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Stop Pushing Broken Updates to Live!

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AlekWithK
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I would have thought this goes without saying, ZOS, but if the update you're about to push to live contains game breaking bugs and disables addons and features that it was intended to implement...DON'T PUBLISH IT!

It is incredibly frustrating that half of the updates we've gotten this year have been absolute disasters. What is going on at ZOS HQ? Did the Dev team walk out? It's not just that you post broken patches, you post broken patches where the exact features you're trying to add to the game don't work (i.e. hiding pets causing crashes). I do not understand how a multi-million dollar company struggles with this. In the Firesong PTS patch the DK bug was known about, the encounter-log bug was known about, the block bug was known about, and yet the patch went live.

DELAY YOUR UPDATES IF THEY'RE BROKEN! I promise there will be less pissed off players who will feel more like y'all give a damn about this game if you say "hey, we have to delay the release of U36 because of some bugs we're fixing" rather than force it through, take the server down for maintenance multiple times after the initial patch, and ultimately hit us with a "well we're working on fixing all these bugs that have made aspects of the game borderline unplayable. You'll hear from us...maybe...maybe not." I don't think I need to point out how disrespectful that is to the player base.

It's also no secret that most of these bugs are PvE related (no logging, DK bug [since fixed], block bug,). We get it, it has been painfully obvious for the last year or more that you do not care AT ALL about the end game PvE community, but WE do care about this game. It would be nice to feel some semblance of appreciation for that.

Please just...stop forcing updates that are broken and full of bugs. Take the required amount of time to get them right (or mostly right, its game dev, of course it won't be perfect), rather than whatever these half baked attempts have been that leave the player base confused and frustrated.

It is unacceptable for a company of your size working on a game of this size to have such poor quality control and standards.
  • Sarannah
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    Many players are having no issues at all, judging by how many players I see in game. And ZOS fixed the major gamebreaking bugs right away, with the second and third maintenance. The block bug is annoying, but not gamebreaking. And yes, the hiding pets in town, a new feature, isn't working correctly. But it is new, so that is kind of expected! Turn it off for now, and you'll be fine. Bugs are unexpected, and can happen with even the smallest updates.

    Add-ons(and programs like process hacker) are third party programs, you can't seriously expect ZOS to take those into account. Those third party programs are a layer on top of the game, for which ZOS isn't responsible. The game and servers are running great at the moment, if third party software changes that, that is on the user who uses those. There is always a risk in using those.

    Things aren't as bad as they seem, except for those players who are having crash issues. Which I hope ZOS solves soon. Yet I do sort of agree with you, if there are such major issues it is better for ZOS to release the update a few days or a week later. But as this is an MMO I get why ZOS does it this way, and I am glad ZOS fixes everything this fast.
  • Sythen88411
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    There may be bugs BUT HAVE YOU SEEN ALL TBE COOL STUFF IN THE CROWN STORE?!?!?!?!
  • Uvi_AUT
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    Its NOT the Addons. I made a clean new install and it still crashes to desktop without an errormessage.

    Best I can come up with is: The more people are around you the more likely it is the game crashes.
    Speculative: The more people with pets and costumes are around the faster the game crashes.

    Thats not saying the game doesnt crash even in housingareas. It does. But less frequently.
    Registered since 2014, Customer Service lost my Forum-Account and can't find it.....
  • Trobaka
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    Sarannah wrote: »
    ... The game and servers are running great at the moment ...

    I am pretty sure most players on PC EU, Xbox NA, Xbox EU, Playstation NA and Playstation EU would not agree with this. Even PC NA players are reporting that things are getting worse again. But i am glad everything works great for you. People have different expectations. I know someone who played egoshooters with almost a second input delay/controller lag because of their tv settings. He always got killed first, had trouble hitting anything and could not even run in a straight line, but he was happy and did not know better. Until someone else tried to play on his setup at a birthday party and noticed that there was something wrong. Yes, some players can live with the state of the game, but when you need good performance for PvP fights or PVE hardmodes, it is not easy to ignore all the problems.
  • AlekWithK
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    Sarannah wrote: »
    But it is new, so that is kind of expected!

    That is an extreme amount of copium. I play many different games and no other game experiences game breaking bugs this often with new updates. Yes, small bugs are always going to crop up, but not bugs that ruin the experience for a group of players, that were KNOWN about before the update went live.

    Also, I can tell you're not much of a PvE'er because the block bug is absolutely damning to end game PvE. I've already watched a long term Planesbreaker group who got 36/36 with 2% left on Xalv the week prior suspend their core until its fixed. It's a problem. The encounter log bug is a huge issue for end game PvE too as logs are used and referenced for every aspect of play.

    Like I said in my post, most of ZOS' critical bugs hit the PvE community hardest, and its been proven that they don't care much about this group. It doesn't help that most non PvE players don't care either, and instead spend their time buried in stockholm syndrome believing that it's ok for ZOS to drop the ball this badly this often and saying "well the bugs don't affect me so they must not be as bad as you're saying!"

  • Artim_X
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    We are the QA team... SMFH.
    (AD) Artim X/Xirtām/Måtrix |PC/NA| Casual staff wielding vampire sorcerer/templar/arcanist
    Electric-Stun
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    • Roleplay Damage Dealing Build.
    • Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (infused/shock enchant), and Kinras's jewelry (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused/flame/weapon damage enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
    • Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Lightning Flood, Shocking Soul (Shock damage, Class Mastery Signature Script, and Empower), and Power Overload.
    • Ability-Bar 2: Storm Pulsar, Streak, Shock Reach, Unstable Wall of Storms, Shocking Burst (Shock Damage, remove 1 negative effect, and interrupt) and Thunderous Rage.
      Solo: Use Kinras's chest, replace Mora with Ring of the Pale Order, and use a heavy Slimcraw piece for max critical.
    Electric-Pets
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    • Stress free one bar pet build .
    • Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants. No chest piece), 1 medium Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, medium, Max Mag Enchants), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant ring and necklace (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant), Oakensoul ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)
    • Ability-Bar: Daedric Prey, Summon Volatile Familiar, Bound Armaments, Unstable Wall of Storms, Summon Twilight Matriarch, and Greater storm Atronach.
    Electric-Heal
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    • My Healer Build.
    • Gear: 5 Spell Power Cure (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (Charged/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/restoration staff (Powered with absorb magicka enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
    • Ability-Bar 1: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Blessing of Restoration, Energy Orb, Twilight Matriarch, and Replenishing Barrier.
    • Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Blockade of Storms, Twilight Matriarch, and Aggressive Horn.
    Electric-Ward
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    • My Meme Tank Build that uses high resistance and variety of wards.
    • Gear: 5 Brands of Imperium (All body pieces except Head and Shoulders, with Divine trait, and with Prismatic Defense Enchants), full Iceheart (1 light and 1 medium. Divines and Prismatic Enchant), and Combat Physician jewelry (bloodthirsty with Prismatic Recovery Enchants), Combat Physician restoration staff (Infused with hardening enchant), and combat physician ice staff (Infused with crusher enchant).
    • Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Bound Aegis, Deep Thoughts, Boundless Storm, Healing Ward, and Replenishing Barrier.
    • Ability-Bar 2: Silver Leash (Elemental Drain if healer isn't running it), Bound Aegis, Frost Clench, Blockade of Frost, Empowered Ward, and Temporal Guard.
    Electric-Vamp
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    • Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
    • Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (medium chest and body pieces light. All Impenetrable with Prismatic Enchants). Gaze of Sithis and 1 light Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton (light shoulders, and impenetrable with Prismtaic Enchants). Knight Slayer (Swift with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused with oblivion enchant)/restoration staff (infused with oblivion enchant).
    • Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Boundless Storm, Soul Splitting Trap, Radiating Regeneration, Healing Ward, and Life Giver.
    • Ability-Bar 2: Drain Vigor (Elemental Susceptibility), Race Against Time, Rune Cage, Radiant Magelight, Regenerative Ward, and Shatter Soul.
    Dawnfang
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    • My casual one bar heavy attack Templar build that primarily utilizes Aedric Spear abilities.
    • Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
    • Ability-Bar 1: Puncturing Sweep, Aurora Javelin, Toppling Charge, Blazing Spear, Radiant Ward/Breath of life, and Crescent Sweep.
    Duskfang
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    • Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
    • Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
    • Ability-Bar 1: Radiant Oppression, Race Against Time, Aurora Javelin, Breath of Life, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
    Eye of the Queen
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    • My casual one bar heavy attack Arcanist build that primarily utilizes Herald of the Tome abilities.
    • Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
    • Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Pragmatic Fatecarver, Cephaliarch's Flail, Rune of Displacement, Inspired Scholarship/Evolving Runemend, and The Languid Eye.
    Eye of the King
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    • Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
    • Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
    • Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Race Against Time, Rune of Uncanny Adoration, Evolving Runemend, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
    PvE Starter Gear
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    • Gear: 5 Law of Julianos (heavy chest, gloves/belt light, and the rest can be light or 1 medium piece if you're not wearing medium anywhere else on your body. All in training if grinding for XP or divines), Armor of the Seducer or Magnus' Gift head, shoulder, and staves (light with 1 medium piece if you are not already wearing 1 medium Julianos piece. All in training or divines. The staves should be training or infused), and 3 purple Willpower Jewelry with Arcane trait (can be bought from trading guilds for relatively cheap.
    • Check tamrieltradecentre.com for the best deals if you're not using a price checking addon).
    Race
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    • High elf, since you will not have issues with sustain, but other mag based races are also fine so this is more of a personal choice.
    Mundus Stones
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    • PvP: The Steed for speed. Gotta go fast!
    • PvE Healing/Damage: The Thief for decent crit rate.
    • PvE Tanking: The Lady to get close to resistance cap.
    Current Champion Points
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    • DPS: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Exploiter, Weapons Expert, Fighting Finesse, Master-at-Arms, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
    • Healer Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Hope Infusion, Weapon's Expert, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
    • Tanky Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Ironclad, Enduring Resolve, Reinforced, Duelist's Rebuff, Bastion, Ward Master, Rejuvenation, Fortified.
    • PvP Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, Occult Overload, Arcane Supremacy, Bastion, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
    • PvP Temp/Arcanist: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, From the Brink, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
    Favorite Foods and Potions
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    • Parse Food for PvE:(DPS) Ghastly Eye Bowl (increases Max Magicka by 4592 and Magicka Recovery by 459 for 2 hours).
    • Gold/Purple Food for Sorc PvP and Meme Tanking:(PvP) Clockwork Citrus Filet (increases Max Health by 3326, Health Recovery by 406 [useful if stage 1 vampire], Max Magicka by 3080, and Magicka Recovery by 338 for 2 hours). Witchmother's Potent Brew (Increase Max Magicka by 2856, Max Health by 3094, and Magicka Recovery by 315 for 2 hours.
    • Trash Potions when feeling cheap: Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
    • Crafted Potions: Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy on my Sorc, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking). My templar/arcanist will mostly use Essence of Health (Tri-Stat Potion) Ingredients: (Mountain Flower, Columbine, and Bugloss).
  • CrashTest
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    Sarannah wrote: »
    The block bug is annoying, but not gamebreaking.
    No. It fully is game breaking in endgame.
  • Kiralyn2000
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    Sythen88411 wrote: »
    There may be bugs BUT HAVE YOU SEEN ALL TBE COOL STUFF IN THE CROWN STORE?!?!?!?!

    No, I was busy playing the game. /shrug
  • Carcamongus
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    Something changed this year. There were serious problems with 3 of the 4 new content released and the one that didn't have awful issues was the one that indroduced the controvertial U35. Of course some problems are inevitably going to make it live, but isn't the PTS meant to detect major issues before the content's official release? While I wouldn't go so far as to accuse the devs of not caring about PvErs, I do agree delaying a release to fix defects is preferrable to going ahead with a mess. Players can get tired of so many repeated problems and, presuming more are to follow, they might just play less or not at all. That should be taken into consideration.
    Imperial DK and Necro tank. PC/NA
    "Nothing is so bad that it can't get any worse." (Brazilian saying)
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