ZOS ... What the actual flippity flapjacks were you guys thinking with Druid King Deck????

Lazurynae

I have 35 and will go out next hand. Guy has 6 prestige. 6. count them 6. He plays a few cards...he has 16 coins, draws a Druid King card, there is another under it, a patron. and another, and another, and a draw card, and a patron turn, flipping over so fast I can't see [snip] is happening...until he goes out with 62. SIXTY-TWO! HE WENT FROM SIX to SIXTY-TWO... I loved this card game, I loved this game, right up until I don't. Sheesh...

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SilverBride

This is one I of the reasons I'm going to stop competitive matches, second only to the scoring system.

I watch what cards my opponents purchase and they can be going along gaining a few power a hand until they are about to lose. Then they pull out what my friend and I call a "miracle hand" and generate a huge amount of power... but from where? If they had these cards all along they would have been generating a lot more throughout the game.

Something isn't right.

Lazurynae

SilverBride wrote: »

This is one I of the reasons I'm going to stop competitive matches, second only to the scoring system.

I watch what cards my opponents purchase and they can be going along gaining a few power a hand until they are about to lose. Then they pull out what my friend and I call a "miracle hand" and generate a huge amount of power... but from where? If they had these cards all along they would have been generating a lot more throughout the game.

Something isn't right.

I really don't like feeling this angry, If the game doesn't bring me joy... I've been here since day 1, and I'm on the verge of cancelling both accounts.

SilverBride

Lazurynae wrote: »

I really don't like feeling this angry, If the game doesn't bring me joy... I've been here since day 1, and I'm on the verge of cancelling both accounts.

I won't let this make me leave a game I otherwise enjoy. I'd just like to enjoy ToT without all the frustration. Losing I can accept but ridiculous hands like the one you described should never happen.

spartaxoxo

As someone who often builds towards "ridiculous hands"...I was working on something like that all along. I always had the cards, I carefully did things to increase the odds they would happen (such as getting rid of cards that don't suit those hands through the blue, yellow, and black decks) and then waited for it to go off. I can't speak to the Druid deck, but you have to be really pay attention to what your opponent is buying to see what big combos might be coming (e.g. with the crow deck) as a general rule of TOT.

SilverBride

Queues are getting longer because less people are playing and things like this are why.

tsaescishoeshiner

Currently, I'm thinking that Pelin, Orgnum, and to a lesser extent Rajhin are the best picks to prevent a bursty Druid game. Each game is so different obviously, but the other 5 patrons seem to synergize with Druid cards more.

WitchyKiki

SilverBride wrote: »

Queues are getting longer because less people are playing and things like this are why.

I noticed the long queues, but I also think its because people are playing the dlc.

NeKryXe

Well... people were complaining about the long duration of the game, now it's fixed. When combining the Druid King with Psijic most matches last less than 5 minutes. Some times one of the players don't even need to play.

SilverBride

I've found that the Druid King games tend to drag on. Maybe it's because players are taking more time to study the cards but they've been tedious and boring more often than not.

Personofsecrets

SilverBride wrote: »

I've found that the Druid King games tend to drag on. Maybe it's because players are taking more time to study the cards but they've been tedious and boring more often than not.

It's interesting that the Druid King patron can be abused by constantly denying the opponent power cards that would get the game moving via replacing them when they do show up in the tavern.

Katheriah

SilverBride wrote: »

I've found that the Druid King games tend to drag on. Maybe it's because players are taking more time to study the cards but they've been tedious and boring more often than not.

I've done some matches for achievements and jebuzz they take forever.

SilverBride

I hope there will be some tweaks coming now that they can see how it plays live.

Personofsecrets

@Lazurynae

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK8xjNs0mlM

SilverBride

I would have conceded way before it got to that point.

WitchyKiki

SilverBride wrote: »

I would have conceded way before it got to that point.

Yeah, i notice a lot of druid deck plays end up with the opponent conceding now. I mean... i'm not the one picking that patron but still.

spartaxoxo

Personofsecrets wrote: »

@Lazurynae

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK8xjNs0mlM

That seems pretty busted. I mean crow hands can get like that too at least, but at least those require combos. This rewards you regardless of what color card you're sending to the draw pile. It doesn't require synergy at all, just making use of the blue deck's scrying.

Personofsecrets

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Personofsecrets wrote: »

@Lazurynae

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK8xjNs0mlM

That seems pretty busted. I mean crow hands can get like that too at least, but at least those require combos. This rewards you regardless of what color card you're sending to the draw pile. It doesn't require synergy at all, just making use of the blue deck's scrying.

I even could have exceeded 80 score if I hadn't played so poorly, but this was my second game using the Druid King.

Druid King has basically 4 cards that are extremly good with the Psijic dump effects. I consider this to be a synergy, but it is sort of a brainless one. Just buy all Psijic cards all game long unless one of the 4 Druid King power cards is available, then probably buy that instead.

I would say "wow, I can't believe that TOT is already going that direction, but I've seen it happen so much, it's sort of a given now.

WitchyKiki

Personofsecrets wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Personofsecrets wrote: »

@Lazurynae

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK8xjNs0mlM

That seems pretty busted. I mean crow hands can get like that too at least, but at least those require combos. This rewards you regardless of what color card you're sending to the draw pile. It doesn't require synergy at all, just making use of the blue deck's scrying.

I even could have exceeded 80 score if I hadn't played so poorly, but this was my second game using the Druid King.

Druid King has basically 4 cards that are extremly good with the Psijic dump effects. I consider this to be a synergy, but it is sort of a brainless one. Just buy all Psijic cards all game long unless one of the 4 Druid King power cards is available, then probably buy that instead.

I would say "wow, I can't believe that TOT is already going that direction, but I've seen it happen so much, it's sort of a given now.

All of ESO is going into a brainless dump. Its almost as if the devs want to make this into WoW v. 2 but with a heavy cash shop.

Kappachi

Y'all know what's great about power creep in this game? Both players have access to that content even if you haven't unlocked it yet. If people play druid king vs you then you learn it and use it against them, within 2 games I understood it and was able to pull off crazy combos that defeat my opponent WHO SELECTED the deck themselves. I think the balance in this game doesn't need to be as crazily moderated as it is in other card games as it's never going to be pay-to-win because if a deck's in the game both players have equal access to it and equal access to make crazy combos. It's here, learn to enjoy it and learn all the combos yourself in order to best your opponent.

Personally, I love the flow and combo making potential of this deck, it reminds me of Yu-Gi-Oh! turns, it's crazy to even consider that a card game mechanic added to an mmorpg in an expansion would even come close but it really does feel like not only that tempo but that level of strategy when you get deeper into the game.

Personofsecrets

Kappachi wrote: »

Y'all know what's great about power creep in this game? Both players have access to that content even if you haven't unlocked it yet. If people play druid king vs you then you learn it and use it against them, within 2 games I understood it and was able to pull off crazy combos that defeat my opponent WHO SELECTED the deck themselves. I think the balance in this game doesn't need to be as crazily moderated as it is in other card games as it's never going to be pay-to-win because if a deck's in the game both players have equal access to it and equal access to make crazy combos. It's here, learn to enjoy it and learn all the combos yourself in order to best your opponent.

Personally, I love the flow and combo making potential of this deck, it reminds me of Yu-Gi-Oh! turns, it's crazy to even consider that a card game mechanic added to an mmorpg in an expansion would even come close but it really does feel like not only that tempo but that level of strategy when you get deeper into the game.

Reminding me of Yugioh is exactly why I don't like the Druid King. I'll stick to goat format!