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[SPOILER] A poll about the consequences of 2022 High Isle Lore

Scaletho
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Considering ESO's High Isle chapter and subsequent stories, a peace talk between High King Emeric, Queen Ayrenn Arana Aldmeri and Jorunn the Skald-King(Prince Irnskar) will happen after the end of 2022 Breton lore.

I'm NOT saying that this will really happen but for the sake of my curiosity about ESO players opinion, would you agree with the possibility of an end of 3 Banners War, a complete overhaul of Cyrodiil map and another type of PvP war there?

The poll's question is hidden as SPOILER (click the button above) for it is related with the end of 2022 Breton Lore.

You can give your opinion. Or trash me about the absurdity of this poll, if you want. And no, I don't have a clear idea about which kind of war will be created.
Edited by Scaletho on November 7, 2022 11:47PM

[SPOILER] A poll about the consequences of 2022 High Isle Lore 114 votes

Yes.
63%
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No.
36%
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  • Supreme_Atromancer
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    I'd love to see the story of the 3BW progress. It feels very dated, now.

    Given that the game is set during the Interregnum, it makes sense for some sort of conflict to remain, though. New alliances and new PvP locations would be pretty cool.
  • SkaraMinoc
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    Yes.
    I want something new and exciting for PvP.
    PC NA
  • SilverBride
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    What is the question?
    PCNA
  • Wing
    Wing
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    Yes.
    lotro monster play

    IC vs ALL

    my dream
    ESO player since beta.
    full time subscriber.
    PC NA
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    DK one trick
  • Amottica
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    robwolf666 wrote: »
    Yes, I would like the peace talks to succeed. That way, since there would be no war in Cyrodiil, it could be turned into a normal PvE zone with a new story. Then PvP could be given it's own separate game, so updates for the two types of game no longer cause problems for each other.

    Sorry but that will never happen. Besides BGs having nothing to do with the three banner war, PvP will not be spun off into a separate game. Theme park MMORPGs include PvP as one of the varied activities for us to enjoy.
  • RedTalon
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    Yes.
    Could see it happening but sill will be a pvp version of it since they are not going to remove skill lines to fit a more pve one

    Even if the three banner wars end could see another set up happening where a bunch of generals break off from their alliances and become the warlords we hear about in old lore before the coming of Talos and tha thje had to fight, so they could still do a three way war just different maybe work in each warlord being backed by a cult of a prince and so on

    Just my thoughts on the matter, sorry for typos and errors
    Edited by RedTalon on November 7, 2022 7:42AM
  • LesserCircle
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    Yes.
    Please, anything new for PvP.
  • DinoZavr
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    The very idea of "play in any order" guarantees there are no consequences of 2022 High Isle Lore.
    Imagine a new character is transferred to High Isle, does the Chapter story, then Firesong and Epilogue quest and only after that visits the mainland and starts the Main quest and Guilds questlines and joins the Cyrodiil campaign. What do you think is supposed to change if High Isle questline IS completed at that time?
    PC EU
  • Grizzbeorn
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    I don't know.
      PC/NA Warden Main
    • fizzylu
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      Yes.
      At this point, I feel like the three banners war doesn't make sense.... and I'd just like to see Cyrodiil actually made better use of. I'd prefer to see them do some Cyrodiil style pvp the way GW2 does where it has it's own little instanced zone and not an actual huge chunk of the world map. FFXIV also does their faction pvp based around it being "training" haha I find it a bit odd, but I guess it works in the sense of keeping the different factions technically at peace yet still allowing pvp between them. ESO could also expand upon the different teams in battlegrounds. As of right now, I know nothing about the different teams haha so maybe giving them some more lore and having a separate faction you join for pvp could make for some interesting gameplay/progression if they did it right.
      Edited by fizzylu on November 7, 2022 1:00PM
    • deleted221205-002626
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      No.
      I dont think cyro needs an overhaul.. It does need any and all pve reasons to be there removed.. fishing, dungeons, gold vendor etc.. ANY reason to be there other than the pvp objective is what fills the pop cap and doesn't help your alliance at all!
      Edited by deleted221205-002626 on November 7, 2022 2:15PM
    • DinoZavr
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      @sinnereso.i Agree. What Cyro really needs the most are the performance upgrades.
      But i'd like Golden Kitty to stay. Some DLC dungeons are insanely hard (and a few are impossible) to solo.
      Also, what about Cyro skyshards? I'd prefer them to stay "as is", as PVE is already totally dominating and the "easy mode" is unhealthy for any MMO (imho).
      PC EU
    • Artim_X
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      No.
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      (AD) Artim X/Xirtām/Måtrix |PC/NA| Casual staff wielding vampire sorcerer/templar/arcanist
      Electric-Burn/Stun
      https://media.giphy.com/media/Av0zcKH3i2BkaY1GXW/giphy.gif/https://c.tenor.com/jQHdFftrgwMAAAAC/tenor.gif
      • Damage Dealing Build.
      • Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Inferno/Lightning Staff (infused/shock enchant), and Rage of the Ursauk jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused/flame/weapon damage enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
      • Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Lightning Flood, Twilight Tormentor (Twilight Matriarch for solo roleplay variant of build), and Power Overload.
      • Ability-Bar 2: Crushing Shock/Storm Pulsar, Streak, Flame/Shock Reach, Unstable Wall of Fire/Storms, Twilight Tormentor (Twilight Matriarch for solo roleplay variant of build) and Fiery/Thunderous Rage.
      Electric-Heal
      https://media.giphy.com/media/5ibGIHneWS6ek/giphy.gif
      • My Healer Build.
      • Gear: 5 Spell Power Cure (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (Charged/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/restoration staff (Powered with absorb magicka enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
      • Ability-Bar 1: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Blessing of Restoration, Energy Orb, Twilight Matriarch, and Replenishing Barrier.
      • Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Blockade of Storms, Twilight Matriarch, and Aggressive Horn.
      Electric-Ward
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      • My Meme Tank Build that uses high resistance and variety of wards.
      • Gear: 5 Brands of Imperium (All body pieces except Head and Shoulders, with Divine trait, and with Prismatic Defense Enchants), full Mother Ciannait's (1 light and 1 medium. Divines and Max Mag Enchant), and Combat Physician jewelry (arcane with Prismatic Recovery Enchants), CP restoration staff (Infused with hardening enchant), and CP ice staff (Infused with crusher enchant).
      • Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Bound Aegis, Deep Thoughts, Boundless Storm, Healing Ward, and Replenishing Barrier.
      • Ability-Bar 2: Silver Leash (Elemental Drain if healer isn't running it), Bound Aegis, Frost Clench, Blockade of Frost, Empowered Ward, and Temporal Guard.
      Electric-Vamp
      https://media.giphy.com/media/ukDQiYZzRAxMZKcK86/giphy.gif
      • Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
      • Gear: 5 Torug's Pact for regular and NoCP build/Oblivion's Foe for dot build (medium chest and body pieces light. All Impenetrable. Max Mag Enchants). Gaze of Sithis and 1 light Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton (light shoulders, and impenetrable with Max Mag Enchants). Knight Slayer/Pariah jewelry/Plaguebreak for dot build (arcane with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused with oblivion enchant for regular and noCP build/absorb magicka enchant and Sharpened for dot build. Sharpened for dot build)/restoration staff (infused with oblivion enchant regular and noCP build/absorb magicka enchant and Sharpened for dot build).
      • Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Boundless Storm, Soul Splitting Trap, Radiating Regeneration, Healing Ward, and Life Giver.
      • Ability-Bar 2: Drain Vigor (Elemental Susceptibility), Race Against Time, Rune Cage, Radiant Magelight, Empowered Ward, and Shatter Soul.
      Dawnfang
      https://media.tenor.com/ogWfvDdsqBIAAAAd/anime-black-clover.gif
      • My casual one bar heavy attack Templar build that only utilizes Aedric Spear abilities.
      • Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (Infused/shock enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both arcane with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring.
      • Ability-Bar 1: Puncturing Sweep, Aurora Javelin, Toppling Charge, Blazing Spear, Radiant Ward, and Crescent Sweep.
      Duskfang
      https://media.tenor.com/Jo8aG_ouy_oAAAAd/ac-odyssey.gif
      • Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
      • Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on head and everything else Magicka Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Max Health Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant/Stealth-Draining Poison IX), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both arcane with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Arcane with Spell Damage Enchant).
      • Ability-Bar 1:Radiant Oppression, Race Against Time, Aurora Javelin, Breath of Life, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver (Shatter Soul).
      PvE Starter Gear
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      • Gear: 5 Law of Julianos (heavy chest, gloves/belt light, and the rest can be light or 1 medium piece if you're not wearing medium anywhere else on your body. All in training if grinding for XP or divines), Armor of the Seducer or Magnus' Gift head, shoulder, and staves (light with 1 medium piece if you are not already wearing 1 medium Julianos piece. All in training or divines. The staves should be training or infused), and 3 purple Willpower Jewelry with Arcane trait (can be bought from trading guilds for relatively cheap.
      • Check tamrieltradecentre.com for the best deals if you're not using a price checking addon).
      Race
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      • High elf, since you will not have issues with sustain, but other mag based races are also fine so this is more of a personal choice.
      Mundus Stones
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      • PvP: The Lover for penetration when playing a sorc or temp.
      • PvE Healing/Damage: The Thief for decent crit rate.
      • PvE Tanking: The Lady to get close to resistance cap.
      Current Champion Points
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      • DPS Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Exploiter, Weapons Expert, Biting Aura, Thaumaturge, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
      • Healer Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Hope Infusion, Weapon's Expert, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
      • Tanky Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Ironclad, Enduring Resolve, Reinforced, Duelist's Rebuff, Bastion, Ward Master, Rejuvenation, Fortified.
      • PvP Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, Occult Overload, Arcane Supremacy, Bastion, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
      • PvE Temp: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Fighting Finesse, Master-at-Arms, Weapons Expert, Biting Aura, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
      • PvP Temp: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, From the Brink, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
      Favorite Foods and Potions
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      • Parse Food for PvE:(DPS) Ghastly Eye Bowl (increases Max Magicka by 4592 and Magicka Recovery by 459 for 2 hours).
      • Gold/Purple Food for Sorc PvP and Meme Tanking:(PvP) Clockwork Citrus Filet (increases Max Health by 3326, Health Recovery by 406 [useful if stage 1 vampire], Max Magicka by 3080, and Magicka Recovery by 338 for 2 hours). Witchmother's Potent Brew (Increase Max Magicka by 2856, Max Health by 3094, and Magicka Recovery by 315 for 2 hours.
      • Trash Potions when feeling cheap: Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
      • Crafted Potions: Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy on my Sorc, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking). My templar will mostly use Essence of Health (Tri-Stat Potion) Ingredients: (Mountain Flower, Columbine, and Bugloss).
    • VaranisArano
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      No.
      What is the question?

      Without High Isle spoilers:

      "would you agree with the possibility of an end of 3 Banners War, a complete overhaul of Cyrodiil map and another type of PvP war there?"
      Edited by VaranisArano on November 7, 2022 4:48PM
    • Dr_Con
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      robwolf666 wrote: »
      Yes, I would like the peace talks to succeed. That way, since there would be no war in Cyrodiil, it could be turned into a normal PvE zone with a new story. Then PvP could be given it's own separate game, so updates for the two types of game no longer cause problems for each other.

      I disagree and think this would kill most of the buzz this game has. Many of us spend more than 50% of or time PVE'ing but PVP is what draws people in, even if it's broken. There's also Imperial City what are you supposed to do with that? Refund everyone a DLC that you wound up giving to everyone for free?

      The storyboarding got people talking about an end to the war, the storyboarding can get them out of people constantly bringing this up each week.

      Let the red-headed girl from Riften be a cover story for Jorun's absence, have him in meetings with his generals and spies who learned of AD and DC seeking foreign aid/technology from across the sea to further the war and expand the playable map to multiple continents.

      Let there be no room for for this silly thing we call peace.
    • Katheriah
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      No.
      robwolf666 wrote: »
      Yes, I would like the peace talks to succeed. That way, since there would be no war in Cyrodiil, it could be turned into a normal PvE zone with a new story. Then PvP could be given it's own separate game, so updates for the two types of game no longer cause problems for each other.

      Ideas like this is the reason I vote 'NO'

      Changes to PvP? Yes. Fixing PvP? YES!
      Cyro as a PvE zone? By the gods, please, no. Don't give them ideas like that.
    • ZOS_Icy
      ZOS_Icy
      mod
      Greetings,

      This thread has been moved to the Lore section, as it is better suited there.

      Thank you for your understanding.
      Staff Post
    • chessalavakia_ESO
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      Lore Wise:
      I'd like to see the rulers finding out they don't have the control to fully end the war and the the Ascendant Order is even more dangerous with the leadership dead.

      Gameplay Wise:

      I think it's really messy. Cyrodiil has a very dedicated population core population. It's the only part of the game I play where I regularly see significant numbers of people above my CP level. However, is designed for coordinated group slanted play, high levels of optimization in gearing, and slanted towards winner take all. That isn't really a great match for ESO's current population.

      So, you get to pick between keeping the status quo, continue following the current design that doesn't really work well for most people but does work relatively well for some people that have been enjoying it for years, or you can take a different approach and hope it works better and basically ruin a section of the game that a small number of people love.

      Personally, I'd lean towards having the next story not touch on the war and hope that either Cyrodiil's numbers bounce back enough to clearly justify further investment or Cyrodiil's numbers die down enough to reduce the resistance to taking another path.
    • KingArthasMenethil
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      No.
      There is no consequences. The "Play in any order" has made sure of that nothing can advance and nothing can change.
      Characters we've met before cannot act like they've changed in the past because the quest writing must at the very least treat them as though you've never done their quests.
      EU 2000+ CP
      Characters
      Gaius Sulla 50 Cyrodiil DragonKnight.
      Livia Sulla 50 Cyrodiil Nightblade.
      Divayth-Fyr 50 Dunmer Sorcerer.
      Ragnar Shatter-Shield 50 Nord Dragonknight.
      Selvia Sulla 50 Cyrodiil Templar.
      Attrebus Mede 50 Cyrodiil Warden.
      Zirath Urivith 50 Dunmer Dragonknight.
      Dame Edwinna Gelas 50 Breton Dragonknight.
      Agrippina Tharn 50 Cyrodiil Necromancer.
      Bedal Dren 50 Dunmer Dragonknight.
    • Scaletho
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      What is the question?

      The question is hidden as "spoiler".
    • deleted221205-002626
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      No.
      DinoZavr wrote: »
      @sinnereso.i Agree. What Cyro really needs the most are the performance upgrades.
      But i'd like Golden Kitty to stay. Some DLC dungeons are insanely hard (and a few are impossible) to solo.
      Also, what about Cyro skyshards? I'd prefer them to stay "as is", as PVE is already totally dominating and the "easy mode" is unhealthy for any MMO (imho).

      The main issue with the golden kitty is it arrives 8pm EST during primetime on the busiest night of the week. 1/2 to 3/4 of the queue is literally people coming for vendor and not even pvp! You enjoy waiting an hour to get in for no reason at all?
    • Elsonso
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      No.
      I don't think ZOS is desperate enough to end the war. Yet.

      If ZOS leaves it alone, it will just continue to simmer until Tiber Septim comes along.
      PC NA/EU: @Elsonso
      XBox NA: @ElsonsoJannus
      X/Twitter: ElsonsoJannus
    • tsaescishoeshiner
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      No.
      No, because practically all the zones currently refer to Three Banners War in some way, even if the overarching plot in that zone doesn't involve it.

      Cyrodiil's quests and zone could be rewritten, but it's a huge zone and AvAvA is a huge system, so I'm not 100% sure how the development time on that would be justified if it wasn't sold as a Chapter or something.
      PC-NA
      in-game: @tsaescishoeshiner
    • TheGent
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      I wish choice and consequence played a bigger role in this game. I wish that every RPG had C&C at there core. Like Dragon Age: Origins
      ESO: @The.Gent
      I really need a questing friend. Playing solo is lonely and boring (i am in multiple guilds too)

    • Vrienda
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      Yes.
      I’d love to see Cyrodiil be remastered as a PvE zone. PvP can stay as it is with us all pretending it’s a historical retelling.

      I mostly just want the actual plot to move forward and not be stuck in 582 forever.
      Desperate for Roleplaying servers to bring open world non-organised RP to Elder Scrolls Online. Please ZOS.
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