lumenn

DMuehlhausen wrote: »

Lumenn wrote: »

DMuehlhausen wrote: »

Why so we have more classes that use the exact gear setups and 9 of 10 same skills. Sounds exciting..now if they had story lines for the classes like SWTOR did fine who cares if they all feel and look the same, but here no not needed. You literally could remove classes and you wouldn't see a difference. Just need Tank , Healer, Damage classes and it would still be the exact same game.

Actually pvp can be pretty creative with sets/builds. I find pve trial groups to be more stagnant yes. And the point would be to have a monk. Something many would enjoy. If it's not your cup of tea then cool, don't play it. But even after all these years I'd be willing to take a monk through the story. From the requests over the years I'd bet others would too.

As for removing classes, we've asked for that as well. New skill lines would be a bit more beneficial imo in that case. While possible, I'd be surprised if zos went that way.

PvP might have creative builds, but PvP is a mini game tact onto the game at best. So decisions will or should never be made based on PvP. When they are the entire game gets worse.

Well now I'm in an awkward position of defending pvp when I've quit it in disgust several times over the years. It's an aspect many enjoy, and we'll just say it's your opinion that it's a mini game as for others it's the most enjoyable part. Pve can be creative in builds too as many of us enjoy theory crafting. It's only when you're in top rigid guilds that everyone runs the same sets rather than use their imagination.

KilianDermoth

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washbern

Why do you need a new class? So you can ha e the same build, do the same things as before but this time in slightly different hue?